[guest39538]

An electron has no gravity relative to an electron

A Proton has no gravity relative to a Proton

An electron only has gravity relative to the Proton  and vice versus

Therefore proving gravity is electrostatic force.

E_F1  +  E_F2  = G


added- Get your heads around this one

-0.5 + 0.5 = 0E

ƒ:F_G= 0→←0

Yes, zero is attracted to zero.

[Kryptid]

Looks like my skepticism that you were going to stop posting was well-founded.

[guest39538]

Looks like my skepticism that you were going to stop posting was well-founded.

I did say maybe in a couple of days , I may or may not share how to make a star ship before I retire. 

[JakeTse]

Looks like that's exactly right without any question.

[guest39538]

Looks like that's exactly right without any question.

Well I wasn't born wearing a suit or with a silver spoon up my .........

If the face doesn't fit   ''they'' would never wear the shirt.   ''They'' will wait until I am dead and gone before some ''rich boy''  re-writes it all and publishes it , becoming the next Einstein.

[Bored chemist]

You say "Electrons and Protons do not have gravity."
Well, where does it come form?
To a good approximation, the Sun is made from hydrogen which only has protons and electrons.
It also has enough gravity to keep the Earth and other planets in orbit.

No "Rich Boy" is going to bother to claim something which is plainly nonsense.

[guest39538]

You say "Electrons and Protons do not have gravity."
Well, where does it come form?
To a good approximation, the Sun is made from hydrogen which only has protons and electrons.
It also has enough gravity to keep the Earth and other planets in orbit.

No "Rich Boy" is going to bother to claim something which is plainly nonsense.

Gravity is the relative electrostatic force between  a proton and an electron.  When a proton and electron are joined the electrostatic force/gravity is then relative to other atoms.  Gravity was hid by 0, 0 charge does not mean 0 force as shown in the Cavendish experiment and the Casimir affect. The strong electrostatic force becomes a weakened state force once the electron and proton is combined.

A + B = G

F₁ + F₂ = F₃ = G

[Bored chemist]

Gravity is the relative electrostatic force between  a proton and an electron

What experimental evidence can you cite for that assertion?
I'm asking because, without evidence, nobody  with any grasp of science is going to believe you.

People who understand science will know that gravity is different from the electromagnetic force.
This" Gravity was hid by 0, 0 charge does not mean 0 force " is nonsense.
Try writing it in English.

as shown in the Cavendish experiment and the Casimir affect.

We already know what those experiments show, and it' s nothing to do with the guff you are spouting.

So, once again, what you are doing is cluttering this site with unscientific tosh.
Please stop.

[guest39538]

Gravity is the relative electrostatic force between  a proton and an electron

What experimental evidence can you cite for that assertion?
I'm asking because, without evidence, nobody  with any grasp of science is going to believe you.

People who understand science will know that gravity is different from the electromagnetic force.
This" Gravity was hid by 0, 0 charge does not mean 0 force " is nonsense.
Try writing it in English.

as shown in the Cavendish experiment and the Casimir affect.

We already know what those experiments show, and it' s nothing to do with the guff you are spouting.

So, once again, what you are doing is cluttering this site with unscientific tosh.
Please stop.

You are such a troll who knows nothing.  Perhaps because you keep winding me up, I will show you what world anarchy looks like and go press the anarchy button.
Would you like me too press my button ? 

[Bored chemist]

You are the ignorant troll.
You are also deluded if you think you can show anyone much.

[guest39538]

You are the ignorant troll.
You are also deluded if you think you can show anyone much.

Have I ever told you I am the Vril king and can like connect to the Universe and see all the signs?

Perhaps the intention is I show ?

What you going do , make me disappear?

I bet you I could write an imaginative piece and make a you tube video that I could make go viral and everyone would believe it.

Want to take that bet ?

I don't care if a meteor falls on my head it is better than this rubbish Earth slavery . 

[guest39538]

God is going to be proper angry when God arrives, you do know God is coming don't you ?

P.s Now look what you done Mr C, people are going to think there is something going on....

''They'' see me Mr C, they are coming for us ,panic stations


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Hahah, to troll a troll hey ,

[guest39538]

You are the ignorant troll.
You are also deluded if you think you can show anyone much.

You expect too much of me and just to be awkward , what do you mean by think you can show anyone much?


Why what is to show?   

Are you saying there is something to show?   

What you hiding Mr C?

pressure lol

Added-  A proton has no relative mass relative to another proton.   Showing electrostatic repulsion of proton v proton has no gravity , therefore the opposite reaction of repulsion being the force between electron v proton, attraction or formally gravity.
No other proof needed, end off.

[Bored chemist]

A proton has no relative mass relative to another proton. 

Just asserting that wouldn't make it true, even if it was meaningful.
What are you trying to say when you write "A proton has no relative mass relative to..."?
Mass isn't relative.

[guest39538]

A proton has no relative mass relative to another proton. 

Just asserting that wouldn't make it true, even if it was meaningful.
What are you trying to say when you write "A proton has no relative mass relative to..."?
Mass isn't relative.

Good morning

Mass is relative, how can it not be when a proton v proton has no mass involved?    If a proton had mass v proton mass , there would still be a radius apart and not a repulsion ?

added- If a proton had mass it would still attract other protons rather than repulse .

added- 'You'' are saying a Mass is attracted to mass , a proton has mass but is not attracted to a proton, surely you can see the contradiction and confusion ''you'' are causing me?

added- I am not being an idiot, but if ''you'' is going to give contradictory explanation , I want the correct answer not a contradiction answer. I demand accuracy in explanation not make believe that is falsifiable.

added- Did I ever inform you I have done quality control as a job?  I know how to find errors.

added- let us name the proton (A) and add the direction of force between (A) and (A')

A←→A'  electrostatic repulsion

A→←A'   Mass

Explain please?

[Bored chemist]

The mass of a proton is 1.6726219 × 10^-27 kilograms.
It's not "relative" to anything.
It also has nothing to do with the electrostatic attraction between charged particles.

You need to explain, as I asked you, what you think "A proton has no relative mass relative to..." means.

I am not being an idiot, but if ''you'' is going to give contradictory explanation ,

Show me where I have contradicted myself.
(I have already shown repeatedly where your ideas are self contradictory, or are contradicted by evidence).

[guest39538]

The mass of a proton is 1.6726219 × 10^-27 kilograms.
It's not "relative" to anything.
It also has nothing to do with the electrostatic attraction between charged particles.

You need to explain, as I asked you, what you think "A proton has no relative mass relative to..." means.

I am not being an idiot, but if ''you'' is going to give contradictory explanation ,

Show me where I have contradicted myself.
(I have already shown repeatedly where your ideas are self contradictory, or are contradicted by evidence).

Let me put this in plain and simple English ,  try to ''stick'' two protons together. 

End of argument no gravity.

[Bored chemist]

try to ''stick'' two protons together. 

OK, I added a couple of electrons as "glue". I now have a hydrogen molecule.
So what.
I figure you won't like that answer so here's a variation.
I get a lot of hydrogen and put it in one place- a bit like the Sun. It's now very hot and is keeping itself warm by the energy released by sticking protons together to make helium.
It has nothing to do with gravity.
The fact that you think it did shows that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Looking on the bright side, it shows that when you explain your misunderstandings in plain English, we can easily show that they are complete nonsense.

You should think about expressing your other strange ideas plainly so we can help you understand the errors in them better too.

[guest39538]

OK, I added a couple of electrons as "glue". I now have a hydrogen molecule.
So what.

You said something right for once ,well done in not  complicating the conversation.

Yes the gravity is relative to the electron and proton,  Can't you see that now?

Think , you are practically saying it.

Your ''glue'' is a two pack. (of two parts)

A + B = G

added - I will try algebra

(A+B) =  < A and <B

F₁ > F₁ + F₂

F₁ + F₂ = F_G < F₁ or  F₂

[Bored chemist]

Yes the gravity is relative to the electron and proton,  Can't you see that now?

No, of course I can't see it for two reasons.
Firstly it's not true.
Secondly you have made no meaningful attempt to explain it.
The attraction between an electron and a proton is electrostatic and has nothing to do with gravity (which is many of orders of magnitude weaker)

Your so called "algebra" doesn't follow the rules of algebra.
Even if it did, this wouldn't help because you obstinately refuse to explain what any of the letters mean.

All you are doing is clustering the site with nonsense.