[guest39538]

Would it be illegal to produce an app that could predict results to a degree of accuracy whether it be the stock market or some types of gambling ?


If this is not illegal, is there any programmers on here who want to go into a joint venture with me? 


Looking to create a bit coin type venture that actually works ?


Stuff the world, I am going to become selfish like the rest of the world , I am going to find greed and put some greed into  my programming.

I am an expert on randomness, I understand quantum variance more than anyone on this planet. Variance becomes logically predictable.

P.s Don't let the cover of my book fool you, inside the book is some seriousness when required.

My XYZ matrix is awesome.   NGI v's var(x)  .


P.s Yes , I can prove it will work . 

Added -

1) Research Phase ( 10+ years ) : complete

2) Plan and intelligent design : complete

3) Computer software programming : incomplete

4) Marketing/selling  product (Ebay and other sources):  incomplete

[Bored chemist]

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I can prove it will work . 

Go on.
Predict next week's national lottery numbers. or the closing value of the FTSE index for next Friday- or... pretty much anything.
Do that a couple of times in a row, and people might take you seriously in spite of you saying

I understand quantum variance more than anyone on this planet.

[guest39538]

 "

I can prove it will work . 

Go on.
Predict next week's national lottery numbers. or the closing value of the FTSE index for next Friday- or... pretty much anything.
Do that a couple of times in a row, and people might take you seriously in spite of you saying

I understand quantum variance more than anyone on this planet.

I need the program making first , to make a full prediction with all the variables considered.   There is lots and lots of math involved,  I need the program to do the math of what it is asked to do.  The math is to much to calculate in ones mind, my XYZ matrix is +EV and based on lots of anomalies using the butterfly effect.  I am a genius after all and the program needed  is huge in size.

[guest39538]

You want some sort of proof ?  I understand, here is proof of how I learnt to deal with variance.


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Over a decade to learn this , look how I kept an equilibrium for a long time, that was not easy . The big decline at the beginning was practicing, playing with variance to understand ''her''.

[Bored chemist]

...whatever...
Predict the lottery or some such, and we might start listening

[guest39538]

...whatever...
Predict the lottery or some such, and we might start listening

That graph anyone can view on an internet source, I have not made that graph , it is my measured performance.  I have been using that to perfect my XYZ matrix.  I have demonstrated it works.


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R.O.I just under 6%  , now if that was multiplied by other sources , it would be looking like a good bet.


The particular problem why I can't go for just this particular thing shown in the graphs, there is a huge time investment in this one.

It is online poker.

[guest39538]

I predict in  7 hrs + time in tonight's Irish lottery draw, number 42 will NOT come out

I will also predict that number 38 will NOT come out.

Bare in mind though, this prediction is based on limited data so could go wrong.    The chance of them not showing is  ~90%.

[Bored chemist]

There's a well known (illegal) scam that works like this...
You get a list of 10,000 people's email addresses.
You pick a big company like Microsoft.
You email hale the people on your address list  ad tell them that your model tells you that shares in Microsoft will go up at the end of he week; you email the other half and tell them your model predicts that the shares will fall during that period.
You wait and find out what actually happens.
Obviously, half the emails you sent were correct.
You take the email address of the ones where you made the "right" prediction and do the same thing- perhaps with another company's shares. You tell half of them that some particular shares will rise, and tell the other half they will fall.
Again you will have got the answer right in half the cases, so you continue to email the 2,500 to whom you have sent two correct prediction.

Repeat this process for a few more rounds.
You will end up with a group of people to whom you have sent the right prediction 7 times in a row.
If you started with 10,000 then you get 5000 right  in the first week, 2500 in the second and so on.
1250
625
312
156
78
So in the 7th round you have about 80 people who have received emails from you where you correctly predicted how the stocks would behave.

And then you offer to sell them your system for making predictions.
Yuu can pretty much name your price at this point.
Some of the gullible ones will buy in and you will be able to take their money.

It's been made to work a few times.
It is, of course illegal- it's fraud.


How do we know that you didn't set up a whole lot of accounts like the one you showed us, but only posted the one that looked good?

...whatever...
Predict the lottery or some such, and we might start listening

[guest39538]

How do we know that you didn't set up a whole lot of accounts like the one you showed us, but only posted the one that looked good?

Because I have been all over the internet poker forums, I am banned from most, this is my one main poker account, I have played others , but not for years.  I concentrated on the biggest and hardest to beat variance, which is pokerstars.  There is like 10,000 people in some games.  It is not a scam, I know variance and can play with variance like a tool. So the idea after a  question was asked yesterday came to me, I could develop a program of how I use my mind .

Somebody asked about the Rubik cube , that give me the idea. 

added- So logically, how is it a scam if I only just had the idea?

[alancalverd]

Get  gorilla to pick the shares. In all laboratory trials, gorillas and octopi have outperformed human experts in predicting stuff like football results and share  prices.

The difference is that the outcome doesn't matter to a stockbroker. He gets commission on the value of the transaction, not whether it makes a profit. Same with casinos - in the long run you are beting against the other players, not the house.

[guest39538]

Get  gorilla to pick the shares. In all laboratory trials, gorillas and octopi have outperformed human experts in predicting stuff like football results and share  prices.

The difference is that the outcome doesn't matter to a stockbroker. He gets commission on the value of the transaction, not whether it makes a profit. Same with casinos - in the long run you are beting against the other players, not the house.

The ''Gorilla process'' is in my model, things are dependent to things.  The ''butterfly effect'' as to be accounted for.

The program would be a steady accumulator rather than a rapid incline , although some rapid inclines do happen because they have too as shown in the graph. My model stops the losses and sustains an equilibrium, so because of this , there can only be inclines over time. 

[Bored chemist]

As I understand it (from wiki) the Irish lottery is a draw of 6 numbers from 45.
So, the odds on not drawing 42 as the first ball are 44/45
For the second, the odds are 43/44
3rd  42/43
4th  41/42
5th 40/41
and for the 6th 39/40

Multiply the odds together and the chances of any particular ball- say number 42- not being drawn are about 86.7%

You have "predicted" an event that has a nearly 9 in 10 chance of happening.
That's not going to impress anyone.

Did you somehow think it might?

[guest39538]

As I understand it (from wiki) the Irish lottery is a draw of 6 numbers from 45.
So, the odds on not drawing 42 as the first ball are 44/45
For the second, the odds are 43/44
3rd  42/43
4th  41/42
5th 40/41
and for the 6th 39/40

Multiply the odds together and the chances of any particular ball- say number 42- not being drawn are about 86.7%

You have "predicted" an event that has a nearly 9 in 10 chance of happening.
That's not going to impress anyone.

Did you somehow think it might?

Did I need to write any math to make my prediction ?   Did you not read this is based on limited data?  I would have it more like 99.99%  with more data . 
I have had 100% in prediction with the national lottery , picking a single value coming out . Calculated , not random.

[guest39538]

xyz matrix

A rough sketch


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[Bored chemist]

added- So logically, how is it a scam if I only just had the idea?

You could have had the idea a year ago. Let's face it; scammers tell lies.

In order to convince us, you will have to predict something today that's got fairly long odds.

[Bored chemist]

xyz matrix

A rough sketch


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You need to stop imagining that diagrams like that are informative.
They are not.

[Bored chemist]

Did I need to write any math to make my prediction ? 

I have no idea- you may be using an octopus.

 Did you not read this is based on limited data? 

The workings of the Irish lottery are well documented so you have as much data as you eve will.
Obviously some data is missing- you don't know  what numbers will be drawn.
That's the  point.

I would have it more like 99.99%  with more data . 

What additional data  would you need?

I have had 100% in prediction with the national lottery , picking a single value coming out .

Then buy a ticket and get rich.

[guest39538]

Then buy a ticket and get rich.

If I say to much, yet again I will give the idea away, I need a math program to do it properly with lots of programmed information ,  ''it needs to be precise for it to work , we can't be mind readers of the future or confused, the programming needs to have specifics, I could do it with pen and paper if I have  all the data', it needs times and dates to work and the correct information.


The model will allow for a person to play and variance of bank roll will follow a pretty linear path, sustaining an equilibrium, the eventually , there will be a spike on the graph , an incline .


P.s Or should I just quit trying to do science and go play poker ?  I am wasting my time on science, might as well spend my time on poker instead right ?

[Bored chemist]

The lottery is a game of luck; only the owner can win.
Poker is, in some regards, a game of skill. A good player can win against bad players.
So, if you are going to reliably make money from  gambling, it will need to be playing a game of  skill (or owning the "house").

However, so far on this board you have not shown the grasp of maths required to win at poker so I suggest that you don't play either game.

I need a math program to do it properly with lots of programmed information , 

Anyone who has a good enough grounding in maths to help you will have a good enough grounding in maths to understand that you are wasting your time.

Lots of "programmed information" can't possibly help.
The balls in the lottery machine have no memory.

[guest39538]

The lottery is a game of luck; only the owner can win.
Poker is, in some regards, a game of skill. A good player can win against bad players.
So, if you are going to reliably make money from  gambling, it will need to be playing a game of  skill (or owning the "house").

However, so far on this board you have not shown the grasp of maths required to win at poker so I suggest that you don't play either game.

I need a math program to do it properly with lots of programmed information , 

Anyone who has a good enough grounding in maths to help you will have a good enough grounding in maths to understand that you are wasting your time.

Lots of "programmed information" can't possibly help.
The balls in the lottery machine have no memory.

Like cards in a deck have no memory but they have means averages and a good player knows how to tap into this mean.  However, I would rather just set up a small shop or something, I have a business plan for that I have had for years, needs about 10k in capital though to start up because of the buying and delivery of stock.  I could buy untested returns from companies, of course because I am a ''fixer'' I could fix lots of things that need repair work.  Then of course sell in my shop as refurbished goods.  Obviously my I.T skills will allow me to extend the business online, of course I already know how to market products . Buy an online domain for about 0.99p set up a web page etc.