[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Vortex tides are synchronized with the daily rotation of the Earth (solar calendar).
Moon tides are synchronized with the movement of the moon (the lunar calendar).

[Bored chemist]

The tides are synchronized with the daily rotation of the Earth.

No, that would give either 12 hours if they matched the Sun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time

or just under 12 hrs if they track the stars (about two mins under).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_time



Then there's the other point- what mechanism synchronises them?
The only credible answer is gravity.
So, what you are left with is the Moon- because it's the only thing which gets the timing right and the tide being driven by gravity- it's the only force that causes attraction over that range.

Face it; the tides are driven by the Moon, via gravity.

[Bored chemist]

Vortex tides are synchronized with the daily rotation of the Earth (solar calendar).
Moon tides are synchronized with the movement of the moon (the lunar calendar).

It seems to be a matter of nomenclature
Real  tides are synchronized with the movement of the moon (the lunar calendar).

Made up tides are synchronized with the daily rotation of the Earth (solar calendar).

Or, perhaps you can show me the tide tables for the ones you have invented?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Or, perhaps you can show me the tide tables for the ones you have invented?

To make a calendar of tides, you need to know a lot of data, this is the work of dozens of institutions.

[Bored chemist]

Or, perhaps you can show me the tide tables for the ones you have invented?

To make a calendar of tides, you need to know a lot of data, this is the work of dozens of institutions.

The tide tables that were generated- on the basis of lunar tides- work.
They don't need to add your nonsense.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

The tidal calendar that you use is not a lunar calendar, but a vortex calendar.
(the tidal hump is not synchronized with the moon)

[Bored chemist]

The tidal calendar that you use is not a lunar calendar, but a vortex calendar.

Vortex tides are synchronized with the daily rotation of the Earth (solar calendar).

How often do I have to say this?
The tide calendars + charts that people use say high tide happens  every 12 hrs 25 min.
That's synchronised with the Moon, but not the Sun
If you were right  then the tides would be every 12 hrs.
They are not.
You are wrong.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Synchronous movement is when the hump is always under the moon.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

The tidal calendar that you use is not a lunar calendar, but a vortex calendar.
(the tidal hump is not synchronized with the moon)

Удивительно, как я раньше об  этом не догадался. (в споре рождается истина)

[Bored chemist]

Synchronous movement is when the hump is always under the moon.

No
You don't understand what the word means because you don't understand that there can be a phase shift.
The tides and the Moon are synchronised- that's why they pop up at the same interval 12 hrs 25 min.

[Bored chemist]

Удивительно, как я раньше об  этом не догадался. (в споре рождается истина)

Did you somehow think that would help?
If Google is right it means "
It's amazing how I did not know about it before. (in the dispute, truth is born)"
And yet you are refusing to see the truth because you want to dispute.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Synchronous movement is when the hump is always under the moon.

And for this, the hump must move under the moon from east to west at a speed of 1600 km / h.

[Bored chemist]

And for this, the hump must move under the moon from east to west at a speed of 1600 km / h.

You say that like it's a problem...
Why?

You still need to explain how the tides arrive when the Moon tells them to.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Repeat please this question

[Bored chemist]

Please, repeat the question

How many times?

Wherever you are in the world, if  you go down to the sea and watch you will see the water rise and fall.
And the interval between successive peaks (or troughs) is the same - about 12 hrs 25 min.

And they all say there's a high tide about every 12 hrs 25 min.
How do you explain that if it is not because they are not being driven by the same thing?

They all show the same thing.
A cyclic variation peaking every 12 hrs 20 min or so.

So, what is forcing them all to synchronise with the moon?

Why do they synchronise with the 12 hr 25 minute passage of the moon then?

High tides turn up every 12 hrs 25 min
That's because they are driven by the Moon.

If they were driven by something else, why would they stay in phase with the moon?

can you explain how the tides arrive every 12 hrs 25 min?

Now, can you explain how the tides arrive every 12 hrs 25 min?

That's pretty.
Now, can you explain how the tides arrive every 12 hrs 25 min?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Here we have a later point, we will postpone the debate for tomorrow.

Morning is wiser than evening.
Proverb.

[Bored chemist]

You have had the mornings of the 10th, 11th, 12th 13th, 14th,15th and 16th to answer it.
You weren't wise enough to answer it then, and you never will be.

[Bored chemist]

Good morning!

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Vortex tides are synchronized with the daily rotation of the Earth (solar calendar).

If the tides were synchronized with the movement of the Moon, they would be 25 minutes behind the Moon.

[Bored chemist]

If the tides were synchronized with the movement of the Moon, they would be 25 minutes behind the Moon.

Still not true.
I pointed this out earlier.

Synchronous movement is when the hump is always under the moon.

No
You don't understand what the word means because you don't understand that there can be a phase shift.
The tides and the Moon are synchronised- that's why they pop up at the same interval 12 hrs 25 min.

So, why do you think it's true?
There's a roughly constant lag between the Moon being overhead and high tide.
It's perturbed a bit by the Sun.
Why do you imagine the delay should be 25 minutes?

Also, the tides  are pretty nearly fixed.
How do you explain that?

There is nothing else that they agree with better than they agree with the Moon.