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Re: The N-field
« Reply #220 on: 12/11/2017 00:15:48 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 11/11/2017 23:33:04
Your original claim is that the currently-accepted model contradicts itself.
Please provide reference of where I say that.
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« Reply #221 on: 12/11/2017 00:23:25 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 11/11/2017 23:33:04
The field is merely the way that the poles communicate with each other.
communicate really? they can speak?  Why do you ignore the actual theory and keep trying to defend present information?

If it were not polarity , all charge and energies would be likewise and not do anything.


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Re: The N-field
« Reply #222 on: 12/11/2017 03:35:25 »
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 00:15:48
Please provide reference of where I say that.

Here you are:

Quote from: Thebox on 11/11/2017 16:31:54
But when you own science contradicts your own model, it is time to look for an alternative model.

Quote from: Thebox on 11/11/2017 16:42:50
The field around a magnet is not and cannot be a single pole according to the contradiction of your own

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb%27s_law
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The law has been tested extensively, and all observations have upheld the law's principle.

This here says my first premise has call for questioning.

You and I both know likewise polarities mean expansion.   If all points of a field were likewise in polarity, the field will expand according to physical laws. If it doe snot expand then it is not a single pole field.

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''You'' are telling me a likewise field does not expand but on the other hand saying likewise repulses.

That is a contradiction.

It certainly sounds like you are saying that the currently-accepted model of electromagnetics contradicts itself. If that's not what you are saying, then good. The currently-accepted model explains existing phenomena, unlike your N-field which can't explain neutron-related phenomena and we are supposed to overlook that major flaw because you are an "amateur scientist" with a "young theory".

Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 00:23:25
communicate really? they can speak?

I'm using communication in its loosest sense. Communication is an exchange of information. I guess that means you don't think sign language is a form of communication, since you seem to think communication automatically implies speaking. Fields exchange information about the particles that generate them. That's what I meant by "communicate".

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Why do you ignore the actual theory and keep trying to defend present information?

When you say "the actual theory", are you talking about your N-field or about the currently-accepted model of matter? If you'll recall, I did address your theory and pointed out the holes in it regarding its inability to explain neutron-related phenomena. You responded by complaining about being an amateur scientist with a young theory. If you are going to acknowledge short-comings in your own ideas, then you need to be more humble about it instead of insisting that you've got the right idea and everyone else is wrong.

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If it were not polarity , all charge and energies would be likewise and not do anything.

You keep conflating the polarity of a field and the charge that generates the field. That's like saying that a rock dropped into a pool and the waves created by that rock are the same thing.
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #223 on: 12/11/2017 09:58:40 »
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 00:14:53
Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/11/2017 22:53:37
There isn't any physics to attack.
bs
There is plenty of bs, but no physics.
Please address at least one of those aspects.

And I'm going to keep asking this until you answer it:
How have you come to the conclusion that, though you don't actually understand basic science, you are somehow in the top 5%?
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« Reply #224 on: 12/11/2017 16:06:29 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 12/11/2017 09:58:40
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 00:14:53
Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/11/2017 22:53:37
There isn't any physics to attack.
bs
There is plenty of bs, but no physics.
Please address at least one of those aspects.

And I'm going to keep asking this until you answer it:
How have you come to the conclusion that, though you don't actually understand basic science, you are somehow in the top 5%?


bs = though you don't actually understand basic science,
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« Reply #225 on: 12/11/2017 16:17:38 »
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 16:06:29
bs = though you don't actually understand basic science,

Would you like to try that in English?

Meanwhile, How have you come to the conclusion that, though you don't actually understand basic science, you are somehow in the top 5%?
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #226 on: 12/11/2017 16:27:34 »
Quote from: Thebox on 11/11/2017 22:34:48
You don't understand Physics that is why you are a chemist
And what are you? You certainly don't work in any science related field. Decorator wasn't it?
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« Reply #227 on: 12/11/2017 16:46:08 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 12/11/2017 16:27:34
Quote from: Thebox on 11/11/2017 22:34:48
You don't understand Physics that is why you are a chemist
And what are you? You certainly don't work in any science related field. Decorator wasn't it?
It's the all about me show , wow, discuss science or don't bother posting,
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« Reply #228 on: 12/11/2017 16:47:43 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 12/11/2017 16:17:38
Would you like to try that in English?
It was in English, want try to read without so much ambiguity?


I m a smart, remembering present information doesn't make a person smart. Enough said...
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« Reply #229 on: 12/11/2017 16:49:30 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 12/11/2017 03:35:25
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 00:15:48
Please provide reference of where I say that.

Here you are:

Quote from: Thebox on 11/11/2017 16:31:54
But when you own science contradicts your own model, it is time to look for an alternative model.

Quote from: Thebox on 11/11/2017 16:42:50
The field around a magnet is not and cannot be a single pole according to the contradiction of your own

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb%27s_law
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The law has been tested extensively, and all observations have upheld the law's principle.

This here says my first premise has call for questioning.

You and I both know likewise polarities mean expansion.   If all points of a field were likewise in polarity, the field will expand according to physical laws. If it doe snot expand then it is not a single pole field.

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''You'' are telling me a likewise field does not expand but on the other hand saying likewise repulses.

That is a contradiction.

It certainly sounds like you are saying that the currently-accepted model of electromagnetics contradicts itself. If that's not what you are saying, then good. The currently-accepted model explains existing phenomena, unlike your N-field which can't explain neutron-related phenomena and we are supposed to overlook that major flaw because you are an "amateur scientist" with a "young theory".

Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 00:23:25
communicate really? they can speak?

I'm using communication in its loosest sense. Communication is an exchange of information. I guess that means you don't think sign language is a form of communication, since you seem to think communication automatically implies speaking. Fields exchange information about the particles that generate them. That's what I meant by "communicate".

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Why do you ignore the actual theory and keep trying to defend present information?

When you say "the actual theory", are you talking about your N-field or about the currently-accepted model of matter? If you'll recall, I did address your theory and pointed out the holes in it regarding its inability to explain neutron-related phenomena. You responded by complaining about being an amateur scientist with a young theory. If you are going to acknowledge short-comings in your own ideas, then you need to be more humble about it instead of insisting that you've got the right idea and everyone else is wrong.

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If it were not polarity , all charge and energies would be likewise and not do anything.

You keep conflating the polarity of a field and the charge that generates the field. That's like saying that a rock dropped into a pool and the waves created by that rock are the same thing.
A positive or negative can not exist independently of each other.

Make a fist, open your fist sharply making a pfff sound as you do it, that is what likewise polarity energy does, it goes pfff and expands .
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #230 on: 12/11/2017 16:59:27 »
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 16:47:43
A positive or negative can not exist independently of each other.
You just broke the irony meter.

Anyway, How have you come to the conclusion that, though you don't actually understand basic science, you are somehow in the top 5%?
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #231 on: 12/11/2017 17:03:25 »
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 16:46:08

Quote from: Thebox on 11/11/2017 22:34:48
You don't understand Physics that is why you are a chemist

It's the all about me show , wow, discuss science or don't bother posting,

Which do you mean?
Should you stick to the science (if you can find some)  or should you pass rude comments about me being a chemist
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #232 on: 12/11/2017 17:36:23 »
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 16:49:30
A positive or negative can not exist independently of each other.

Sure they can. Cathode ray tubes separate electrons from their atoms quite readily. You can prove that they are negatively-charged by the way they react to magnetic fields: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode_ray

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Make a fist, open your fist sharply making a pfff sound as you do it, that is what likewise polarity energy does, it goes pfff and expands .

You've yet to demonstrate that such a thing actually happens in real life.
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« Reply #233 on: 12/11/2017 18:09:12 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 12/11/2017 17:36:23
You've yet to demonstrate that such a thing actually happens in real life.
Likewise polarities repulse
likewise polarities can not exist without opposite polarites
Q.F.S is real and can be shown with magnets.
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« Reply #234 on: 12/11/2017 19:21:43 »
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 18:09:12
likewise polarities can not exist without opposite polarites
Except, as has been pointed out, they do.

Anyway, How have you come to the conclusion that, though you don't actually understand basic science, you are somehow in the top 5%?
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« Reply #235 on: 12/11/2017 21:53:20 »
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Except, as has been pointed out, they do.
The repulsion would not allow the existence
Coulumb's law shows this
Likewise can not exist itself.
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« Reply #236 on: 12/11/2017 21:59:43 »
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 21:53:20
Coulumb's law shows this
No it doesn't.
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Likewise can not exist itself.
If you stop torturing the language like that it will be possible for us to know what you mean.
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The repulsion would not allow the existence
Reality does not agree with you, as illustrated by, for example, the CRT.
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #237 on: 12/11/2017 23:03:05 »
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 18:09:12
Likewise polarities repulse
likewise polarities can not exist without opposite polarites
Q.F.S is real and can be shown with magnets.

So how do you explain the existence of cathode rays?
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« Reply #238 on: 12/11/2017 23:17:33 »
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Likewise polarities repulse
likewise polarities can not exist without opposite polarites
Q.F.S is real and can be shown with magnets.

So how do you explain the existence of cathode rays?
Ions maybe, I am not really familiar with a Cathode ray nor how a CRT screen works.  Why not try answering some of my questions for a change instead of asking me questions.

If you took an imaginary ball of positive polarity energy in your hand and squeezed it , it would have an opposing force?
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« Reply #239 on: 13/11/2017 01:20:47 »
Quote from: Thebox on 12/11/2017 23:17:33
Ions maybe, I am not really familiar with a Cathode ray nor how a CRT screen works.

It was actually hypothesized at one point that cathode rays were composed of ions, but that was falsified when the mass of cathode rays was measured and found to be about 1,800 times lighter than even hydrogen atoms. The mass was measured by the degree to which the rays were deflected by electrically-charged plates.

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If you took an imaginary ball of positive polarity energy in your hand and squeezed it , it would have an opposing force?

No. You can't squeeze energy.
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