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Do you accept that evidence can be refuted?
I would of thought chemical balances makes us feel ?
Chemical reactions can be reproduced artificially.
True, so maybe electrical senses are what feelings are. Will we ever know?
Quote from: Thebox on 12/05/2018 18:31:48True, so maybe electrical senses are what feelings are. Will we ever know?If you think we were created artificially by aliens, then obviously artificial intelligence can feel regardless of what is needed to accomplish it.
I don't think we were created by aliens, I think there is a possibility that we may of been created by aliens.
Quote from: Thebox on 12/05/2018 20:34:46I don't think we were created by aliens, I think there is a possibility that we may of been created by aliens.Then you must also think it is possible for artificial intelligence to think, feel, love and joke. Otherwise, you'd say it isn't possible for us to have been artificially created by aliens.
The four categories that really matter are NGI (natural general intelligence), AGI (artificial general intelligence), NGS (natural general stupidity), and AGS (artificial general stupidity). Humans mostly have NGS, but a few have NGI. AGI is something we're trying to build, but most projects attempting to build it will more likely build AGS instead. The main difference between NGI and NGS is rigour - those who apply the rules of reasoning correctly qualify as NGI systems, while those who fail to do so (and who refuse to correct their errors regardless of how clearly their errors are shown to them) are classed as NGS systems. NGS is very much the norm, even amongst elite groups of highly qualified "experts". Most of them have no respect for reason whatsoever, apart from claiming to apply it while they fail to do so, in the exact same way religious people do when discussing imaginary gods. It is very hard to identify any NGI anywhere.There is hope though, because with coming of AGI systems, it will be possible to force NGS systems to confront their errors - if you feed your rules into an AGI system and ask it to run them, it will not replicate the NGS's errors because AGI will apply those rules consistently rather than selectively and it won't fill the gaps with any magical thinking. All those NGS systems out there which pride themselves on being NGI will finally be shown up and will be shouted down by AGI in the same way they've spent hundreds of years shouting down the few people who actually are NGI systems.
Nice thread @Thebox!@Kryptid seems to know everything... I love that! I have not yet read the whole thread completely and I will take some time to think about it before shooting a reply.tk
The difference between artificial and natural intelligence is imagination. Our computers have memory, but no imagination. Did you try to imagine how we could program it so that they could exhibit some?
Not that big of an answer either. :0) How would you proceed?
Thirdly the modular would need some sort of quantum randomness code to allow selection of information from a multitude of packets of information.
QuoteThirdly the modular would need some sort of quantum randomness code to allow selection of information from a multitude of packets of information.This seems close to what I think, but I need more detail. How a computer that is programmed to use precise data would use randomness exactly? Of course, as you say, he could chose those data randomly and do something with them, but what would be his purpose? Build new ideas out of old one? Sure, and that's what we do too, but there is another way to use randomness to build new things: let mutations happen to the data.