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There's no convincing reason to restrict the size of our system of civilization to currently existing state.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 15/08/2023 14:30:02That's why any life forms successfully passed natural selection have inherent tendency to increase their system size.Which is why all the fish in the sea are enormous. Never mind the facts, stick with the theory!
That's why any life forms successfully passed natural selection have inherent tendency to increase their system size.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 15/08/2023 14:30:02There's no convincing reason to restrict the size of our system of civilization to currently existing state.Oh yes there is! Human "civilisation" is the most wasteful, destructive and internecine disgrace yet to evolve on this planet.
Schools of fish are numerous. It's said that there is safety in number. What facts do you think contradict this assertion?
I am unaware of any other civilisation that could be described as "our system".
Human "civilisation" is the most wasteful, destructive and internecine disgrace yet to evolve on this planet.
Quote from: alancalverd on 15/08/2023 15:20:45Human "civilisation" is the most wasteful, destructive and internecine disgrace yet to evolve on this planet.What's your idea to improve it?
Previously, I've defined consciousness as the capacity to pursue goals. At least, that's what I refer to whenever I mention consciousness in this thread.On the other hand, I've defined goal as pursued condition, which requires the existence of conscious entities to pursue it.
the action of following or pursuing someone or something.an activity of a specified kind, especially a recreational or athletic one.
In the context of this thread, I'll define pursuit as using or consuming resources to achieve desired conditions.In turn, this definition then requires the definitions of consume, resource, and desire. But at least there's some progress.
A resource is something that can be used to achieve a purpose. It can be anything from a physical object to an intangible idea. The word "consume" has several meanings, but in general, it means to use up something. It can also mean to destroy something.The definition of desire is a strong feeling of wanting something.
Desires can be motivated by a number of factors, including biological needs, social conditioning, and personal experiences. They can also be influenced by our thoughts, feelings, and beliefs.Desires can be both positive and negative. Positive desires can motivate us to achieve our goals and improve our lives. Negative desires can lead to destructive behaviors, such as addiction or violence.It is important to understand our desires so that we can make choices that are in our best interests. We can also learn to manage our desires so that they do not control us.
Sooner or later, longevity escape velocity (time 20:00) will be reached. We better be prepared for that moment, in term of public policy, economy, and philosophy.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 21/08/2023 07:20:23Sooner or later, longevity escape velocity (time 20:00) will be reached. We better be prepared for that moment, in term of public policy, economy, and philosophy.The Greenland Shark, HeLa tumor cells, and several species of fungus have solved the problems of longevity without wasting time on policy, economics or philosophy.
Nor do they need one.
A sprawling sea grass meadow ten miles long near Spain ranks as the oldest known single organism on Earth, according to geneticists.Posidonia oceanica, known as Neptune?s grass, is endemic to the Mediterranean Sea. But a patch near the island of Formentera, self-cloned like Pando, stands out for its age, estimated at 200,000 years.
Nobody does, but most of us are content to do so for as long as we can. QuoteA sprawling sea grass meadow ten miles long near Spain ranks as the oldest known single organism on Earth, according to geneticists.Posidonia oceanica, known as Neptune?s grass, is endemic to the Mediterranean Sea. But a patch near the island of Formentera, self-cloned like Pando, stands out for its age, estimated at 200,000 years.
I doubt that. Some bacteria are remarkably resilient. Dried yeast can sit in a cupboard for years and reproduce as soon as it encounters any water and sugar.
Most bacteria die when exposed to UV light.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 22/08/2023 23:26:43Most bacteria die when exposed to UV light.UVC, certainly. Also lethal to humans, whose outer biofilm is also dead.