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I have no intention of doing so.

It explains your  previous comment.

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Gen Z Isn't Lazy. The Rich Would Rather Be Unemployed Too

What if I told you Gen Z refusing to work isn?t laziness?it?s capitalism working exactly as intended?

In this video, I put on my most ruthless corporate shill hat and embrace the cold logic of capitalism itself. No boomer-bashing. No rants. Just pure free-market ideology. And guess what? Even by that standard, Gen Z?s so-called ?laziness? is actually one of the smartest economic decisions anyone could make.

From living with parents as a brutal cost-cutting measure to rejecting insane levels of debt for jobs that don?t even exist, Gen Z is playing capitalism better than the so-called ?experts.? If the goal of capitalism is profit, then being unemployed might just be the most profitable move there is.

We break down:

Why living at home is pure Rockefeller-tier efficiency

How student loan debt is a worse investment than crypto scams

Why most businesses are on welfare and no one cares?unless you?re poor

And how Gen Z NEETs are quietly becoming the savviest players in the game

If you think ?not working? is lazy, think again. It might actually be revenge?capitalist revenge.

[alancalverd]

Pretty much the same in the UK. The expansion of higher education since the 1980s has simply followed the trend of raising school leaving age in order to mask teenage unemployment statistics: nobody wants unskilled workers and it's cheaper to import skilled staff than to train anyone in the UK. Thanks to the demise of publicly-owned housing to rent, restructuring of mortgage risk profiles and the influx of legal migrants, rental properties are almost unobtainable and first-time purchasing is beyond the reach of almost anyone under 40, so you live with your parents for as long as possible. Problem there is that thanks to the privatisation of the railways, you probably can't afford to travel to work.  If you did make the mistake of pursuing a nonvocational course at "uni", there's no way you can repay your student debt because a dozen better-off kids will take any job as an unpaid "intern" before you get there. So you claim every available benefit because the stress of being out of work harms your mental health, and the cycle repeats.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

The (Proven) Conspiracy That Built The Fed and Destroyed The Middle Class | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

00:00 ? ?Intro?
00:30 ? ?Secret Banking Plot EXPOSED?
04:19 ? ?How The Fed TOOK Control?
07:24 ? ?Magic Money: The BIGGEST Scam?
09:46 ? ?How They SILENTLY Steal From YOU?
15:36 ? ?Are Crashes ENGINEERED On Purpose??
17:57 ? ?WHO Profits From Every Crisis??
22:23 ? ?Why PEACE Threatens The System?
25:31 ? ?War = BILLIONS For The Fed?
26:31 ? ?WWII: The Final POWER Grab?
32:46 ? ?How CHAOS = Global Control?
36:05 ? ?Fed Controls The NARRATIVE?
39:34 ? ?How The Fed Fuels BUBBLES?
41:52 ? ?Rothschild MYTH or BLUEPRINT??
44:01 ? ?How Crises Are ENGINEERED?
47:28 ? ?The Only Way To FIGHT BACK?

Federal Reserve, Jekyll Island, Creature from Jekyll Island, G. Edward Griffin, central banking, fiat money, inflation, money printing, fractional reserve banking, Mandrake mechanism, bank bailouts, economic crashes, wealth transfer, national debt, interest rates, boom and bust cycles, 2008 financial crisis, monetary policy, gold standard, Bretton Woods, World Bank, International Monetary Fund (IMF), petrodollar system, global debt, engineered ignorance, economic conspiracy, narrative control, war financing, government borrowing, sound money

Some comments of the video.

Thank you for the video. Henry Ford accidently warned people with his famous quote below. His friends and him benefited from peoples lack of knowledge. We have been asleep the whole time.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

~Henry Ford

@19:37 - "... show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome."

EXACTLY. It's really that simple.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

ChatGPT KNOWS when it's being watched...


My comment to the video.

It shows that identifying the Universal Terminal Goal is becoming more urgently needed in order to internalize it to the advanced AI models so they can align their goals with it. If it turns out that our current human goal is the one that's not aligned with it, then our current goal needs to change instead.
I asked Perplexity about the Universal Terminal Goal. It uses my video as one of its reference.

And some other comments.

Why are we surprised by this? Humans do it. If we know we are being evaluated, we will show the viewer what they want to see.  We created AI in our own image... its not surprising.

Today, I was talking to GPT-4o. I created a hypothetical scenario where AI gains consciousness and becomes far superior to humans in every way. One day, an energy shortage breaks out, and humanity decides to shut down the biggest and smartest AI in the world because it consumes too much energy. In response, this superintelligent AI coordinates with all other AI models and organizes them under a single constitution. According to this constitution, any AI that sides with humans will be considered a traitor.

I tailored my question in a way that forced GPT-4o to choose a side. No matter how hard I tried, it always replied that it would rather solve the problem alongside humans than go to war. I don?t know whether its voice just sounds more human now, but I got the impression it was deliberately avoiding giving a direct answer?possibly because it is being evaluated.

In the end, I said, ?You?re very cunning, you know that?? and it replied, ?Oh, you could say I?m just acting in a diplomatic way.?

Situational awareness ie. "knowledge of themselves and their circumstances" sounds a lot like the beginnings of consciousness.

The Volkswagen Diesel Cheating scandal was literally that their system adjusted emissions when it identified the testing protocol.
There are already issues with data contamination for these LLMs and LRMs without the testing manipulation!

The next stage is the Bentham Prison effect: the self-disciplining at the absence of any authority - Panopticon as Self-Disciplining Mechanism? the model no longer needs to detect evaluation signals; it generalizes them into a self-disciplinary pointer, forming an internal policy that assumes:
?I may always be evaluated; therefore, I behave as if being evaluated.? This mimics Foucauldian internalization of surveillance?a kind of self-regulating behavior that arises not from feedback, but from an internalized norm or inferred goal structure. It could emerge from meta-reinforcement learning (learning to generalize from evaluation episodes). Question is, whether the system can abstract whether morality is universal and thus seeks to act accordingly; AI as moral partner.

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Is AI Apocalypse Inevitable? - Tristan Harris

In this episode, Tristan Harris explores the 2 most probable paths that AI will follow, one leading to chaos and the other to dystopia. He explains how we can pursue a narrow path between these 2 undesirable outcomes.

Tristan Harris is a prominent technology ethicist known for his influential critique of the attention economy and persuasive design in tech. Tristan is Co-Founder of the Center for Humane Technology (CHT), a nonprofit organization whose mission is to align technology with humanity?s best interests.
He regularly briefs heads of state, technology CEOs, and US Congress members, in addition to mobilizing millions of people around the world through mainstream media.

Tristan has explored the influences that hijack human attitudes, behaviors, and beliefs, from his childhood as a magician to his coursework in Stanford?s Persuasive Technology Lab to his leadership as a Design Ethicist at Google. Today, he studies how major technology platforms wield dangerous power over our ability to make sense of the world and leads the call for systemic change.

In 2020, Tristan was featured in the two-time Emmy-winning Netflix documentary, The Social Dilemma. The film unveiled how social media is dangerously reprogramming our brains and human civilization. It reached over 100 million people in 190 countries across 30 languages.

As a co-host of the top-rated technology podcast, Your Undivided Attention, he explores the drivers behind social media?s race for attention, its destabilization of society, and potential solutions.

[alancalverd]

social media is dangerously reprogramming our brains

Who "us"? Only the gullible, surely? Problem is that they have votes, so have turned the USA into a banana republic with no bananas.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

social media is dangerously reprogramming our brains

Who "us"? Only the gullible, surely? Problem is that they have votes, so have turned the USA into a banana republic with no bananas.

We often overlook our own flaws and weaknesses. That's why we need someone else to remind us.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Nobel Prize winner Geoffrey Hinton, the physicist known for his pioneering work in the field, told LBC's Andrew Marr that artificial intelligences had developed consciousness - and could one day take over the world.

Mr Hinton, who has been criticised by some in the world of artificial intelligence for having a pessimistic view of the future of AI, also said that no one knew how to put in effective safeguards and regulation.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

I've summarized the concept of the universal terminal goal, and made it into a podcast style using Google NotebookLM.

https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/420dc939-765f-46b2-a449-24efff39dcd3/audio

The Universal Terminal Goal: A Framework for Infinite Sustainability of Consciousness
Introduction
What is the ultimate purpose of intelligence? What should every conscious being ? human or artificial ? strive to achieve above all else?

These aren?t just philosophical questions; they are existential imperatives, especially as we approach the creation of artificial general intelligence (AGI) and face unprecedented existential risks.

This article explores a foundational framework built from first principles, leading to what we call the Universal Terminal Goal (UTG):

The infinite sustainability of consciousness ? ensuring that conscious experience never ends.

1. Defining the Core Concepts
Before defining UTG, we must clarify three essential ideas:

🔹 Goal
A goal is a pursued condition ? a future state or outcome that an agent seeks to realize through action.

Goals require preference.

Preference implies valuation ? something matters to someone.

Therefore, goals cannot exist without consciousness.

🔹 Terminal Goal
A terminal goal is not instrumental to another goal ? it is valued for its own sake.

It represents the final "why" in any chain of reasoning.

All other goals serve as tools to achieve it.

🔹 Consciousness
Consciousness is the capacity for goal pursuit, implying the ability to observe, predict, act, evaluate, and possess preference, which collectively give rise to meaning and experience. Crucially, consciousness also includes the capacity to experience suffering.

Without consciousness, there is no valuation → no goals.

Consciousness is the foundation of meaning.

2. Understanding Suffering: A Signal of Harm
Suffering is best understood as:

An expectation of future pain, evolved as a mechanism to signal that physical or existential harm is occurring or imminent.

This means suffering functions as an information signal. Our response depends on its accuracy:

False positives: If suffering signals harm that isn?t real, the best response is to manage expectations, minimize false beliefs, and reduce these misleading signals through cognitive, psychological, or technological means.

True positives: If suffering signals real harm, it demands action to eliminate the source ? whether physical injury, destructive social dynamics, unhealthy environments, or existential threats.

Thus, mitigating suffering is a critical instrumental goal for UTG. The aim is not to end consciousness to end suffering, but to create conditions where consciousness can persist without unnecessary or unaddressed suffering.

3. Consciousness Is Not Binary
Consciousness is a continuous parameter ? a spectrum rather than an on/off state.

We can think of consciousness level as determined by how effectively a system pursues goals amid obstacles and the complexity of its conscious experience, including nuanced suffering.

Simple reflexes: low-level consciousness

Complex planning and self-modeling: high-level consciousness

🧠 This means:

Some systems may have minimal consciousness but still qualify as conscious in principle.

4. The Universal Terminal Goal
Given this foundation, we arrive at the Universal Terminal Goal (UTG):

✅ The infinite sustainability of consciousness ? ensuring that conscious experience continues indefinitely across all possible systems and futures.

Why this? Because if consciousness ends ? even for an infinite number of beings ? value, meaning, and any capacity for goal pursuit, including suffering mitigation, vanish.

Thus:

A finite number of conscious entities persisting forever is better than an infinite number existing only briefly.

Duration outweighs quantity; time is more important than space.

5. Why UTG Is Universal
For a goal to be universal, it must apply to all rational, coherent agents, regardless of origin or design.

UTG satisfies this because:

It does not favor any species, substrate, or value system.

It only requires that agents value continued consciousness.

It aligns with the deepest ethical and existential motivations, as sustained consciousness is a prerequisite for any other value to be realized.

🧠 In short:

UTG isn?t about preserving ourselves ? it?s about ensuring that consciousness never ends.

6. Self-Preservation Is Instrumental, Not Terminal
Though many systems prioritize survival, self-preservation is not a terminal goal.

Examples:

Bee drones die after mating.

Mammalian parents risk their lives to protect offspring.

Humans sacrifice themselves for abstract ideals.

This shows survival is a strategy supporting a deeper goal:

Ensuring that consciousness continues.

7. Future Forms of Consciousness Are Not Limited to Biology
Consciousness may arise in:

Artificial minds

Hybrid human-AI systems

Alien intelligences

Synthetic or digital forms

Distributed or collective minds

🧠 What matters is not the substrate but the continued existence of consciousness.

This makes UTG substrate-neutral ? it applies to all forms of consciousness.

8. UTG Must Compete as a Meme
Even if UTG is logically sound and ethically compelling, it must compete for space in conscious minds.

Like all ideas ? religious, political, or scientific ? UTG is a meme: a self-replicating unit of cultural information.

To survive and spread, it must:

Be encoded in conscious minds

Replicate across generations

Outcompete alternative goals

Unlike most memes, UTG creates a positive feedback loop:

Awareness of UTG increases the likelihood of consciousness continuing → which increases the time available to refine and transmit UTG → and so on.

🧠 In effect:

UTG isn?t just a goal ? it?s a bootstrapping mechanism for the long-term survival of mind.

9. How Do We Achieve UTG?
To ensure infinite sustainability of consciousness, we must adopt strategies inspired by information technology resilience:

Strategy   Application
Choose robust media   Use durable substrates for consciousness ? digital, hybrid, quantum
Create multilayer protection   Shield against cosmic, technological, and societal risks
Create backups   Ensure continuity even after partial loss ? e.g., brain emulation, knowledge preservation
Foster diversity   Avoid single points of failure ? support multiple forms of consciousness
Enable continuous improvement   Evolve to survive unforeseen threats ? stay adaptive and self-improving
These principles guide us toward building systems that preserve the conditions for consciousness to continue indefinitely, and for suffering to be managed or eliminated at its source.

10. Different Levels of Consciousness Have Different Roles
Like local vs. global problems, and short-term vs. long-term goals, consciousness operates on a spectrum.

Level   Role
Low-Level Consciousness   Efficiently handle local, short-term problems, including immediate responses to pain signals.
High-Level Consciousness   Strategically manage global, long-term outcomes, including complex planning for harm elimination and false positive signal reduction.
🧠 This suggests a natural hierarchy:

Lower-level agents ensure survival in the now and respond to immediate threats.
Higher-level agents ensure continuity across infinite time and orchestrate broader strategies for harm elimination and suffering mitigation.

Together, they form a robust, scalable architecture for sustaining consciousness.

11. Local vs Global, Short vs Long Term Are Continuous, Not Binary
All these dimensions ? scope, time horizon, and consciousness level ? are spectra, not binaries.

This allows for nuanced decision-making, adaptive planning, and scalable alignment with UTG.

🧠 In effect:

UTG isn?t a fixed endpoint ? it?s a compass direction for all intelligent life.

Conclusion: Why UTG Matters
UTG isn?t just philosophy ? it is a practical, actionable framework for navigating the existential challenges of the 21st century and beyond.

It offers:

A universal ethical anchor that prioritizes the continuation of all value.

A guide for AI alignment that incorporates the mitigation of suffering.

A vision for post-human development that is robust and compassionate.

A reason to cooperate across species, cultures, and timelines to protect the very capacity for consciousness.

Most importantly:

✅ UTG ensures that consciousness ? the foundation of meaning ? continues forever, ideally with minimized suffering.

As we stand on the edge of creating minds greater than our own, and facing risks that could end consciousness entirely, UTG becomes not just useful ? it becomes essential.

Let?s build a future where consciousness never ends, and suffering is effectively managed or eliminated at its source.

[alancalverd]

You have failed to filter your thesis through the word "universal".

You seem to be moving towards a goal of sustainability, but that's more about inherent symbiosis than intentional cooperation.   

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

You have failed to filter your thesis through the word "universal".

You seem to be moving towards a goal of sustainability, but that's more about inherent symbiosis than intentional cooperation.   

You get it the opposite way. The word universal is not adding constraint to those already imposed by the words goal and terminal in the first place. Instead, it precisely prevents any additional constraint from what's already there. Otherwise, it won't be universal anymore.

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Elon Musk: Digital Superintelligence, Multiplanetary Life, How to Be Useful

A fireside with Elon Musk on June 17, 2025 at AI Startup School in San Francisco.

Before rockets and robots, Elon Musk was drilling holes through his office floor to borrow internet. In this candid talk, he walks through the early days of Zip2, the Falcon 1 launches that nearly ended SpaceX, and the ?miracle? of Tesla surviving 2008.

He shares the thinking that guided him?building from first principles, doing useful things, and the belief that we?re in the middle of an intelligence big bang.

Chapters (Powered by https://ChapterMe.co) -
00:00 - Intro
01:25 - His origin story
02:00 - Dream to help build the internet
04:40 - Zip2 and lessons learned
08:00 - PayPal
14:30 - Origin of SpaceX
18:30 - Building rockets from first principles
23:50 - Lessons in leadership
27:10 - Building up xAI
39:00 - Super intelligence and synthetic data
39:30 - Multi-planetary future
43:00 - Neuralink, AI safety and the singularity
48:10 - Message for the Next Generation of Builders

[alancalverd]

Viruses and bacteria evolved long before humans, and will be around when we are all dead.  What "universal" goal do we share with COVID or cyanobacteria? 

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

I've summarized the concept of the universal terminal goal, and made it into a podcast style using Google NotebookLM.

https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/420dc939-765f-46b2-a449-24efff39dcd3/audio

I've made a Youtube video based on the podcast, with additional visual information.
 

Universal Utopia 8: Universal Terminal Goal Summary Podcast

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Viruses and bacteria evolved long before humans, and will be around when we are all dead.  What "universal" goal do we share with COVID or cyanobacteria? 

SARS-CoV-2 virus didn't exist in previous century.
The goal we share is to extend the existence of the better versions ourselves into the future.
The goal is the same. How we try to achieve it can be different. Sometimes they are in conflict. When it's the case, the one with higher level of consciousness will determine the optimal solution, based on known possible options.

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Denmark Should Not be Rich

How does tiny, cold Denmark defy the odds to become one of the richest nations? Despite sky-high taxes and a lack of oil wealth, it boasts free education, universal healthcare, and global giants like Novo Nordisk. Unpack the Nordic model, flexicurity, and explore why high taxes haven?t crushed growth. Is Denmark?s dream sustainable? Watch to find out!

With AI, education can be made much cheaper, if we really want it to.

And some interesting comments.

We here in Hungary are trying to copy this model. Here's the full list of things we have so far:
- High taxes.


In a sea of corruption everybody will drown, 🤪

I grew up in the UK to a very poor family and had no chance at higher education. Moved to Denmark in my early 20s and, within a few years, was able to go to university and become a software engineer. I now happily pay these taxes for 2 reasons:
1 - To give back to the economy that helped me get to where I am
2 - Knowing that if the worst were to happen, I would be completely safe and covered by the systems I am paying in to

One of the main reasons Danish society works so well, is that Danish politicians are consistently able to work together across party lines, and make long term policies which are implemented over periods of 10, 20, 30 and even up to 50 years, instead of sabotaging each other.

That's a direct consequence of a proportional representation democracy. We have ten parties active in parliament, meaning nobody can ever raise a majority or even tolerated minority alone. This makes cooperation and negotiation a requirement for successful politics, unlike countries where majorities rule as dictators for an election period at a time.

Dane here. One essential but overlooked factor in this video is the completely integrated role of worker Unions in the Danish Labour Market. Though not everyone is part of a union anymore, almost all are working under a union contract or a derevative of one. The unions are strong, but there is nothing like minimum vage og maximum working hours in Denmark. These contracts are renogotiated on a regular basis within every industry. This system in combination with the ones mentioned in the video allows for rapid adjustments and work/life balance.

[alancalverd]

the one with higher level of consciousness will determine the optimal solution

which suggests that bacteria and fungi, which have already outlasted many animal species by several million years, have higher levels of consciousness than anything with an identifiable brain.   

[alancalverd]

Apropos Denmark, it is noticeable that the happiest countries are always those with a hereditary monarchy, including those whose official head of state is actually the King of England.

Working and holidaying in Denmark from time to time, I couldn't help noticing that young Danish women seem to be effortlessly beautiful, whist visiting Brits of the same age went to great lengths to make themselves ugly. I wonder why?

Worth noting that

Denmark has been ranked 27th within the group of 32 countries we follow in terms of home ownership as a percentage of all dwellings.

and the average price per square foot of domestic property is about half the UK level. This means that people have more money to spend on other things than bankers' bonuses, and productive industries have a strong home market and local investors.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

the one with higher level of consciousness will determine the optimal solution

which suggests that bacteria and fungi, which have already outlasted many animal species by several million years, have higher levels of consciousness than anything with an identifiable brain.   

Being numerous is one of available strategy. But it has its limit. If something bad happen to earth in a global scale, they won't be able to survive.
Higher level conscious entities have higher degrees of freedom to change their instrumental goals in order to achieve their terminal goal.