[pasala (OP)]

Friends,

It is almost 400 year back that Newton first identified “Gravity”.  Basic question is why don’t the apple remain at the tree itself and what force is attracting the apple towards the Earth.

Einstein simply incorporated Gravity in his relativity.  Relativity says, due to velocity we can escape or transform away from Gravity temporarily.  Here escaping from gravity is ok.  But what about things facing this gravity. Effects of gravity is vast and it is having its roots in almost all the branches of science.  Unless we identify “effects” of gravity, progress in science is inconsistent or incomplete.

I don’t think there is any specific list, mentioned by Einstein which are undergoing gravity pressure.  As per Einstein anything that ever gains velocity loses gravity.   Here Einstein never mentioned about pressure of climate.  Suppose one person is standing at point A, and there is metal at point B and both are undergoing gravity pressure.  If both of them gains velocity, there is no bar and both of them loses gravity. 

Here, Einstein used his wristwatch as an instrument in measuring gravity.  He proved that time dilates due to gravity. 

Newton and Einstein both are of similar view that each and every object on this Earth are undergoing pressure or force of gravity.
 
It is surprise to see, even after 400 years of Newton identifying gravity we are not in a position to identify the effects of gravity.

We are all watching TV daily.  But we are not aware how gravity is influencing it.  If we switch on a TV, electrons print the images on the screen.  These images are reflected into our eyes.  But how this reflection is going.  TV screen or glass is only an obstruction and after printing images electrons are mostly reflected back.    For the gravity in the open area, TV screen is also an object only.  So, naturally there is heavy concentration of energy against the glass and they are charged and these charged electro-magnetic waves carries picture to all the corners.  Even a small change is reflected back.  Here important role is being played by the outside energy. 

Sun light is being filtered by ozone layer and only a small amount of energy is entering our atmosphere.  Suppose there are two areas, hill and plain and radiation start concentrating at plain area only.  When Hill area is near to Sun when compared to plain area why don’t radiation raise there. 

So, radiation in a particular area mainly depends on the energy already present in that area.  Suppose if the radiation raises, water particles raises and curves the space time.  So it is the indication of existence of strong gravity at a particular place.  In case if the radiation decreases, there is no scope for raise of particles and thus gravity. Here, time dilation and relativity only indicates presence or variations of gravity from one place to other.   When time dilates due to gravity, why don’t the TV.

To test this;
Place a glass in front of the TV, fix it from all sides and remove air and test how TV works.   

About explosions:

Similar thing is happening in the case of all explosions also.  We are looking at it with awesome wonder how things are exploding and releasing huge energy into open area.  It is simply deceiving our naked eye.  When an atomic bomb is detonated we are counting destruction caused by it and the radiation generated by it.

 But we are forgetting effects of gravity;

A dynamite when exploded releases huge energy into open area. 

01  As long as the dynamite is not exploded, total energy remains within atoms only
02  It is only when it explodes huge energy is gathering.
03  But we are not, in fact taking into consideration these things.
04  Suppose if total energy is from the atom only than how it is in stable condition.

To test this;
Take small portion of explosives such as TNT and explode it in open area and then take a closed chamber keep the TNT inside, remove the air and now try to explode the TNT. 

Notice the variations:
01  When we create vacuum gravity is lost.
02  Outside energy fails to create pressure
03  Small amount of pressure that persists within the chamber helps in explosion.
04  But it fails within short time
05  Finally there is no explosion or far limited.

If the present or existing theory is correct:
01  If the total energy is coming from the TNT only.
02  In case if it is so, than explosion must be same at all places.
03  Even if you create vacuum, it should not be a problem.

But the thing is otherwise:
01 TNT fails to explode in normal way.
02 So, it is the outside energy that is present with lot of force, supporting all explosions.

“ANY EXPLOSION MAINLY DEPENDS ON THE OUTSIDE ENERGY AND THE PRESSURE WITH WHICH IT IS”.

All explosions varies or dilates according to gravity.

When time dilates due to gravity, why don’t the torch light.  It is true that even torch light ‘dilates’ due to gravity.    When we move to deep caves or deep mining places naturally torch light decreases or dilates. 

In case if the torch light is working, without any support of gravity  and total amount of energy is coming from the torch light than it must be equal at all places without variation.  When sun light itself varies according to presence of energy in the open area, what about torch light. 

Well, it is unbelievable yet true that even electricity ‘dilates’ due to gravity.  This is the result of electro-magnetic circles.  When an electron is moving with lot of velocity, naturally it escapes effects of gravity.  But slow moving electrons at the top, dilates or loses control and makes way into open area.  When these electrons, pushes already existing energy a magnetic circle is created.  So, naturally electro-magnetic circles mainly depends on the outside energy. 

Particles are not free from gravity.  Particles are also objects only.  There is heavy concentration of energy against each and every particle.  Due to pressure or force a part of the energy comes out of the particle and develops as an gravity curve.  We are comparing gravity curve of particle to gravity curve of a planet and comparing them. 

Yours
Psreddy

[Kryptid]

04  Suppose if total energy is from the atom only than how it is in stable condition.

A TNT molecule is stable because it is in a lower potential energy state than it would be if each of its atoms were separate. A molecule like that cannot spontaneously decompose anymore than a ball on the ground can spontaneously jump up into the air. In order for a TNT molecule to decompose, it has to acquire sufficient energy to overcome its "activation barrier".

This activation barrier is equal to the energy necessary to break the chemical bonds that it is made up of. If this energy can be supplied (by heat or physical force, say), then the atoms that the TNT molecule is made up of can form new bonds that result in molecules that are more stable than the original TNT molecule (such as water and carbon monoxide). Since these new molecules are in a lower potential energy state than the original TNT molecule, that extra energy is what powers the explosion.

01  When we create vacuum gravity is lost.

That is incorrect. Objects still fall in a vacuum chamber:

There is also gravity on the Moon, even though it has no atmosphere:

[pasala (OP)]

Mr kryptid,
Time dilation is just difference of elapsed time due to gravity.  If time dilates due to gravity it does not mean that there is gravity at a particular place and there is no gravity in another place.  It simply shows variations, either due to gravity or velocity. 

By creating vacuum, it only reduces force or pressure of gravity.  Things such as TNT that can explode very easily, still explode in vacuum, yet it may not as it is in the open area. 

In fact perfect vacuum is possible in between two solar systems only. 

It is true and known fact that energy travels with maximum speed in vacuum.  So even if you create vacuum there is energy, only thing is that it may not be able to group or concentrate.  This is the reason, if we light a candle and close it by a glass, still it burns for some time.  Some of the things such as candle needs high pressure to burn.

When E=MC2 is correct and if total TNT is converted into Energy, it must be equal or the same at all places.

It is incorrect to say, there is no climate on moon.  Only thing is that it is weak and particles are not raising as it is on Earth. 

I requested to note the variations only.

Yours
Psreddy

 

[Kryptid]

By creating vacuum, it only reduces force or pressure of gravity.

No it doesn't. Gravity pulls on objects just as hard in a vacuum as it does in air. The only difference is that air resistance slows objects down in accordance with their drag. Look at the following video. It shows that the metal object falls at the same rate in air as it does in a vacuum:

Things such as TNT that can explode very easily, still explode in vacuum, yet it may not as it is in the open area

The presence of oxygen aids TNT's combustion, so you're right in that case. 

In fact perfect vacuum is possible in between two solar systems only.

Not even that is a "perfect" vacuum. 

It is true and known fact that energy travels with maximum speed in vacuum.  So even if you create vacuum there is energy, only thing is that it may not be able to group or concentrate.  This is the reason, if we light a candle and close it by a glass, still it burns for some time.  Some of the things such as candle needs high pressure to burn.

A candle needs an oxidizing agent such as oxygen to burn. If you held the candle under a 100% oxygen atmosphere at one-fifth normal atmospheric pressure, it would still get just as much oxygen as it would in normal air. The reason that candle eventually goes out is because the oxygen gets used up.

When E=MC2 is correct and if total TNT is converted into Energy, it must be equal or the same at all places.

TNT doesn't come even remotely close to 100% conversion of mass to energy.

It is incorrect to say, there is no climate on moon.  Only thing is that it is weak and particles are not raising as it is on Earth.

The Moon does have an atmosphere, but it is so extraordinarily thin that it might as well be ignored (it is over 300 trillion times thinner than Earth's atmosphere).

[pasala (OP)]

Lighter objects such as feather due to air resistance fall slowly in open air.  In vacuum where there is no air at all why it falls at the same rate. In fact as there is no air it has to fall at a faster rate.  We are mostly concentrating on the metal object only.  We are comparing Vacuum to open area and taking air as the basic difference and attributing to air resistance. 

01  Metal object is loosing its weight.
02  Feather is neither loosing or gaining.
03  Both fall at the same rate means:
04  Either one of them has to gain weight
05  Or the other has to lose weight.

In my view air resistance is nominal or minute and it has no such capacity.  Here we are missing something.   

[Colin2B]

In my view air resistance is nominal or minute and it has no such capacity. 

In new theories you are allowed to post any idea, but I would suggest you reconsider this one as there is plenty of experimental evidence that air resistance is a significant factor. Many things such as aircraft, parachutes and sails would not work without it, however, cars would use less fuel.

[Kryptid]

Lighter objects such as feather due to air resistance fall slowly in open air.

Right.

In vacuum where there is no air at all why it falls at the same rate.

It doesn't. The feather falls faster due to the lack of drag.

In fact as there is no air it has to fall at a faster rate.

Right.

We are mostly concentrating on the metal object only.

Right, because it is much less affected by drag than a feather is: it has a much higher density and lower surface area. 

We are comparing Vacuum to open area and taking air as the basic difference and attributing to air resistance.

That is what the difference is.

01  Metal object is loosing its weight.

It isn't.

02  Feather is neither loosing or gaining.

Right.

03  Both fall at the same rate means:
04  Either one of them has to gain weight
05  Or the other has to lose weight.

No it doesn't. What they lose is drag, not weight.

In my view air resistance is nominal or minute and it has no such capacity.  Here we are missing something.   

Your view is wrong. A skydiver in free fall moves much more slowly when his parachute is open than when it is still in his backpack. He weighs the same whether the parachute is open or not. So the difference is purely due to air resistance.

[pasala (OP)]

Mr colin2B

Ok, I had not deviated and it is simply discussion on effects of Gravity. The acceleration due to Earth gravity on objects which are near to Earth is 9.8 m/s2. 

A plane's engines are designed to move it forward at high speed which makes air flow rapidly over the wings,  throw the air down toward the ground, generating an upward force called lift that overcomes the plane's weight and holds it in the sky.  The wings force the air downward and that pushes the plane upward

When an airplane is at constant gravity effect as per Newton second law is 9.8 m/s2.  As per relativity if the plane start gaining velocity gravity effect goes on coming down.   

Here both are different forces as long as the airplane is at constant  gravity effect is high and when it start gaining velocity gravity effect comes down and naturally mass of the plane. 

We are using pressure of air to overcome gravity.  Even I too accept that air resistance is immense. 

Air consists of nitrogen, oxygen and water particles.  But we are missing an important thing “Energy” surrounding us.  For this energy these particles are all objects only. 

If we pack air means, it is not only nitrogen, oxygen particles but also small quantity of energy which is surrounding this particles.  Because of this energy radiation is raising and water particles are divided.

When we create vacuum, along with these particles energy stored or packed moves out.  In the absence of particles, energy fails to group or concentrate.  Energy moves out freely.

This is the reason, if we create vacuum in a water bucket, bubbles start raising from the water.  Since pressure inside water is high when compared to vacuum area, water raises.  Here role of dark energy is nothing.

We are measuring different particles in the air, but not able to recognize huge or immense amount of energy present.

If this is resolved gravity problem is solved.

Yours
Psreddy



 

[Colin2B]

Air consists of nitrogen, oxygen and water particles.  But we are missing an important thing “Energy” surrounding us.  For this energy these particles are all objects only. 
......
We are measuring different particles in the air, but not able to recognize huge or immense amount of energy present.

If this is resolved gravity problem is solved.

Sorry, but this is not the solution to gravity.
There is, however, energy in the mass of the earth.

[pasala (OP)]

Mr Colin2B,
Ok, let us presume that if the total energy is packed in the mass of Earth, how water is evaporating and how radiation is raising.  Suppose if the Sun energy is alone responsible than water has to evaporate in the day time only and it has to condense in the night time. 

There is magnetic field surrounding the Earth and this is not created by Sun energy alone.  Due to convective motions of hot liquid at the centre of the Earth is pumping huge energy into open air.  Since we are having strong climate, a part of the energy coming from Earth and Sun remains permanently. 

In case if the total energy is packed in masses and if outside is empty, it is impossible to imagine.  This happens when total universe collapses.  Again due to Big bang or whatever the reason may, a part of the energy must come out to into open area.

Yours
Psreddy