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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #40 on: 18/02/2018 22:01:47 »
You are right in saying I don't understand.
Nor does anyone else, as far as I can tell.
Whose fault is that?
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #41 on: 18/02/2018 23:03:23 »
Quote from: Thebox on 18/02/2018 18:53:59
space outside the box now occupied by the box.

Um, how can a box occupy space outside of itself?

I don't mean this to be rude, but it might help give me an understanding as to why people have trouble understanding you: is English your first language? Alternatively, might you have dyslexia or something related?
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #42 on: 18/02/2018 23:12:44 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/02/2018 22:01:47
You are right in saying I don't understand.
Nor does anyone else, as far as I can tell.
Whose fault is that?

Imagine a metal ball suspended by a force , field.  Now if we increased the strength of the field the field will become denser and the balls radius from the source will increase ,   so directly proportional to the invert, an increase in energy is an increase in density of the field directly proportional to the invert

ok?
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #43 on: 18/02/2018 23:15:17 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 18/02/2018 23:03:23
Quote from: Thebox on 18/02/2018 18:53:59
space outside the box now occupied by the box.

Um, how can a box occupy space outside of itself?

I don't mean this to be rude, but it might help give me an understanding as to why people have trouble understanding you: is English your first language? Alternatively, might you have dyslexia or something related?
Or maybe I am just not very good at explanation.  Answer to your question, think of a balloon expanding.
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #44 on: 19/02/2018 19:54:32 »
Quote from: Thebox on 18/02/2018 23:12:44
the balls radius from the source will increase
Says who?
Quote from: Thebox on 18/02/2018 23:15:17
Or maybe I am just not very good at explanation.
Let us know when something changes.
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #45 on: 19/02/2018 20:35:51 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 19/02/2018 19:54:32
Says who?
Say's the Universe.

The firmament which is dark matter which really is field density, is expanding.
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #46 on: 19/02/2018 20:42:39 »
If you do not believe me take a trip to the sun, at first time will slow down as the earths field weakens the more you travel away, then time will start to speed up as you get nearer the sun and the field density increase.  There is of course the eventuality time will be so fast your skin will just flake away and you will feel a horrible burning sensation.   
Now if the sun was to increase in output, the field density extends in radius, you would burn up much faster and earlier on in your journey.
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #47 on: 19/02/2018 21:28:18 »
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 20:42:39
If you do not believe me take a trip to the sun, at first time will slow down as the earths field weakens the more you travel away, then time will start to speed up as you get nearer the sun and the field density increase.  There is of course the eventuality time will be so fast your skin will just flake away and you will feel a horrible burning sensation.   
Now if the sun was to increase in output, the field density extends in radius, you would burn up much faster and earlier on in your journey.
That is absolute nonsense.
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #48 on: 19/02/2018 21:32:00 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:28:18
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 20:42:39
If you do not believe me take a trip to the sun, at first time will slow down as the earths field weakens the more you travel away, then time will start to speed up as you get nearer the sun and the field density increase.  There is of course the eventuality time will be so fast your skin will just flake away and you will feel a horrible burning sensation.   
Now if the sun was to increase in output, the field density extends in radius, you would burn up much faster and earlier on in your journey.
That is absolute nonsense.
Electromagnetic radiation does not need a medium to heat,  to be activated, this why astronauts where reflective space suits .

The astronaut travelling to the sun becomes the ''medium'' that reacts to the density of the field.   

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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #49 on: 19/02/2018 21:33:06 »
Quote from: Thebox on 18/02/2018 23:12:44
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/02/2018 22:01:47
You are right in saying I don't understand.
Nor does anyone else, as far as I can tell.
Whose fault is that?

Imagine a metal ball suspended by a force , field.  Now if we increased the strength of the field the field will become denser and the balls radius from the source will increase ,   so directly proportional to the invert, an increase in energy is an increase in density of the field directly proportional to the invert

ok?
That is also nonsense. Why do you use such bizarre phrases as 'proportional to the invert'? Why not use terms that are commonly accepted if you want people to understand you? Or is it the case that you dont want people to understand and you are just stringing them along with meaningless phrases in an attempt to maintain attention?
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #50 on: 19/02/2018 21:35:14 »
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:32:00
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:28:18
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 20:42:39
If you do not believe me take a trip to the sun, at first time will slow down as the earths field weakens the more you travel away, then time will start to speed up as you get nearer the sun and the field density increase.  There is of course the eventuality time will be so fast your skin will just flake away and you will feel a horrible burning sensation.   
Now if the sun was to increase in output, the field density extends in radius, you would burn up much faster and earlier on in your journey.
That is absolute nonsense.
Electromagnetic radiation does not need a medium to heat,  to be activated, this why astronauts where reflective space suits .

The astronaut travelling to the sun becomes the ''medium'' that reacts to the density of the field.   


'Where reflective spacesuits'? As Kryptid asked  - is English not your first language? It is not just that you are bad at explanation, your use of English is inept.
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #51 on: 19/02/2018 21:36:39 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:33:06
Quote from: Thebox on 18/02/2018 23:12:44
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/02/2018 22:01:47
You are right in saying I don't understand.
Nor does anyone else, as far as I can tell.
Whose fault is that?

Imagine a metal ball suspended by a force , field.  Now if we increased the strength of the field the field will become denser and the balls radius from the source will increase ,   so directly proportional to the invert, an increase in energy is an increase in density of the field directly proportional to the invert

ok?
That is also nonsense. Why do you use such bizarre phrases as 'proportional to the invert'? Why not use terms that are commonly accepted if you want people to understand you? Or is it the case that you dont want people to understand and you are just stringing them along with meaningless phrases in an attempt to maintain attention?

A typo because I am human, it should of said inverse.
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #52 on: 19/02/2018 21:39:40 »
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:36:39
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:33:06
Quote from: Thebox on 18/02/2018 23:12:44
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/02/2018 22:01:47
You are right in saying I don't understand.
Nor does anyone else, as far as I can tell.
Whose fault is that?

Imagine a metal ball suspended by a force , field.  Now if we increased the strength of the field the field will become denser and the balls radius from the source will increase ,   so directly proportional to the invert, an increase in energy is an increase in density of the field directly proportional to the invert

ok?
That is also nonsense. Why do you use such bizarre phrases as 'proportional to the invert'? Why not use terms that are commonly accepted if you want people to understand you? Or is it the case that you dont want people to understand and you are just stringing them along with meaningless phrases in an attempt to maintain attention?

A typo because I am human, it should of said inverse.

Still a nonsense phrase.
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #53 on: 19/02/2018 21:39:51 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:35:14
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:32:00
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:28:18
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 20:42:39
If you do not believe me take a trip to the sun, at first time will slow down as the earths field weakens the more you travel away, then time will start to speed up as you get nearer the sun and the field density increase.  There is of course the eventuality time will be so fast your skin will just flake away and you will feel a horrible burning sensation.   
Now if the sun was to increase in output, the field density extends in radius, you would burn up much faster and earlier on in your journey.
That is absolute nonsense.
Electromagnetic radiation does not need a medium to heat,  to be activated, this why astronauts where reflective space suits .

The astronaut travelling to the sun becomes the ''medium'' that reacts to the density of the field.   


'Where reflective spacesuits'? As Kryptid asked  - is English not your first language? It is not just that you are bad at explanation, your use of English is inept.
I am hardly going to concentrate on my grammar, on somebody whom may be trolling me. Did u nt no tha it does no mattr ow it is spelt hit cn be undrstud
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #54 on: 19/02/2018 21:41:11 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:39:40
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:36:39
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:33:06
Quote from: Thebox on 18/02/2018 23:12:44
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/02/2018 22:01:47
You are right in saying I don't understand.
Nor does anyone else, as far as I can tell.
Whose fault is that?

Imagine a metal ball suspended by a force , field.  Now if we increased the strength of the field the field will become denser and the balls radius from the source will increase ,   so directly proportional to the invert, an increase in energy is an increase in density of the field directly proportional to the invert

ok?
That is also nonsense. Why do you use such bizarre phrases as 'proportional to the invert'? Why not use terms that are commonly accepted if you want people to understand you? Or is it the case that you dont want people to understand and you are just stringing them along with meaningless phrases in an attempt to maintain attention?

A typo because I am human, it should of said inverse.

Still a nonsense phrase.
Maybe you need pictures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

try here i.e inverse
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #55 on: 19/02/2018 21:45:16 »
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:41:11
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:39:40
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:36:39
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:33:06
Quote from: Thebox on 18/02/2018 23:12:44
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/02/2018 22:01:47
You are right in saying I don't understand.
Nor does anyone else, as far as I can tell.
Whose fault is that?

Imagine a metal ball suspended by a force , field.  Now if we increased the strength of the field the field will become denser and the balls radius from the source will increase ,   so directly proportional to the invert, an increase in energy is an increase in density of the field directly proportional to the invert

ok?
That is also nonsense. Why do you use such bizarre phrases as 'proportional to the invert'? Why not use terms that are commonly accepted if you want people to understand you? Or is it the case that you dont want people to understand and you are just stringing them along with meaningless phrases in an attempt to maintain attention?

A typo because I am human, it should of said inverse.

Still a nonsense phrase.
Maybe you need pictures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

try here i.e inverse
So why the hell didnt you say proportional to the inverse square law which people would have understood? If you tried to concentrate a little bit more on your grammar and language in general people may just be able to understand you but instead you play loose with the English language, come up with nonsense phrases then use the excuse that peopel are 'trolling' you when they dont understand.
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #56 on: 19/02/2018 21:46:24 »
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:39:51
time will slow down as the earths field weakens the more you travel away, then time will start to speed up as you get nearer the sun and the field density increase.  There is of course the eventuality time will be so fast your skin will just flake away and you will feel a horrible burning sensation
This is of course nonsense and betrays a complete misunderstanding of physics if you really believe this.
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« Reply #57 on: 19/02/2018 21:51:32 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:45:16
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:41:11
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:39:40
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:36:39
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:33:06
Quote from: Thebox on 18/02/2018 23:12:44
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/02/2018 22:01:47
You are right in saying I don't understand.
Nor does anyone else, as far as I can tell.
Whose fault is that?

Imagine a metal ball suspended by a force , field.  Now if we increased the strength of the field the field will become denser and the balls radius from the source will increase ,   so directly proportional to the invert, an increase in energy is an increase in density of the field directly proportional to the invert

ok?
That is also nonsense. Why do you use such bizarre phrases as 'proportional to the invert'? Why not use terms that are commonly accepted if you want people to understand you? Or is it the case that you dont want people to understand and you are just stringing them along with meaningless phrases in an attempt to maintain attention?

A typo because I am human, it should of said inverse.

Still a nonsense phrase.
Maybe you need pictures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

try here i.e inverse
So why the hell didnt you say proportional to the inverse square law which people would have understood? If you tried to concentrate a little bit more on your grammar and language in general people may just be able to understand you but instead you play loose with the English language, come up with nonsense phrases then use the excuse that peopel are 'trolling' you when they dont understand.
I assume that any scientist would be smart enough to work out exactly what I was saying with my casual relaxed style of posts.  I am hardly writing a lecture speech or a scientific article in most threads.  You can see over in my N-field thread that I am improving, although I do admit I have some help and they are helping me improve .   
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #58 on: 19/02/2018 21:54:45 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:46:24
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:39:51
time will slow down as the earths field weakens the more you travel away, then time will start to speed up as you get nearer the sun and the field density increase.  There is of course the eventuality time will be so fast your skin will just flake away and you will feel a horrible burning sensation
This is of course nonsense and betrays a complete misunderstanding of physics if you really believe this.
Or it conveys a better understanding of physics.  Light intensity decreases inversely proportional to the square of the distance.   Why would you think that field density does not?
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Re: A gas problem?
« Reply #59 on: 19/02/2018 21:57:49 »
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:51:32
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:45:16
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:41:11
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:39:40
Quote from: Thebox on 19/02/2018 21:36:39
Quote from: The Spoon on 19/02/2018 21:33:06
Quote from: Thebox on 18/02/2018 23:12:44
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/02/2018 22:01:47
You are right in saying I don't understand.
Nor does anyone else, as far as I can tell.
Whose fault is that?

Imagine a metal ball suspended by a force , field.  Now if we increased the strength of the field the field will become denser and the balls radius from the source will increase ,   so directly proportional to the invert, an increase in energy is an increase in density of the field directly proportional to the invert

ok?
That is also nonsense. Why do you use such bizarre phrases as 'proportional to the invert'? Why not use terms that are commonly accepted if you want people to understand you? Or is it the case that you dont want people to understand and you are just stringing them along with meaningless phrases in an attempt to maintain attention?

A typo because I am human, it should of said inverse.

Still a nonsense phrase.
Maybe you need pictures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

try here i.e inverse
So why the hell didnt you say proportional to the inverse square law which people would have understood? If you tried to concentrate a little bit more on your grammar and language in general people may just be able to understand you but instead you play loose with the English language, come up with nonsense phrases then use the excuse that peopel are 'trolling' you when they dont understand.
I assume that any scientist would be smart enough to work out exactly what I was saying with my casual relaxed style of posts.  I am hardly writing a lecture speech or a scientific article in most threads.  You can see over in my N-field thread that I am improving, although I do admit I have some help and they are helping me improve .   
Why would they? If you provide incomplete information people will not understand, be they scientists or otherwise. Communication is about providing the correct information. You have stated that you have spent 10 years on forums. Has the penny not yet dropped that 'your relaxed, casual style' is not helping to communicate your ideas? It is you who wants to get your ideas across, people arent waiting with baited breath to hear them.

From what I have seen from the N-Field thread you are not really improving at all - you have just increase the amount of jargon.
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