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Something I want to achieve, or want someone else (like Arsenal Football Club) to achieve. Other people want Spurs to achieve it, so it can't be universal.
finding out the universal terminal goal
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 26/05/2024 14:00:33finding out the universal terminal goalfirst requires proof that there is or should be one. Why not spend your time looking for fairies instead?
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 29/04/2023 07:59:47I've uploaded a new video about the most universal goal logically conceivable. It describes goal in the most general sense, which should precede the first video about the universal terminal goal.A method to arrive to the universal terminal goal.Start with an arbitrary goal.Identify all of its requirements.Remove any requirements which can be removed without making the goal stops being a goal.Whatever remains is the one we are looking for.
I've uploaded a new video about the most universal goal logically conceivable. It describes goal in the most general sense, which should precede the first video about the universal terminal goal.
Quote from: Halc on 30/08/2023 15:15:20OK, I can remove all of them, and the goal is still to make a paper airplane.By removing paper requirement, you can make airplane, although not made of paper.By removing fly-ability requirement, you can make a plane, although not airplane.
OK, I can remove all of them, and the goal is still to make a paper airplane.
The moment you qualify it with "universal" it becomes nonsense. Whatever you think consciousness means, it involves life.Living things are competitive.Therefore there cannot be a single universal goal.
I am alive. A crocodile is alive. A bacterium is alive. A rose bush is alive. Animals want to eat plants or each other, plants and animals in general don't want to be eaten. Our goals are quite different. So even in this tiny bit of the universe, there is no goal that is agreed or can be achieved by all of us, therefore no universal goal apart from the inevitable heat death of the universe.Anything else is philosophical bullshit.
So what mutual goal do they all have, that can be achieved without one species eating another en route?
Continuously preserving consciousness is required to keep goals exist.
Crocodiles and cockroaches have survived far greater environmental changes than humans have experienced or are likely to survive in the future, so I guess that eating humans, whether dead or alive, looks like the universal terminal goal.
Bacteria have survived much longer.
I guess that eating humans, whether dead or alive, looks like the universal terminal goal.