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What do you mean fairies aren't real? There is no evidence they exist or don't exist. My point being never rule out something unless you know it is absolute impossible. In an alternative reality there might be fairies for all we know. The thought of a fairy being a past experience observed. Who is to say it isn't ? It is bit like saying there is no God, prove there isn't or prove there is ? Both a seemingly impossible task, however I found the answer by using my logic to get one answer.
AI can't give an answer to a paradox, natural intelligence can.
Evidence for that claim is going to be necessary.
Ask Sophia to give an answer to a paradox. Ask a human , a human will attempt it although they might answer subjectively.
Quote from: Thebox on 07/05/2018 02:08:51Ask Sophia to give an answer to a paradox. Ask a human , a human will attempt it although they might answer subjectively. Concluding that AI cannot answer particular questions because Sophia cannot is akin to concluding that no one can perform a successful heart transplant because a 5 year-old cannot.
No its not
in simple terms I do not think AI could make up there own theory that was plausible .
Then it's just your opinion, not actual evidence for anything.
I believe any form of AI can only be a condition of programming. AI answers to the program, natural does not conform to anything. Cognitive freedom as opposed to cognitive control.
Quote from: Thebox on 07/05/2018 13:42:46I believe any form of AI can only be a condition of programming. AI answers to the program, natural does not conform to anything. Cognitive freedom as opposed to cognitive control. I suppose you can demonstrate that "natural does not conform to anything"?
I am natural , demonstrated.
Quote from: Thebox on 07/05/2018 21:48:03I am natural , demonstrated.That doesn't demonstrate that your thoughts and decisions don't conform to some form of programming (a combination of instinct and things that you have learned over the course of your life). Even if your mind didn't conform to something else, you haven't demonstrated that artificial intelligence can't be constructed to do the same thing.
A man walks into a bar, oww, is poor headCan AI joke without having a joke programmed?
Quote from: Thebox on 07/05/2018 23:08:48A man walks into a bar, oww, is poor headCan AI joke without having a joke programmed? If they are an AI capable of self-reprogramming by learning, I don't see why not. All it would take is the right pattern-recognition software and they could figure out what makes something funny.
What about love ? How could AI ever feel or have a chat up line for example?
Quote from: Thebox on 08/05/2018 00:04:08What about love ? How could AI ever feel or have a chat up line for example? Without knowing what makes us feel, there is no way to know.
I consider feelings are conditioned by dependency. I am not sure that AI could ever develop dependency . I do not think AI could ever fear death. But in saying that , dependency is also dependent to situation. Quite clearly there is much variation involved in most things. Lots of answers to the same thing.
You think that 99% of humanity is AI, yet those same 99% are well-capable of having those same feelings that you claim AI should not have.
Can AI joke without having a joke programmed?
I think I would prefer artificial than pond life, at least means we have a creator and a purpose .
Quote from: Thebox on 07/05/2018 23:08:48Can AI joke without having a joke programmed?Yeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_humorThis whole thread seems to be based on TheBox's refusal to accept evidence and the conventional definitions of natural and artificial.I suspect the driver for that may be wishful thinking.Quote from: Thebox on 06/05/2018 21:12:03 I think I would prefer artificial than pond life, at least means we have a creator and a purpose .
A good point, but you know me, when I say something it is often being used not according to strict definition. People have the potential to not have AI and have natural intelligence. What I mean by this, is that the artificial part of intelligence in humans, is most of what they know is not their own thinking, it belongs to somebody else. Most people do not even understand what they think they know because their picture is often not the same as the original thinker. However technology is improving to help with this such as VR to share thoughts to see the same picture.