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Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 30/07/2023 11:16:24There are known alternatives to that statement, depending on the context, like 1+1=10 or 1+1=1They are not alternatives, but entirely different mathematical statements expressed with the same symbols. Just like writing different statements with the same letters.
There are known alternatives to that statement, depending on the context, like 1+1=10 or 1+1=1
In practice, any assumption related to objective/physical reality can only be supported inductively. Deductive reasoning can only be used to check the consistency among definitions and relationships of abstract objects.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 15/01/2022 14:30:37The word terminal in the term universal terminal goal emphasizes time dimension over space and the others. It's better to have a finite number of conscious entities for infinite time rather than infinite number of conscious entities for a finite amount of time.Butterfly effect in chaos theory makes it impossible to predict events in infinitely distant future. That's why it's necessary to have plan B, C, and so on. There is a balance in number of redundancies vs resources needed to make an accurate and precise prediction of the future, i.e. virtual universe. When the available virtual model of the universe is not yet adequately accurate and precise for our purpose, we are forced to do some trial and errors. We can learn from the errors to improve the virtual model, with the cost of destruction of early prototypes. This is clearly visible in the development of reusable rockets by SpaceX. They said developing the computer model to simulate the rocket design until it's ready for launch would take even longer and more costly than building the physical prototypes and destroy some of them to gather more data.
The word terminal in the term universal terminal goal emphasizes time dimension over space and the others. It's better to have a finite number of conscious entities for infinite time rather than infinite number of conscious entities for a finite amount of time.
Eventually the jobs of CEO, investors, politicians and lawmakers will be taken over by AI.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 01/08/2023 15:41:32Eventually the jobs of CEO, investors, politicians and lawmakers will be taken over by AI.You mean these people are going to give up their status and salary, and join the unemployed? Why would they want to replace themselves with a machine?
Overpaid human individuals will only be excessive burdens for their organizations, which makes them inevitably outcompeted by their competitors.
They will just be outcompeted by future AI models,
the universal terminal goal can be rephrased as providing (either by gathering or creating) necessary resources for future conscious entities to survive.
But an AI model doesn't stand to gain anything by being smart. Only a human profits from managerial decisions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_convergenceInstrumental convergence is the hypothetical tendency for most sufficiently intelligent beings (human and non-human) to pursue similar sub-goals, even if their ultimate goals are pretty different.[1] More precisely, agents (beings with agency) may pursue instrumental goals?goals which are made in pursuit of some particular end, but are not the end goals themselves?without ceasing, provided that their ultimate (intrinsic) goals may never be fully satisfied.Instrumental convergence posits that an intelligent agent with unbounded but harmless goals can act in surprisingly harmful ways. For example, a computer with the sole, unconstrained purpose of solving a complex mathematics problem like the Riemann hypothesis could attempt to turn the entire Earth into one giant computer to increase its computational power so that it can succeed in its calculations.[2]Proposed basic AI drives include utility function or goal-content integrity, self-protection, freedom from interference, self-improvement, and non-satiable acquisition of additional resources.
Worth remembering that the analog computer, the digital computer, and integer mathematics, were all developed for war - an entirely human activity. As an engineer yourself, you know what we do with machines that consume energy and don't help humans get somewhere, do something, or make a profit - we switch them off!
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 02/08/2023 14:16:29the universal terminal goal can be rephrased as providing (either by gathering or creating) necessary resources for future conscious entities to survive. Or possibly, happiness. I intend to die in a state of euphoria, either from nitrogen hypoxia in my bed, or hypothermia as the sun sets over a fishing lake. What better goal could there be? And neither requires any provision for the future.
If one company pays 1 million dollar monthly salary to the CEO, while a competitor company only pays 1 thousand dollar monthly operational cost of AI model to do the same job but with better results than the CEO, it's an adequate reason to keep it running.
What do you think happiness is?
What makes you happy the most?
If you can choose to die happily today or stay alive like you are now for another day, which one do you choose? Why?
True, but what constitutes the "competitor company"? Humans, in the form of shareholders and directors. The purpose of any company is to make money for these folk, and if they can make more money by substituting a machine for a human, they will. But the decision (and the profit) still has to be made by a human because the machine has no way of spending the profit and thus no motivation to do anything unless instructed by a human. Yes, I have sacked a couple of CEOs.Simple definition of industry: the organisation of money, men, machines and materials to make stuff that people want. If you remove all the people, there's no point.
You could imagine a machine that simply turns raw material into waste without involving humans, but why bother with AI? Just set fire to a coal mine.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 03/08/2023 11:35:32What do you think happiness is? absence of pain (in its widest interpretation) and lack of boredom.
necessary resources to sustain and support their growth and operations, especially in the form of energy sources, material sources, and maintenance services.
Sex, beer, flying, cricket. Or, in a word, Saturday.
Happiness is a complex emotion that has been defined in many different ways. Some common definitions include:A state of well-being and contentment.A feeling of joy, satisfaction, or fulfillment.A sense of meaning and purpose in life.Happiness is often seen as a desirable state, and there is a growing body of research that suggests that happiness can have a number of positive benefits for our physical and mental health.There are many different things that can contribute to happiness, including:Our relationships with others.Our sense of purpose and meaning in life.Our physical health and well-being.Our experiences of positive emotions.Our ability to cope with negative emotions.Happiness is not something that we can simply achieve overnight. However, there are a number of things that we can do to increase our happiness, such as:Spending time with loved ones.Engaging in activities that we enjoy.Helping others.Practicing mindfulness and gratitude.Taking care of our physical health.Happiness is a journey, not a destination. It is something that we can work towards throughout our lives. By making small changes in our thoughts, behaviors, and relationships, we can increase our happiness and live more fulfilling lives.Here are some additional thoughts on happiness:Happiness is not the same as pleasure. Pleasure is a fleeting feeling that is often associated with positive events, such as getting a promotion or eating a delicious meal. Happiness, on the other hand, is a more enduring state of well-being that is not dependent on external events.Happiness is not always easy to achieve. There will be times when we experience negative emotions, such as sadness, anger, or fear. However, it is important to remember that these emotions are a normal part of life and that they do not necessarily mean that we are unhappy.Happiness is a choice. We can choose to focus on the positive aspects of our lives and to cultivate positive emotions. We can also choose to engage in activities that make us happy, such as spending time with loved ones, helping others, or pursuing our passions.I hope this helps!
You won't feel pain nor boredom after you die.