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Electrons and Protons do not have gravity

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Re: Electrons and Protons do not have gravity
« Reply #60 on: 21/05/2018 20:11:05 »
Quote from: Thebox on 21/05/2018 20:00:39
Now I already know you will not understand this   0>0 = 0 = G

(A+B)>(A+B)
Then don't waste time posting it.
Post something which makes sense and / or answers the question instead.
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Re: Electrons and Protons do not have gravity
« Reply #61 on: 21/05/2018 20:40:29 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/05/2018 20:10:03
Quote from: Thebox on 21/05/2018 20:00:39
I am not going to keep repeating myself
Great.
I have been asking you to stop repeating yourself.
Just answer the question (without making up nonsense about "binary" stuff that's actually unary).
The bit about 0.5-0.5 =0 make sense if you are looking at the Earths charge and it seems we agree- it has zero charge because the + charges and the - charges cancel out (viewed from a distance).

But gravity doesn't.
It "sees" all the electrons and all the protons in the Sun.
So it reaches us here many millions of miles away.
We all know that.

But it doesn't help answer the question.

If a combination of protons and electrons has gravity, how can that happen unless the electrons and the protons have gravity?
Where does the gravity come from?

(BTW, please stop repeating this too- it doesn't say anything, no matter how often you repeat it. Nobody thinks it's anything but trivially true. It just hasn't got anything to do with the issue. It's like saying " protons and electrons have no gravity because the Prime Minister is female". She is- but it's not the reason for gravity.)

Quote from: Thebox on 21/05/2018 20:00:39
  -0.5 + 0.5 = 0

Mr C , I did answer you, you just do not understand it because it is new to you.  Like I don't understand stuff I have not learnt too. 

Try it this way and you may get it. 

Consider everything in the Universe is zero,

The earth is zero
The Sun is zero
The earths field and suns field between the earth and sun is zero

Now the sun is a denser 0 than the Earths 0, but the Earths 0 is denser than the fields.

0 is attracted to 0 through the coupling of the 0.

ok?
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Re: Electrons and Protons do not have gravity
« Reply #62 on: 21/05/2018 20:49:54 »
Quote from: Thebox on 21/05/2018 20:40:29
Consider everything in the Universe is zero,
That's obviously already stupid, and it didn't get better
Try again.
This time start with things that are actually true.
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Re: Electrons and Protons do not have gravity
« Reply #63 on: 21/05/2018 20:56:23 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/05/2018 20:49:54
Quote from: Thebox on 21/05/2018 20:40:29
Consider everything in the Universe is zero,
That's obviously already stupid, and it didn't get better
Try again.
This time start with things that are actually true.

That is true what I said.

the earth -0.5+0.5 = 0

the earths field -0.5+0.5=0

etc etc,
  0 is not nothing

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Re: Electrons and Protons do not have gravity
« Reply #64 on: 21/05/2018 22:02:41 »
Do you mean the earth has no net electrostatic field?
If so, why not say that?
It's more use than repeating nonsense you were asked not to bother repeating..
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Re: Electrons and Protons do not have gravity
« Reply #65 on: 21/05/2018 22:10:37 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/05/2018 22:02:41
Do you mean the earth has no net electrostatic field?
If so, why not say that?
It's more use than repeating nonsense you were asked not to bother repeating..

You lot told me maths was important, I provided the maths and it as took you this long to realise what I have been discussing all this time with a N-field which is a neutral field  of A + B , the earths electrostatic field  obviously and atoms.
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Re: Electrons and Protons do not have gravity
« Reply #66 on: 21/05/2018 22:13:53 »
@ Mr Chemist, is your job title a professional extractor of free information ?
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Re: Electrons and Protons do not have gravity
« Reply #67 on: 22/05/2018 06:15:44 »
An atom is a binary particle (of two parts) that consists of an electron and a proton that can be equated A + B in simplicity.  The value of (A) being -0.5 and the value of (B) being 0.5.  -0.5 + 0.5 = 0 where 0 is the charge value.
As a consequence and condition of A + B ,   A + B produces a weakened binary force A + B electrical field that can also be equated -0.5 + 0. 5 = 0 , where 0 is the charge value.

The A + B of an atom having a greater density than the A + B of the permeating field.




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Re: Electrons and Protons do not have gravity
« Reply #68 on: 22/05/2018 22:11:05 »
Quote from: Thebox on 21/05/2018 22:10:37
I provided the maths
No
You posted nonsense.
Saying
"+0.5 + -0.5 =0 "is  not the same as saying 
" from a distance, the positive charges on the nuclei and the negative charges on the electrons cancel and the Earth is neutral overall."
is it?

Quote from: Thebox on 21/05/2018 22:10:37
I have been discussing all this time with a N-field which is a neutral field  of A + B , the earths electrostatic field 
And there you go again.
The earth is neutral.
So it does not have an electrostatic field.
So, you are saying the N field is a field that doesn't exist.



However, you still need to explain why the Sun has gravity.
Where doe it come from if not the protons and electrons?
Quote from: Thebox on 21/05/2018 22:13:53
@ Mr Chemist, is your job title a professional extractor of free information ?
Thankfully, no.
I'd be broke.
I have, at great expense in terms of my time, extracted very little information.
In a thread about gravity, you keep banging on about electrostatics.
So far the only information I have extracted is that you have defined your "N field" as being a field that does not exist.
I guess that's progress.
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Re: Electrons and Protons do not have gravity
« Reply #69 on: 22/05/2018 23:09:09 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 22/05/2018 22:11:05
The earth is neutral.
So it does not have an electrostatic field.
A N-field
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