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The dark planet theory?
« on: 02/11/2017 15:28:06 »
    The Dark Planet Theory.

    I've put a lot of considerable time and thought into this theory, in reality, I think the theory works, but I welcome your criticism and questions.

    Key points;
    • Dark matter/ energy accounts for around 95.1% of the matter/energy within the universe.
    • Visible matter/energy accounts for around 4.9%.

    Dark matter vs visible matter in the universal creation of things.

    As we already know the universal creation of things is propagated by visible matter, this matter, in turn, creating the stars, the planets and nebulae. Along with energy, they are the dominant construction materials of the universe as we know it, in respect of this the universe is known to hold 98% visible objects, black holes account for the invisible 2% of objects.

    My theory is to put forth the idea of an alternate construction of material things, therefore in my theory, the visible matter isn't the only building block of the universe, and thus I put forward the idea of dark planets.

    What are dark planets?

    Well, in reality, they are the exact same as visible planets, though invisible and governed by the forces of dark matter. They formed in the exact same way as other planets like earth, just they grow at an exponential rate, due mainly in part to the abundance of dark matter within the local planetary area. These planets are likely to be abundant throughout the universe.

    What are the characteristics of dark planets?

    The characteristics of dark planets are as follows;

    • Dark planets are gaseous in nature.
    • They are fairly light but contain a considerable amount of mass.
    • Always gas giants due to the abundance of dark matter.
    • They exert a considerable amount of gravity.
    • Remote ecliptic orbit.
    How do dark planets affect other planets in orbit around a star?

    Due to the nature of a dark planet and the amount of gravity they exert on the planets around them they disrupt the orbits of objects over a greater amount of distance than other planets. Therefore they can periodically exert a greater amount gravitational force over millions of years capable of disrupting the orbits of objects in the solar system they inhabit. This periodic disruption would subsequently affect the planets general ecosystem to an extent where the planets temperature and gravitational field would be disrupted for a short amount of time, in cosmic terms this could be for thousands of years.

    For example, if Earth was being disrupted by the gravitational pull of a dark planet, over millions of years this would culminate in temperature shifts that would plunge the Earth into a cold spell, better known as an ice age. Therefore existing life would need to evolve other time to best be able to cope with the ice age. This disrupting force could last for anything from a thousand years to millions of years.

    Could planet 9 be a dark planet?

    After the announcement of a 9th planet possibly inhabiting a trans-Neptunian orbit, I was immediately drawn to the perturbed remoteness of the hypothetical planet. This leads me to wonder if the 9th planet in our solar system would be a dark planet. Further evidence of this may contribute to the lack of direct sightings of planet 9, for such a hypothetically large planet it would be rather obvious that we should have found it by now. The fact we haven't found it yet leads me to believe that my theory in a sense may be right.
    Dark planets are characterised by the fact they are made of invisible matter and therefore they would be conducted by today's technology, and thus if planet 9 was a dark planet we would be quite far from detecting it now, other evidence for this may be;
    • Planet 9 has a remote orbit, so would a dark planet.
    • Planet 9 is estimated to be larger than earth, dark planets are considerably much larger than earth.
    • Planet 9 is said to disrupt objects in a particular way, so would a dark planet.

    This will be revised just as soon as I'm able, this version is a preliminary version.

    If you have any questions please ask, also feel free to disprove my theory. We can all learn from that.

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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #1 on: 02/11/2017 19:33:42 »
    Could you fill us in a little more about this 9th planet? Links to discussions, circumstantial evidence, etc.?
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #2 on: 02/11/2017 23:36:24 »
    Dark matter could form planets, stars, galaxies or even living things if the type you are positing is "mirror matter". Mirror matter behaves exactly the same way as normal matter, except that it would interact with normal matter only through the gravitational force.* This would make mirror matter invisible and intangible. However, if all dark matter was composed of mirror matter, we would expect it to be distributed in a similar way to normal matter throughout galaxies, which would cause the galaxy rotation curves to be different than we observe them to be. So although some dark matter might be mirror matter, much of it is likely of a form that is diffuse and does not condense readily into things like planets.

    See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_matter

    *It could also theoretically interact via the electromagnetic force on a very weak scale by the process of photon-mirror photon mixing.
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #3 on: 03/11/2017 01:34:42 »
    I didn't really want to comment because of the effort put into the post.  But when there is no visible light all matter is dark matter.

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    As we already know the universal creation of things is propagated by visible matter,

    I am sorry , it is not visible matter, it is visible light.   all matter is dark matter when there is not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation .

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    What are dark planets?

     not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation


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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #4 on: 03/11/2017 04:27:55 »
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 01:34:42
    I didn't really want to comment because of the effort put into the post.  But when there is no visible light all matter is dark matter.

    I am sorry , it is not visible matter, it is visible light.   all matter is dark matter when there is not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation .

    not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation

    He's not talking about normal matter that is dark, he's talking about the cause of the galactic rotation curve anomaly. That form of dark matter does not absorb or reflect light. It is invisible. If you were to shine a beam of light on it, the light would pass right through (regardless of what wavelength of light you are using).
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #5 on: 03/11/2017 13:08:35 »
    Quote from: Kryptid on 03/11/2017 04:27:55
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 01:34:42
    I didn't really want to comment because of the effort put into the post.  But when there is no visible light all matter is dark matter.

    I am sorry , it is not visible matter, it is visible light.   all matter is dark matter when there is not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation .

    not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation

    He's not talking about normal matter that is dark, he's talking about the cause of the galactic rotation curve anomaly. That form of dark matter does not absorb or reflect light. It is invisible. If you were to shine a beam of light on it, the light would pass right through (regardless of what wavelength of light you are using).
    Dark  energy is invisible, dark energy is the dark matter which of  course in reality is just electromagnetic radiation, i.e it is invisible.  Dark matter is objects without illumination, like normal the semantics stinks.
    Yes again science have made mountains out of a mole hill and giving different meanings to the same thing.
    The Universe is expanding because of EMR , not because of some dark matter or dark energy.


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    Rules of thermodynamics, a body gaining more energy will expand it's field, as the field expands it weakens in magnitude in accordance with the inverse square law. i.e the moon is expanding its field that makes it move away from the earth .

    Q.F.E - quantum field expansion.
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #6 on: 03/11/2017 14:26:35 »
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 13:08:35
    Quote from: Kryptid on 03/11/2017 04:27:55
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 01:34:42
    I didn't really want to comment because of the effort put into the post.  But when there is no visible light all matter is dark matter.

    I am sorry , it is not visible matter, it is visible light.   all matter is dark matter when there is not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation .

    not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation

    He's not talking about normal matter that is dark, he's talking about the cause of the galactic rotation curve anomaly. That form of dark matter does not absorb or reflect light. It is invisible. If you were to shine a beam of light on it, the light would pass right through (regardless of what wavelength of light you are using).
    Dark  energy is invisible, dark energy is the dark matter which of  course in reality is just electromagnetic radiation, i.e it is invisible.  Dark matter is objects without illumination, like normal the semantics stinks.
    Yes again science have made mountains out of a mole hill and giving different meanings to the same thing.
    The Universe is expanding because of EMR , not because of some dark matter or dark energy.


    82360994042bcfb6e3fb431b607ea5a9.gif=>4/3 πr³

    info: The universal warming not just global.

    added- damn I got myself started now on the subject.

    Rules of thermodynamics, a body gaining more energy will expand it's field, as the field expands it weakens in magnitude in accordance with the inverse square law. i.e the moon is expanding its field that makes it move away from the earth .

    Q.F.E - quantum field expansion.
    What is that equation suppose to mean?

    Can you explain what each operator stands for and exactly what the equation expresses? Can you explain the exact reasoning for placing each operator where it is in the equation?
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #7 on: 03/11/2017 14:32:11 »
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    But when there is no visible light all matter is dark matter.


    Dark matter is completely different to visible matter, for example, visible matter is visible through all spectrums and wavelengths whereas dark matter is not.

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    dark energy is the dark matter which of  course in reality is just electromagnetic radiation

    I would also like to point out that electromagnetic radiation is visible as part of the electromagnetic spectrum, therefore dark energy/matter is not visible and thus it is not part of the electromagnetic spectrum.
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    « Reply #8 on: 03/11/2017 14:45:02 »
    Quote from: atbsphotography on 03/11/2017 14:32:11
    I would also like to point out that electromagnetic radiation is visible as part of the electromagnetic spectrum,
    it's not visible between masses, it is a dark energy such as the earths magnetic field. You can't observe it but it is there. If the earths magnetic field was to expand it would weaken in accordance to the inverse square law.  If it expanded it would push the moon away.
    Global warming is increasing the energy retained in the earth and the moon is moving away from the earth in a state of expansion.

    The dark energy and dark matter you are referring to , is made up and does not exist. 
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #9 on: 03/11/2017 14:46:06 »
    Quote from: Bogie_smiles on 02/11/2017 19:33:42
    Could you fill us in a little more about this 9th planet? Links to discussions, circumstantial evidence, etc.?

    I'd be happy to;

    http://www.caltech.edu/news/caltech-researchers-find-evidence-real-ninth-planet-49523
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #10 on: 03/11/2017 14:47:19 »
    Quote from: The Spoon on 03/11/2017 14:26:35
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 13:08:35
    Quote from: Kryptid on 03/11/2017 04:27:55
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 01:34:42
    I didn't really want to comment because of the effort put into the post.  But when there is no visible light all matter is dark matter.

    I am sorry , it is not visible matter, it is visible light.   all matter is dark matter when there is not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation .

    not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation

    He's not talking about normal matter that is dark, he's talking about the cause of the galactic rotation curve anomaly. That form of dark matter does not absorb or reflect light. It is invisible. If you were to shine a beam of light on it, the light would pass right through (regardless of what wavelength of light you are using).
    Dark  energy is invisible, dark energy is the dark matter which of  course in reality is just electromagnetic radiation, i.e it is invisible.  Dark matter is objects without illumination, like normal the semantics stinks.
    Yes again science have made mountains out of a mole hill and giving different meanings to the same thing.
    The Universe is expanding because of EMR , not because of some dark matter or dark energy.


    82360994042bcfb6e3fb431b607ea5a9.gif=>4/3 πr³

    info: The universal warming not just global.

    added- damn I got myself started now on the subject.

    Rules of thermodynamics, a body gaining more energy will expand it's field, as the field expands it weakens in magnitude in accordance with the inverse square law. i.e the moon is expanding its field that makes it move away from the earth .

    Q.F.E - quantum field expansion.
    What is that equation suppose to mean?

    Can you explain what each operator stands for and exactly what the equation expresses? Can you explain the exact reasoning for placing each operator where it is in the equation?
    Do you not know maths at all?

    +hf is high frequency gain  divided by entropy (S) which is equal to a spherical field radius increase.
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #11 on: 03/11/2017 14:51:16 »
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 14:45:02
    Quote from: atbsphotography on 03/11/2017 14:32:11
    I would also like to point out that electromagnetic radiation is visible as part of the electromagnetic spectrum,
    it's not visible between masses, it is a dark energy such as the earths magnetic field. You can't observe it but it is there. If the earths magnetic field was to expand it would weaken in accordance to the inverse square law.  If it expanded it would push the moon away.
    Global warming is increasing the energy retained in the earth and the moon is moving away from the earth in a state of expansion.

    The dark energy and dark matter you are referring to , is made up and does not exist.

    I would like to point out that as much as we don't see magnetic fields ourselves they can be observed, the same way you can observe the magnetic field of a pair of magnets.

    That is why it is called a theory, how would you explain the extra mass in the universe if it wasn't something we could see? Hence the thought of dark matter/energy.
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    « Reply #12 on: 03/11/2017 14:54:44 »
    Quote from: atbsphotography on 03/11/2017 14:51:16
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 14:45:02
    Quote from: atbsphotography on 03/11/2017 14:32:11
    I would also like to point out that electromagnetic radiation is visible as part of the electromagnetic spectrum,
    it's not visible between masses, it is a dark energy such as the earths magnetic field. You can't observe it but it is there. If the earths magnetic field was to expand it would weaken in accordance to the inverse square law.  If it expanded it would push the moon away.
    Global warming is increasing the energy retained in the earth and the moon is moving away from the earth in a state of expansion.

    The dark energy and dark matter you are referring to , is made up and does not exist.

    I would like to point out that as much as we don't see magnetic fields ourselves they can be observed, the same way you can observe the magnetic field of a pair of magnets.

    That is why it is called a theory, how would you explain the extra mass in the universe if it wasn't something we could see? Hence the thought of dark matter/energy.

    What extra mass in the universe?  Dark matter and dark energy are ''god theories'',   the belief of existence not being any sort of proof of an existence.   You can observe the affects of magnetic fields, you can increase the magnitude of a magnetic field and make objects expand away from the source.

    >M=>r where M is magnitude and r is radius.

    P.S Q.D.F   (quantum dynamic fields)

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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #13 on: 03/11/2017 14:58:14 »
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 14:47:19
    Quote from: The Spoon on 03/11/2017 14:26:35
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 13:08:35
    Quote from: Kryptid on 03/11/2017 04:27:55
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 01:34:42
    I didn't really want to comment because of the effort put into the post.  But when there is no visible light all matter is dark matter.

    I am sorry , it is not visible matter, it is visible light.   all matter is dark matter when there is not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation .

    not enough intensity and magnitude of electromagnetic radiation

    He's not talking about normal matter that is dark, he's talking about the cause of the galactic rotation curve anomaly. That form of dark matter does not absorb or reflect light. It is invisible. If you were to shine a beam of light on it, the light would pass right through (regardless of what wavelength of light you are using).
    Dark  energy is invisible, dark energy is the dark matter which of  course in reality is just electromagnetic radiation, i.e it is invisible.  Dark matter is objects without illumination, like normal the semantics stinks.
    Yes again science have made mountains out of a mole hill and giving different meanings to the same thing.
    The Universe is expanding because of EMR , not because of some dark matter or dark energy.


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    info: The universal warming not just global.

    added- damn I got myself started now on the subject.

    Rules of thermodynamics, a body gaining more energy will expand it's field, as the field expands it weakens in magnitude in accordance with the inverse square law. i.e the moon is expanding its field that makes it move away from the earth .

    Q.F.E - quantum field expansion.
    What is that equation suppose to mean?

    Can you explain what each operator stands for and exactly what the equation expresses? Can you explain the exact reasoning for placing each operator where it is in the equation?
    Do you not know maths at all?

    +hf is high frequency gain  divided by entropy (S) which is equal to a spherical field radius increase.
    I do know some maths yes (I wouldnt claim to know all maths however). Writing an equation without showing what operators stand for and expecting people to guess exactly what you mean  is pointless. Howe are we to know that for example Hf is high frequency and S is entropy.

    You have also failed to explain the workings of this equation and how exactly it relates to any concept or theory. For example why +hf? Why > on the right side of the equation? When you say Hf, high frequency what? High frequency is not in itself a thing it is a relative description. ? This is known as trying to blag it.
    « Last Edit: 03/11/2017 15:00:55 by The Spoon »
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #14 on: 03/11/2017 15:00:14 »
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 14:54:44
    Quote from: atbsphotography on 03/11/2017 14:51:16
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 14:45:02
    Quote from: atbsphotography on 03/11/2017 14:32:11
    I would also like to point out that electromagnetic radiation is visible as part of the electromagnetic spectrum,
    it's not visible between masses, it is a dark energy such as the earths magnetic field. You can't observe it but it is there. If the earths magnetic field was to expand it would weaken in accordance to the inverse square law.  If it expanded it would push the moon away.
    Global warming is increasing the energy retained in the earth and the moon is moving away from the earth in a state of expansion.

    The dark energy and dark matter you are referring to , is made up and does not exist.

    I would like to point out that as much as we don't see magnetic fields ourselves they can be observed, the same way you can observe the magnetic field of a pair of magnets.

    That is why it is called a theory, how would you explain the extra mass in the universe if it wasn't something we could see? Hence the thought of dark matter/energy.

    What extra mass in the universe?  Dark matter and dark energy are ''god theories'',   the belief of existence not being any sort of proof of an existence.   You can observe the affects of magnetic fields, you can increase the magnitude of a magnetic field and make objects expand away from the source.

    >M=>r where M is magnitude and r is radius.

    P.S Q.D.F   (quantum dynamic fields)

    Does this explain it clearly enough TheBox;

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    Unlike normal matter, dark matter does not interact with the electromagnetic force. This means it does not absorb, reflect or emit light, making it extremely hard to spot. In fact, researchers have been able to infer the existence of dark matter only from the gravitational effect it seems to have on visible matter. Dark matter seems to outweigh visible matter roughly six to one, making up about 27% of the universe. Here's a sobering fact: The matter we know and that makes up all stars and galaxies only accounts for 5% of the content of the universe! But what is dark matter? One idea is that it could contain "supersymmetric particles" – hypothesized particles that are partners to those already known in the Standard Model.
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #15 on: 03/11/2017 15:03:35 »
    Quote from: The Spoon on 03/11/2017 14:58:14
    This is known as trying to blag it.
    Of course, I am trying to blag it and be a fake scientist, however I do understand in my own head what the maths stands for. Hf is the normal representation of high frequency and S is normally entropy , the surface/volume of a sphere is standard maths and the greater than and less than signs are standard.

    I had already worked out before that :

    Kmax =04d0b44d6409015e2fac61828d407233.gif  at the speed of light c.

    So by blagging it, I am just hoping to impress somebody such as a scientist who might give me a hand with my notions and help correct my maths if they are at error to begin with.

    Is that the answer you wanted?

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    « Reply #16 on: 03/11/2017 15:06:42 »
    Quote from: atbsphotography on 03/11/2017 15:00:14
    Unlike normal matter, dark matter does not interact with the electromagnetic force.
    To be honest and objective mate , no. 

    You have just said in reality :

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    Unlike normal matter, this none existent  matter does not interact with the electromagnetic force.
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #17 on: 03/11/2017 15:09:34 »
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 15:06:42
    Quote from: atbsphotography on 03/11/2017 15:00:14
    Unlike normal matter, dark matter does not interact with the electromagnetic force.
    To be honest and objective mate , no. 

    You have just said in reality :

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    Unlike normal matter, this none existent  matter does not interact with the electromagnetic force.

    I should point out that came from the CERN website so I should think they know a bit more than you don't you think?

    https://home.cern/about/physics/dark-matter
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    « Reply #18 on: 03/11/2017 15:14:37 »
    Quote from: atbsphotography on 03/11/2017 15:09:34
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 15:06:42
    Quote from: atbsphotography on 03/11/2017 15:00:14
    Unlike normal matter, dark matter does not interact with the electromagnetic force.
    To be honest and objective mate , no. 

    You have just said in reality :

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    Unlike normal matter, this none existent  matter does not interact with the electromagnetic force.

    I should point out that came from the CERN website so I should think they know a bit more than you don't you think?

    https://home.cern/about/physics/dark-matter
    I should point out that they are saying the same thing,  their hypothesis at the best, ends at the first sentence.  They have no proof of dark energy or a dark matter existing.  They have some clever wording that makes the reader think they have proof, they talk about it as if they have proof when the reality is they do not .  So their idea ends at the first sentence.  The rest is subjective.
    They are saying something imaginary is expanding the universe.

    Dark energy and dark matter are of the imagination, electromagnetic fields or my n-field is not of the imagination.
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    Re: The dark planet theory?
    « Reply #19 on: 03/11/2017 15:21:01 »
    Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2017 15:03:35
    Quote from: The Spoon on 03/11/2017 14:58:14
    This is known as trying to blag it.
    Of course, I am trying to blag it and be a fake scientist, however I do understand in my own head what the maths stands for. Hf is the normal representation of high frequency and S is normally entropy , the surface/volume of a sphere is standard maths and the greater than and less than signs are standard.

    I had already worked out before that :

    Kmax =04d0b44d6409015e2fac61828d407233.gif  at the speed of light c.

    So by blagging it, I am just hoping to impress somebody such as a scientist who might give me a hand with my notions and help correct my maths if they are at error to begin with.

    Is that the answer you wanted?


    normal representation of high frequency means what? Can you explain the concept in simple terms? If not how is somebody going to help you otherwise? Why do you think you need maths to explain a theory? By trying to blag it you will not get anybody to take you seriously because it makes it patently obvious that you do not know what you are talking about.
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