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Recurring Themes in Thread Content, does it mean anything ?
« on: 06/10/2017 04:53:00 »
The trouble with this forum is the fact that it raises more questions than it answers. Many threads seem to hit upon similar areas. I know one thread can spark another, by way of themes raised. Also i know everyones unhappy with quantum theory, but it works. Theres no smoke without fire, and there are lots of statements that point to different views of things.

 The areas of reocurrence, and even though perfectly satisfactory scientific explinations are made, these things seem to reoccour, 

 the aether, or fields permiating entire space, aparently denounced and then sugested by einstein ?! Does this suggest that the aether is somehow real ?

Light being somehow repeatedly questioned about its speed and how to measure  it,  i know that examples of experiment are given, but questions such as "a space ship passing at opposites to a light beam breaks the spead of light limit" seems to suggest some sort of base velocity and kinetic energy of matter, that does not hold with relativity. It also seems to suggest that light is somehow bound in someway we do not understand. After all who would have thought up partice pairing "Teleportation"
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Re: Recurring Themes in Thread Content, does it mean anything ?
« Reply #1 on: 06/10/2017 20:43:44 »
I think there is something inherently romantic about the concept of an aether. It appeals to human intuition that waves require a medium to move through, so armchair theorists looking for new physics like to invoke it. I have a small collection of books from my high school days about perpetual motion and free energy where aether is mentioned quite a lot. It often straddled the borders of "New Age" territory about vibrations and other planes of existence and all that stuff. There are fields permeating all of space due to both quantum vacuum fluctuations and from the ordinary matter that occupies it.

The question of relativity and the constancy of the speed of light usually come about due to the difficulty many people have in understanding them (myself included at times). The idea that light is always measured in a vacuum to travel at the same speed, even if you are approaching the beam head-on in a high-speed spaceship, is hard to square with common sense. You need to know how space and time are distorted in order to "get it". So a lot of people have trouble understanding it.
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Re: Recurring Themes in Thread Content, does it mean anything ?
« Reply #2 on: 07/10/2017 21:02:36 »
You are quite correct in that the same questions keep popping up on this forum.

It is undoubtedly due to the fact that different people come across the same puzzling questions, time after time.
- Perpetual motion machines & thermodynamics
- Relativity and the apparent paradoxes it causes (including the fact that there may be more than one "right" answer).
- Some people can learn from the pointers provided, and some people just get "stuck" on the same questions; it takes a bit of effort to learn more about science.

Unfortunately, I often have trouble finding a link to the previous discussion I had seen on the same topic, so I find it hard to provide a quick link.

Fortunately:
- some of the questions change over time, as new discoveries raise new topics of interest
- some of the answers change over time - for example, 3 gravitational wave detectors can now localize the source of a gravitational wave event, which wasn't the case with earlier detections (2 detectors).
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Re: Recurring Themes in Thread Content, does it mean anything ?
« Reply #3 on: 08/10/2017 03:05:30 »
Both answers raise the idea of the pepetual motion, but this seems ro point the probability that one of these "pepetual motion" machines can harness some concept ie the capiliary machine, and generate energy. Is there not something in this ? My take on capiliary action is it is not fast enough to meet our requirements. But if one of these can be harnessed in a satisfactory way, it would be good.  It seems like one of these fantabulous machines could combine  at somestage  with a set of cicumstamce to generate energy. If the earth circles the sun and something circles the earth  it seems to me there must be energy to be gained there by playing off the sun, much like the geosyncronos orbit, that must be impossible. (I know its not , do not tell me its not impossible, i already accept it )

I suppose these things realy lean upon what we do not understand yet, like gravity.
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