[milan_kecman]

They have a sense.Very deep meaning.Let's go back for 100 years,from this blind street.
Or patiently wait (30-40 years) for ITER to fail.

[evan_au]

Yet another fusion startup. This one tries to utilise plasma instability (and they aren't using a sphere either!).

ITER is pushing the boundaries of engineering capabilities. But trying a number of different approaches may yield advances in unexpected places.

See: https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/nuclear/startup-lppfusion-embraces-instability

[profound (OP)]

Yet another fusion startup. This one tries to utilise plasma instability (and they aren't using a sphere either!).

ITER is pushing the boundaries of engineering capabilities. But trying a number of different approaches may yield advances in unexpected places.

See: https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/nuclear/startup-lppfusion-embraces-instability

But trying a number of different approaches may yield advances in unexpected places.

you mean the wallet of tax payers on this fools errand?

[Bored chemist]

you mean the wallet of tax payers on this fools errand?

Every "point" you have made has been refuted. You keep going on about it.
Who is the "fool"

[evan_au]

Yet another fusion startup....you mean the wallet of tax payers on this fools errand?

Startups only waste the money of the investors - but it sometimes pays off big for the investors.

More frequently, it might employ some people for a while, and if they are lucky, generate some patents or new ideas that other people will build on later (sometimes even the same people).

That's what risky, high-tech science involves.

Whatever happens, the engineering and international coordination involved in a large-scale project like ITER generates economies of scale in superconductors, develops new industries, and will generate many patents and scientific papers, even if it doesn't generate any electricity.

[profound (OP)]

Yet another fusion startup....you mean the wallet of tax payers on this fools errand?

Startups only waste the money of the investors - but it sometimes pays off big for the investors.

More frequently, it might employ some people for a while, and if they are lucky, generate some patents or new ideas that other people will build on later (sometimes even the same people).

That's what risky, high-tech science involves.

Whatever happens, the engineering and international coordination involved in a large-scale project like ITER generates economies of scale in superconductors, develops new industries, and will generate many patents and scientific papers, even if it doesn't generate any electricity.

Well 3 years later and still no fusion....

I TOLD YOU SO.

[Bored chemist]

OK
Two things.
One;  it's not built yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER#Timeline_and_status

Two, it's three years on, and you haven't understood the "E" in ITER.

[Kryptid]

Well 3 years later and still no fusion....

I TOLD YOU SO.

Did anyone here claim that we would have fusion in three years?

[Bored chemist]

Well 3 years later and still no fusion....

I TOLD YOU SO.

Did anyone here claim that we would have fusion in three years?

Just to clarify things, three years ago (when the thread started) the ITER was not scheduled to be built until 2025.
So crowing about it not working yet is absurdly illogical...

[profound (OP)]

Well 3 years later and still no fusion....

I TOLD YOU SO.

Did anyone here claim that we would have fusion in three years?

Just to clarify things, three years ago (when the thread started) the ITER was not scheduled to be built until 2025.
So crowing about it not working yet is absurdly illogical...

it's been put further back and it will never work as it is the wrong shape. how many torus shaped stars can you point to....


exactly zero..

its a too big to fail gravy train.



can i make you eat your hat if it does not work which it will not.


remember its mission  statement?

confinement for 90 seconds...

[Kryptid]

it's been put further back and it will never work as it is the wrong shape. how many torus shaped stars can you point to....


exactly zero..

That's like arguing that helicopters can't fly because they aren't shaped like birds.

[profound (OP)]

it's been put further back and it will never work as it is the wrong shape. how many torus shaped stars can you point to....


exactly zero..

That's like arguing that helicopters can't fly because they aren't shaped like birds.

its not a heliocopter.

[Bored chemist]

it's been put further back and it will never work as it is the wrong shape. how many torus shaped stars can you point to....

Well, if you think an fusion reactor is a star- and it seems you are that misguided,
I went to vist one when I was a student.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_European_Torus

There are plenty of others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fusion_experiments#Tokamak

[Kryptid]

its not a heliocopter.

And fusion reactors aren't stars.

[evan_au]

it's been put further back

A lot of things have been delayed by COVID-19.

...of course, a lot of things will be blamed on COVID-19 that were due to entirely different causes!