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Re: The N-field
« Reply #580 on: 27/02/2018 20:49:07 »
Quote from: Thebox on 27/02/2018 19:41:53
However, I think I have just explained it very well with my short explanation?

Well, you are wrong.
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« Reply #581 on: 27/02/2018 21:15:07 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/02/2018 20:49:07
Quote from: Thebox on 27/02/2018 19:41:53
However, I think I have just explained it very well with my short explanation?

Well, you are wrong.
Dear Sir, I am still awaiting your explanation of your disapproval.   You have not explained your premise for argument of why my logical reasoning and explained facts fail .   You have neither shown any inconsistencies with my findings, compared to present information. 
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #582 on: 27/02/2018 21:31:59 »
Quote from: Thebox on 26/02/2018 19:41:29
Well actually the stuff inside of an electron is space, the shell is likewise to itself.
Ignoring the fact that " the shell is likewise to itself."is incomprehensible, there's another problem.
Eelctrons don't have shells. They are points as far as any measurement is concerned.
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #583 on: 27/02/2018 21:33:43 »
Quote from: Thebox on 26/02/2018 10:48:43
It is an atomic field of two opposite polarities a and b

You have yet to explain what an "atomic field" is, never mind explain what evidence there is for it.
And, much the same is true of your use of teh word polarity.
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #584 on: 27/02/2018 21:35:06 »
Quote from: Thebox on 26/02/2018 20:18:30
Existing because they are in a n-field.
You have provided no evidence for the existence of this field.
Nor have you explained what it actually is, or does.
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #585 on: 27/02/2018 21:36:21 »
Quote from: Thebox on 25/02/2018 17:58:14
the common factor being polarity, we only need to look at a and b.
Again, you have not explained what you mean by "polarity".
Your use of it rules out the conventional meanings.
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« Reply #586 on: 27/02/2018 21:37:14 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/02/2018 21:31:59
Quote from: Thebox on 26/02/2018 19:41:29
Well actually the stuff inside of an electron is space, the shell is likewise to itself.
Ignoring the fact that " the shell is likewise to itself."is incomprehensible, there's another problem.
Eelctrons don't have shells. They are points as far as any measurement is concerned.

If something has dimensions, it can be point like but cannot be a point.   An electron is a point like particle that the physics suggests , with a hollow core.
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #587 on: 27/02/2018 21:39:34 »
Quote from: Thebox on 25/02/2018 18:02:46
All e-  ∈  {R³} 
Does not make sense.
Electrons are a member of the set of subatomic particles, or the set of words derived from Greek or the set of very small things.
But they are not an element of of R3
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« Reply #588 on: 27/02/2018 21:40:30 »
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the common factor being polarity, we only need to look at a and b.
Again, you have not explained what you mean by "polarity".
Your use of it rules out the conventional meanings.

A point like attraction or repulsion.
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #589 on: 27/02/2018 21:40:47 »
Quote from: Thebox on 27/02/2018 21:37:14
If something has dimensions, it can be point like but cannot be a point.   An electron is a point like particle that the physics suggests , with a hollow core

No proof exists that it has dimensions- that is the point.
So there's no evidence to suggest a shell with a hollow core.
You made that  up.
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« Reply #590 on: 27/02/2018 21:42:00 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/02/2018 21:39:34
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All e-  ∈  {R³} 
Does not make sense.
Electrons are a member of the set of subatomic particles, or the set of words derived from Greek or the set of very small things.
But they are not an element of of R3

They occupy R³ so are an element of R³  , R³ is our volume.
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #591 on: 27/02/2018 21:42:50 »
Quote from: Thebox on 27/02/2018 21:37:14
If something has dimensions, it can be point like but cannot be a point.   An electron is a point like particle that the physics suggests , with a hollow core.

What experiment showed the electron to have a hollow core?
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #592 on: 27/02/2018 21:43:39 »
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Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/02/2018 21:36:21
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the common factor being polarity, we only need to look at a and b.
Again, you have not explained what you mean by "polarity".
Your use of it rules out the conventional meanings.

A point like attraction or repulsion.
If you go through your posts and replace "polarity" by " "A point like attraction or repulsion. "
They still don't mean anything.
Apart from anything else, the phrase itself is meaningless.
An a traction has a direction a point does not.
So an attraction can not be point like.


I'm not finding any difficulty in backing up my claim that you have been posting nonsense.
How are you doing with backing up your claim that it is very well explained?
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #593 on: 27/02/2018 21:44:57 »
Quote from: Thebox on 27/02/2018 21:42:00
They occupy R³ so are an element of R³  , R³ is our volume.

No the things that are members of R3 are essentially locations rather than physical things.
I may be in Birmingham, but I am not Birmingham.
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« Reply #594 on: 27/02/2018 21:45:50 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/02/2018 21:40:47
Quote from: Thebox on 27/02/2018 21:37:14
If something has dimensions, it can be point like but cannot be a point.   An electron is a point like particle that the physics suggests , with a hollow core

No proof exists that it has dimensions- that is the point.
So there's no evidence to suggest a shell with a hollow core.
You made that  up.

Dear Sir , I have not made anything up.  In a R³ space that had a volume element, an inner product that was constructed of likewise electrostatic points, all the points would expand to leave a hollow void in the core.
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #595 on: 27/02/2018 21:47:28 »
Quote from: Thebox on 26/02/2018 18:53:08
Now the only reason the radius remains is because of the rod.
There is no circle or curve in the diagram to have a radius.
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« Reply #596 on: 27/02/2018 21:48:30 »
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They occupy R³ so are an element of R³  , R³ is our volume.

No the things that are members of R3 are essentially locations rather than physical things.
I may be in Birmingham, but I am not Birmingham.
You are not far from me, I live M6 North from you, Stoke. 


Do you agree there is physical things in a R³ space?   
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« Reply #597 on: 27/02/2018 21:51:06 »
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Now the only reason the radius remains is because of the rod.
There is no circle or curve in the diagram to have a radius.
You are correct, I should of said distance or length.
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #598 on: 27/02/2018 21:51:11 »
Quote from: Thebox on 27/02/2018 21:45:50
likewise electrostatic points
Again- gibberish.
What do you actually mean by this?
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Re: The N-field
« Reply #599 on: 27/02/2018 21:52:11 »
Quote from: Thebox on 27/02/2018 21:45:50
In a R³ space that had a volume element, an inner product that was constructed of likewise electrostatic points, all the points would expand to leave a hollow void in the core.

What experiment demonstrated that electrons have volume?
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