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Why the Sun at noon is appears above our heads? Curved journey To Mars?

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Why the Sun at noon is appears above our heads? Curved journey To Mars?
« on: 23/09/2017 12:17:52 »

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Seems light is affected by gravity, atmosphere produces a lens, objects appear smaller at distances as our eyes have lenses and only see light direct. P.G Griffiths 23 September 2017

Add in the travel of Mars and guess there's a short cut to Mars.
Mars is not where you see it.
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Re: Curved journey To Mars & why the Sun at noon is above our heads.
« Reply #1 on: 23/09/2017 14:25:19 »
Please repost this as a question on a science topic.
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Re: Curved journey To Mars & why the Sun at noon is above our heads?
« Reply #2 on: 23/09/2017 15:26:57 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 23/09/2017 14:25:19
Please repost this as a question on a science topic.
If you are just going to make statements the post will be removed from this section

A forum is a place of discussion, a statement or question and removal of such is not a true refection of the standard of the forum or in colin's case "Moderation may be erasing future science".

While on the subject of moderation, are you checking each post with an advert thus increasing your revenue?

Griffiths, mostly Professors or Rugby Players... try Triball.
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Re: Curved journey To Mars & why the Sun at noon is above our heads?
« Reply #3 on: 23/09/2017 21:10:15 »
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Add in the travel of Mars and guess there's a short cut to Mars.
There are many short-cuts to Mars - but they mostly use a lot more energy (ie more fuel=more cost) than the traditional Hohman transfer orbit.

For a trip to Mars, it's a tradeoff between fuel needed for a faster trip vs the duration/radiation exposure and air/food/water to get humans there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohmann_transfer_orbit#Application_to_interplanetary_travel
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Re: Curved journey To Mars & why the Sun at noon is above our heads?
« Reply #4 on: 24/09/2017 03:31:59 »
Quote from: evan_au on 23/09/2017 21:10:15
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Add in the travel of Mars and guess there's a short cut to Mars.
There are many short-cuts to Mars - but they mostly use a lot more energy (ie more fuel=more cost) than the traditional Hohman transfer orbit.

For a trip to Mars, it's a tradeoff between fuel needed for a faster trip vs the duration/radiation exposure and air/food/water to get humans there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohmann_transfer_orbit#Application_to_interplanetary_travel

First invented by robin hood.
There are 2 ways to Mars actually, with and without this one. Tell me more and ill either call you a square with round corners(so you don't hurt yourself) or ill applaud you.
They did say they finally got there to mars. Meaning it wasn't that easy.

Call this "Griffiths's Sun" and ill remember you. Do an internet search for "why is the Sun at noon above our heads?"
It is not accepted gravity bends light as of yet because Red-Shift theory would possibly then fail.
Red-Shift theory to me is impossible to be calculated as "how do you know the distance if you don't know it's size?" And vice-versa. Remember this. If they say "There always the same size" then one thing I can think of is "Is it the same thing?"(Don't quote me on that).
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Re: Curved journey To Mars & why the Sun at noon is above our heads?
« Reply #5 on: 24/09/2017 09:30:52 »
Due to my "Is it the same thing?" statement above ill have to think about this again for the many paths.

This is real strange, I can't currently work this out what so ever to the semi-amusing question "Am I the only one here?" and "Did I invent the sun in order to see?". Or in your case "Am I reading this text for something to do?"
Ill call this "many aware".

It's either something else or the earth isn't actually round Something like the universe is not 3D, its sphereD?
What would sphereD be to many point views in space?
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Re: Curved journey To Mars & why the Sun at noon is above our heads?
« Reply #6 on: 24/09/2017 10:49:42 »

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Well,
dark blue is 3 points in space.
Light blue is the 3 points in a different dimension.
Green is the 3 points in either the same or different dimension?

Are we inside the sun? Somewhere to nowhere.
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Re: Curved journey To Mars & why the Sun at noon is above our heads?
« Reply #7 on: 24/09/2017 11:47:12 »
I forgot atmosphere produces a lens.

Giving myself odds of 2/1.
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Re: Why the Sun at noon is appears above our heads? Curved journey To Mars?
« Reply #8 on: 24/09/2017 12:18:33 »
Guess to prove if atmosphere produces a lens is points on the ground, travel upwards and expected distances.
Or a perfect flat non-lens camera.

...There could be so many beings that happen to be looking that you are always being looked at.
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Re: Why the Sun at noon is appears above our heads? Curved journey To Mars?
« Reply #9 on: 24/09/2017 16:27:49 »
Light HAS to be affected by gravity and the atmosphere HAS to act as a lens for the sun to appear above our heads else the earth is not a sphere or were inside the sun...

If light is not affected by gravity then how above our heads for everyone and why not an odd looking shape or brighter the left side of the sun?
If the atmosphere is not a lens then why the Sun appear so small?

If the Sun is gas then probably little gravity.


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It's quite difficult to guess the Sun's real distance... the order of the planets?

2 rockets please with a camera above and below.
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Re: Why the Sun at noon is appears above our heads? Curved journey To Mars?
« Reply #10 on: 24/09/2017 21:42:52 »
I don't believe poor people should eat poor food.
Tasty.

Items... Postcode quality? I purchased a quality looking swivel chair to be king of design. Back cushion was awful.

I would comment on the price of a brick being only 54p, but I won't. (About 10,000 bricks at about £5000 for nice 4 bed house). Got a million pounds? How about a 800 rooms?

Minimum wage started about 15 years ago at about £5.50. So today I would estimate £16.50. That being cost of average items doubling in 10 years.
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Re: Why the Sun at noon is appears above our heads? Curved journey To Mars?
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Does anyone have a clue what paulggriffiths is on about?

Don't know how to take your statement. Please continue I'm here...
Surely you know...

May be you should stick to consuming your chemistry?
May be your 10,000 message will tell you. Will you remember?
Stop looking at my Sun.

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Bored Chemist, how your ph this morning?   
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I don't believe poor people should eat poor food.
Tasty.

Items... Postcode quality? I purchased a quality looking swivel chair to be king of design. Back cushion was awful.

I would comment on the price of a brick being only 54p, but I won't. (About 10,000 bricks at about £5000 for nice 4 bed house. That's £30 a brick overall for a house). Got a million pounds? How about a 800 rooms?

Minimum wage started about 15 years ago at about £5.50. So today I would estimate £16.50. That being cost of average items doubling in 10 years.

Live in total quality.
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Re: Why the Sun at noon is appears above our heads? Curved journey To Mars?
« Reply #15 on: 25/09/2017 16:01:57 »
Intersting concept...
May be the Sun emits massive photon and when it hits your window, some of it goes in to your room?
When it scatters, there's your photons.
The scattering of the sun makes it glow?
Black absorbs light, white reflects light and colours, there's a lot to photon.
Something here about some of it absorbs, some of it reflects and some of it glows.
What would a perfect reflective metal or otherwise look like? A mirror that you can't see?
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Re: Why the Sun at noon is appears above our heads? Curved journey To Mars?
« Reply #18 on: 26/09/2017 00:48:17 »
The Sun may be so clever the Sun doesn't want you knowing how Noon works.
Last stage the sun is seen as small is either atmospherical lens, gravityspherical lense or some other spherical lens.
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Re: Why the Sun at noon is appears above our heads? Curved journey To Mars?
« Reply #19 on: 27/09/2017 00:49:46 »
Some or all of you may be wondering what this thread is about?

Take the image below and put Britain on the globes, Britain is about 1/4 from top of globe and remember to include earth's tilt too.
Now sun for noon(midday) in summer is not where seen in Britain for that time of day and nowhere near so for winter.
It's easy asking the question why?

Been wondering this with the internet since year 2000

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