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Ebb and flow - the result of the rotation of the Earth and gyres

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Re: Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
« Reply #460 on: 14/04/2019 11:46:08 »
And the “tidal force” depends more on the radius of the planet than on the force of gravity.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Эксцентриситет_орбиты
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Io_(moon)#Interaction_with_Jupiter's_magnetosphere
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Re: Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
« Reply #461 on: 14/04/2019 14:36:46 »
Good point.
Io is small.
It has a small radius.
On the other hand, that means it's volume is small ^3
So there's simply not very much of it to absorb the tidal energy.
So it gets hotter.

Also, part of the tidal energy on Io is due to the influence of the other satellites.
The other satellites of Earth are tiny so they hardly warm our Moon at all.
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Coriolis force presses the water to the shores, with constant force or force pul
« Reply #462 on: 18/04/2019 09:50:52 »
If the current moves along the meridian, the Coriolis force presses the water to the shores of the continent with a constant force or a pulsating force. (twice a day).
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Re: Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
« Reply #463 on: 18/04/2019 11:37:20 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/04/2019 09:50:52
If the current in the sea moves along the meridian, the Coriolis force presses the water to the shores, with a constant force or force pulsing.
Clearly wrong.
The force at the poles is zero.
The force elsewhere isn't zero.
So it's not constant.

Don't you get embarrassed by making all these mistakes?
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Re: Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
« Reply #464 on: 18/04/2019 18:14:21 »
Why on the northern and southern coasts of the seas and oceans the tides are three times higher than on the eastern and western coasts, but it should be the other way around.
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Re: Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
« Reply #465 on: 18/04/2019 18:58:37 »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_range#/media/File:M2_tidal_constituent.jpg
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Re: Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
« Reply #466 on: 18/04/2019 19:25:53 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/04/2019 18:14:21
Why on the northern and southern coasts of the seas and oceans the tides are three times higher than on the eastern and western coasts, but it should be the other way around.
That is utter nonsense and factually incorrect. Why do you do it? Are you happy being thought an utter fool?
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Re: Coriolis force presses the water to the shores, with constant force or force pul
« Reply #467 on: 19/04/2019 09:11:15 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/04/2019 09:50:52
If the current moves along the meridian, the Coriolis force presses the water to the shores of the continent with a constant force or a pulsating force. (twice a day).
The deflecting force of Coriolis depends on the speed of rotation of the earth both around the axis and around the sun.
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Re: Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
« Reply #468 on: 19/04/2019 10:17:05 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 19/04/2019 09:11:15
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/04/2019 09:50:52
If the current moves along the meridian, the Coriolis force presses the water to the shores of the continent with a constant force or a pulsating force. (twice a day).
The deflecting force of Coriolis depends on the speed of rotation of the earth both around the axis and around the sun.
You posted something that was wrong.
A couple of people pointed out that it was wrong.
So you went back and changed it as if you had been right in the first place.


That's a dishonest way to behave, isn't it?

Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/04/2019 18:14:21
Why on the northern and southern coasts of the seas and oceans the tides are three times higher than on the eastern and western coasts, but it should be the other way around.
I thought I'd quote the. whole of that so it's obvious if you try to do the same thing again.
It's just wrong.
If it's what your hypothesis predicts, thein it is proof that your hypothesis is wrong.
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Re: Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
« Reply #469 on: 22/04/2019 12:43:57 »
I edited the post, I do not change the meaning of what was written.
So I am within the rules and morals.
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Re: Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
« Reply #470 on: 23/04/2019 08:29:37 »
The animation shows how the waters flowing from the Bay of Fundy into the Bay of Man rotate the whirlpool, so that, whirling, precessing reflects the tidal wave in the direction of the Bay of Fundy.
During the flood of the rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy, the current speed in the north of the Gulf of Maine rises to 20 km / hour, as a result of which the height of the tides reaches 18 meters. https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbclid=IwAR3fDQD_uF0xgVpETpxVzbrv2xxgzOR0UfAKIEFDHAKoC2jzE-Mpu1lIWMs#current/ocean/surface/currents/equirectangular=-65.38,43.37,3000/loc=-68.002,43.607
https://images.app.goo.gl/hAE4F7kyMQ1mhcAF9
Mezen Bay White Sea tide height reaches 10 m.
https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbclid=IwAR245zpmdxn7SmOQdJ7qF9HhRn-54AYSZIChWmA6-0A2rXyJ9y2UivmtlZA#current/ocean/surface/currents/equirectangular=41.22,69.34,3000/loc=44.515,68.005
Tides - table. http://www.prilivy.com
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Re: Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
« Reply #471 on: 23/04/2019 14:24:11 »
Whatever...
You said
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/04/2019 18:14:21
Why on the northern and southern coasts of the seas and oceans the tides are three times higher than on the eastern and western coasts, but it should be the other way around.
And the simple answer is that, because it does not happen, we don't need to explain it.

You can stop now.
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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« Reply #472 on: 29/04/2019 03:06:28 »
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We can't look at your calculations unless you post them.
If you are saying you have not done the maths, what are you using as the basis of your post?
In order to mathematically express a physical phenomenon of nature, including a gyroscope, first of all it is necessary to thoroughly study the physics of the phenomenon of nature; otherwise, the mathematical model will turn into a heresy hidden behind mathematical formulas.
The physical properties of a conventional solid gyro today are not fully understood, and the mechanics of a flexible gyroscope are much more complicated than the mechanics of a solid gyroscope, and the enormous whirlpool-gyroscope is also affected by the Coriolis force of the Earth and the Sun.
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Re: Ebb and flow - the result of the rotation of the Earth and gyres
« Reply #473 on: 29/04/2019 08:29:55 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 29/04/2019 03:06:28
The physical properties of a conventional solid gyro today are not fully understood,
Rubbish, they are fully understood except by you, which is why you have this false speculation of whirlpool tides for which you can offer no evidence that matches observed values.
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Re: Ebb and flow - the result of the rotation of the Earth and gyres
« Reply #474 on: 30/04/2019 06:20:31 »
How to understand the fact that the amplitude of the tides in the Bay of Fundy yesterday was 6 meters, and today is 18 meters.
What changes have occurred in a day, for such a sharp jump?
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Re: Ebb and flow - the result of the rotation of the Earth and gyres
« Reply #475 on: 30/04/2019 08:36:33 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/04/2019 06:20:31
Today in the Bay of Fundy the amplitude of the tides can be 6 meters, and tomorrow 18 meters.
What is the reason for such a sharp jump?
Where does it show this? Please post tide tables that show this variance.
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Re: Ebb and flow - the result of the rotation of the Earth and gyres
« Reply #476 on: 01/05/2019 16:14:31 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 30/04/2019 08:36:33
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/04/2019 06:20:31
Today in the Bay of Fundy the amplitude of the tides can be 6 meters, and tomorrow 18 meters.
What is the reason for such a sharp jump?
Where does it show this? Please post tide tables that show this variance.
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Re: Ebb and flow - the result of the rotation of the Earth and gyres
« Reply #477 on: 01/05/2019 17:05:44 »
The amplitude of the tides on earth is almost the same every year, with the exception of the bays into which the rivers flow.
The tide tables are for months ahead, and if an error occurs it is not corrected.
And in the calendar you will not find a mistake.
You can get this information from the on-duty gauging station, or at the Institute of Oceanology.
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Re: Ebb and flow - the result of the rotation of the Earth and gyres
« Reply #478 on: 01/05/2019 18:02:41 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 01/05/2019 17:05:44
The amplitude of the tides on earth is almost the same every year, with the exception of the bays into which the rivers flow.
The tide tables are for months ahead, and if an error occurs it is not corrected.
And in the calendar you will not find a mistake.
You can get this information from the gauging station on duty.
That is not how it works. You made the claim that 'Today in the Bay of Fundy the amplitude of the tides can be 6 meters, and tomorrow 18 meters' it is up to you to provide evidence not for us to go searching for it.
If you cannot, we will assume you have made it up.
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Re: Ebb and flow - the result of the rotation of the Earth and gyres
« Reply #479 on: 01/05/2019 21:33:33 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/04/2019 06:20:31
Today in the Bay of Fundy the amplitude of the tides can be 6 meters, and tomorrow 18 meters.
What is the reason for such a sharp jump?
Well, if it's true (which is questionable) a reasonable component might be the weather.
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