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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #20 on: 01/02/2018 22:23:54 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/02/2018 20:43:07
Quote from: Thebox on 31/01/2018 13:14:03
And I think your as far as you know is ostensible.
I think I can parse it (based on the assumption that he just forgot that punctuation is important)
 He may have meant And I think your "as far as you know" is ostensible.

And I presume it refers to this "As far as we know, gravitational mass has no polarity."
I which case, it has a meaning, it's damned hard to find, and it's wrong.


Measuring two equal weights at once can only give a null result.  And thanks for correcting my punctuation.
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #21 on: 02/02/2018 18:48:47 »
Quote from: Thebox on 01/02/2018 22:23:54
Measuring two equal weights at once can only give a null result. 
I have two sets of bathroom scales. If I stand on both of them I can weigh my left half and my right half.
The answer isn't zero.

So your post isn't just irrelevant, it's also factually incorrect.
What purpose did you think it served?
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #22 on: 03/02/2018 10:58:21 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/02/2018 18:48:47
Quote from: Thebox on 01/02/2018 22:23:54
Measuring two equal weights at once can only give a null result.
I have two sets of bathroom scales. If I stand on both of them I can weigh my left half and my right half.
The answer isn't zero.

So your post isn't just irrelevant, it's also factually incorrect.
What purpose did you think it served?

You really have a problem with reading.   A set of bathroom scales is not a set of pan scales.   
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #23 on: 03/02/2018 11:07:21 »
Quote from: evan_au on 31/01/2018 10:43:51
Quote from: TheBox
(matrices) is a pretty easy subject really, now I am using it
It helps if you learn to recognise 0 and 1 before you try to add.
It helps if you learn add before you try to multiply.
I suggest you get the basics right first!

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000     000   
000 +  000 = 0
000     000     
Congratulations! This is the first of your equations that made sense in a long time!
(I am charitably assuming that you meant the "0" on the right-hand side as a shorthand for a 3x3 null matrix, otherwise it is still gobbledygook...)

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my matrices are fields, positions in the field represented by numbers.
There is a gravitational field in the Solar System, with the Sun and the planets.
I would like to see the 3x3 matrix which describes the Solar System.

There is an electrical field around my 1.5 volt battery.
I would like to see the 3x3 matrix which describes the battery.

There is a magnetic field around a horseshoe magnet.
I would like to see the 3x3 matrix which describes the magnetic field.

There is an atmospheric pressure field over my country.
I would like to see the 3x3 matrix which describes this aspect of the weather.

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polarity unifies all the above forces. Polarity is the force.
As far as we know, gravitational mass has no polarity.
Evan buddy, I have been doing abstraction math, that is why nobody understands it.
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #24 on: 03/02/2018 11:59:34 »
Quote from: Thebox on 03/02/2018 10:58:21
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/02/2018 18:48:47
Quote from: Thebox on 01/02/2018 22:23:54
Measuring two equal weights at once can only give a null result.
I have two sets of bathroom scales. If I stand on both of them I can weigh my left half and my right half.
The answer isn't zero.

So your post isn't just irrelevant, it's also factually incorrect.
What purpose did you think it served?

You really have a problem with reading.   A set of bathroom scales is not a set of pan scales.   
I have a problem reading your mind.
You never said anything about what sort of scales.


You need to stop assuming that you are right.
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #25 on: 03/02/2018 12:01:07 »
Quote from: Thebox on 03/02/2018 11:07:21
Evan buddy, I have been doing abstraction math, that is why nobody understands it.


Do you mean abstract maths or mathematical abstraction?
Or were you just stringing "sciency sounding" words together?
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #26 on: 03/02/2018 12:02:56 »
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Quote from: Thebox on 03/02/2018 11:07:21
Evan buddy, I have been doing abstraction math, that is why nobody understands it.


Do you mean abstract maths or mathematical abstraction?
Or were you just stringing "sciency sounding" words together?

Mathematical abstraction, very difficult to understand as well.   
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #27 on: 03/02/2018 12:09:22 »
(q1+q2)=n→←(q1+q2)=n

(q1+q2)=n←→(q1+q2)=n

Mathematical abstraction can and does explain gravity mechanism in my honest opinion.   Whether you could ever understand this though, well...!

I was nether stupid I was just doing things differently.

[000]→←[000] 

[000]←→[000] 

Gravity matrix

q represents polarity
the direction arrows represent vector force
each 0 in the matrice is a field space or an object ''space'' and is equal to n which is equal to 0.

q1+q2 matrice

[000]→←[000] 

The same as the gravity matrice but without repulsion until the merge.

ΔX=>f1+f2

For the above just simple imagine 2 spheres right next to each other, then expand any of the spheres , this will push the other sphere changing vector position.

added- My apologies to people reading this post who do not know what abstraction maths is, here is an explanation

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Abstraction in mathematics is the process of extracting the underlying essence of a mathematical concept, removing any dependence on real world objects with which it might originally have been connected, and generalizing it so that it has wider applications or matching among other abstract descriptions of equivalent ..

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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #28 on: 03/02/2018 12:41:37 »
+ve
↑
↓
-ve


I have so many that does gravity and all fits my work.

pushes back
↑
↓
g

A+B=C

C=N=0
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #29 on: 03/02/2018 12:47:21 »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D


* einstein.jpg (26.04 kB . 259x194 - viewed 4177 times)


Understand I see symbols as words, it is just a language,

added- Einstein wanted one equation, Gods equation, so did I.
  p.s had to add some drama lol

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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #30 on: 03/02/2018 13:15:50 »
A and B can turn into C and vice versus C can turn into A and B

E=mc²

Ohhhhhhh, if you split A and B you have , ohhhhhhhh, I think I finally understand E=mc² now


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E=(A+B)/F
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #31 on: 03/02/2018 13:58:32 »
Quote from: Thebox on 03/02/2018 12:02:56
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/02/2018 12:01:07
Quote from: Thebox on 03/02/2018 11:07:21
Evan buddy, I have been doing abstraction math, that is why nobody understands it.


Do you mean abstract maths or mathematical abstraction?
Or were you just stringing "sciency sounding" words together?

Mathematical abstraction, very difficult to understand as well.   
OK, thanks for clarifying.
Recognising that  there is a pattern to the following observations is mathematical abstraction.
If someone has 2 apples and you give them 2 more apples, they end up with 4 apples.
If they have two oranges and  someone gives them anther two oranges they end up with 4 oranges.
In general 2+2 =4

That's mathematical abstraction.
I see you find it difficult to understand

That explains a lot.
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #32 on: 03/02/2018 14:32:25 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/02/2018 13:58:32
Quote from: Thebox on 03/02/2018 12:02:56
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/02/2018 12:01:07
Quote from: Thebox on 03/02/2018 11:07:21
Evan buddy, I have been doing abstraction math, that is why nobody understands it.


Do you mean abstract maths or mathematical abstraction?
Or were you just stringing "sciency sounding" words together?

Mathematical abstraction, very difficult to understand as well.   
OK, thanks for clarifying.
Recognising that  there is a pattern to the following observations is mathematical abstraction.
If someone has 2 apples and you give them 2 more apples, they end up with 4 apples.
If they have two oranges and  someone gives them anther two oranges they end up with 4 oranges.
In general 2+2 =4

That's mathematical abstraction.
I see you find it difficult to understand

That explains a lot.

You do not need any values in abstraction maths.   

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Abstraction in mathematics is the process of extracting the underlying essence of a mathematical concept, removing any dependence on real world objects with which it might originally have been connected, and generalizing it so that it has wider applications

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A formal system or logical calculus is any well-defined system of abstract thought based on the model of mathematics. A formal system need not be mathematical as such;

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Simplification and ordering[edit]
Abstraction uses a strategy of simplification, wherein formerly concrete details are left ambiguous, vague, or undefined; thus effective communication about things in the abstract requires an intuitive or common experience between the communicator and the communication recipient. This is true for all verbal/abstract communication.


Maybe you need to understand this . 
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #33 on: 03/02/2018 14:39:31 »
Why do you keep saying " abstraction maths" rather than abstract maths?
It suggests you haven't actually read about it.
You certainly need some values, for example you need the identity elements for most operations- such as zero for addition and 1 for multiplication.
It's possible to do some maths without numbers, but you need numbers to get the more complete picture.

Also do you realise that "Abstraction in mathematics is the process of extracting the underlying essence of a mathematical concept, removing any dependence on real world objects with which it might originally have been connected, and generalizing it so that it has wider applications"
is exactly what I was doing when I took the fruit out of the discussion, and just left the arithmetic.
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #34 on: 03/02/2018 14:55:56 »
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Simplification and ordering[edit]
Abstraction uses a strategy of simplification, wherein formerly concrete details are left ambiguous, vague, or undefined; thus effective communication about things in the abstract requires an intuitive or common experience between the communicator and the communication recipient. This is true for all verbal/abstract communication.
Do you realise

Simplification and ordering[edit]
Abstraction uses a strategy of simplification, wherein formerly concrete details are left ambiguous, vague, or undefined; thus effective communication about things in the abstract requires an intuitive or common experience between the communicator and the communication recipient. This is true for all verbal/abstract communication.


I do not have to define values, I am attracting the symbols and using them appropriately to explain .  However I will consider what you have said and read more about abstraction maths.

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« Reply #35 on: 03/02/2018 17:19:28 »
You wanted a value

[000]+[000]=1


A mono-pole positive can not exist without a mono-pole negative, so it is nothing .   

Place these two nothings at 0 point simultaneously to create 1.

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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #36 on: 03/02/2018 17:30:31 »
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I am attracting the symbols and using them appropriately to explain .
Irony; much
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #37 on: 03/02/2018 17:31:49 »
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[000]+[000]=1
Not in any accepted use of those symbols.
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #38 on: 03/02/2018 19:10:25 »
Quote from: Thebox on 03/02/2018 12:47:21
;D ;D ;D ;D


* einstein.jpg (26.04 kB . 259x194 - viewed 4177 times)


Understand I see symbols as words, it is just a language,

added- Einstein wanted one equation, Gods equation, so did I.
  p.s had to add some drama lol

My favourite videos of all time





You post a ridiculous jpeg like that  and wonder why people do not take you seriously?
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Re: Can 2 opposite polarities occupy the same space?
« Reply #39 on: 03/02/2018 19:59:39 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/02/2018 17:31:49
Quote from: Thebox on 03/02/2018 17:19:28
[000]+[000]=1
Not in any accepted use of those symbols.

Its an abstraction it does not have to mean what the accepted symbols mean.
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