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Re: Would it be illegal to ?
« Reply #20 on: 14/07/2018 14:02:37 »
Quote from: Thebox on 14/07/2018 13:31:08
Like cards in a deck have no memory but they have means averages and a good player knows how to tap into this mean. 
No they don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy

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« Reply #21 on: 14/07/2018 14:11:23 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/07/2018 14:02:37
Quote from: Thebox on 14/07/2018 13:31:08
Like cards in a deck have no memory but they have means averages and a good player knows how to tap into this mean.
No they don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy


Dude , I know what gamblers fallacy is, but I know what I know about variation .  But never mind, my ideas and myself is worthless to science, I need to move on now, the grim reaper gets closer you know, I need a new thing to do , obvious science was not the thing where I would have any value.
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Re: Would it be illegal to ?
« Reply #22 on: 14/07/2018 16:07:42 »
So do as the man says. Buy one lottery ticket and win the £10k you need to start the next phase. When you have won £1,000,000 show me the evidence (a suitcase full of fifties will suffice) and I'll help you develop the project. The promise of certain world domination and my eternal friendship for £1 is surely attractive, and you can probably  find £1 between the sofa cushions..
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« Reply #23 on: 14/07/2018 16:13:48 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 14/07/2018 16:07:42
So do as the man says. Buy one lottery ticket and win the £10k you need to start the next phase. When you have won £1,000,000 show me the evidence (a suitcase full of fifties will suffice) and I'll help you develop the project. The promise of certain world domination and my eternal friendship for £1 is surely attractive, and you can probably  find £1 between the sofa cushions..


I have already started my lottery theory  several weeks ago, I won some the first week to break even..  I am playing international lottery but tonight I have a ticket for the English lottery so I have already got my ticket and hope my theory works out to prove my idea works. I have spent a tenner on 4 attempts and have also had a go at the Irish lottery and Polish lottery using my ideas.  So we will see, I have had this theory for years so we will see if I am full of chit or not  :)

P.s If I win, I will bring you suit case full of 50's to help me do my program, the program would be worth millions.  Of course we would have to have an un-disclosure agreement.  ( I hope that means you can't tell anybody how the program would work).

added- The lottery is now £2 Alan lol
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Re: Would it be illegal to ?
« Reply #24 on: 14/07/2018 16:42:42 »
Why did you feel the need to start a thread about this?
Anyway, if you have a system, all you have to do is post your lottery prediction here.
If you get it right we might believe you.
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« Reply #25 on: 14/07/2018 17:22:13 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/07/2018 16:42:42
Why did you feel the need to start a thread about this?
Anyway, if you have a system, all you have to do is post your lottery prediction here.
If you get it right we might believe you.
Because if my theory works , It would be pointless to go down the path of making a program if it were illegal.  I was considering the future and a future marketable product  .   I could not post my prediction here or other people might bet my numbers.   I can do my theory in my head, but not everyone can do theory .

We will see if it works tonight  , I tried hard on this one , used my brain a lot. I will be back after the draw , If I am cheering you know I won something lol ,  :D


added- Just thought , I have not got a television to watch the draw live, I will have to await the results online.

Can't you remember my equation from before ? 

x ≠ y ≠ z  ?

My Matrix .

added - I don't think using your brain can be illegal   :-\

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Re: Would it be illegal to ?
« Reply #26 on: 14/07/2018 18:04:58 »
The lottery  authorities will let you choose your numbers any way you like- because they know that it will not make a difference to them.
So, as far as I can tell, it's perfectly legal to use a program to try to improve your odds.

(Obviously, you are not allowed to influence the draw itself).


The problem here is not legality. The problem is that you can't  hope to do better than random chance.
(You can avoid choosing numbers which lots of others choose in order to maximise a payout if you get lucky).

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« Reply #27 on: 14/07/2018 18:09:11 »
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You can avoid choosing numbers which lots of others choose in order to maximise a payout if you get lucky

Of course, also you can account for repeats etc and of course there is always the element of the luck as well.  I just hope I get lucky as well, the ideas I have could be wrong, I agree.   I had 4 played bets and a random bet the kiosk generated.

I also have the raffles, I might get lucky in a raffle, but if that happens , that means my theory didn't work and I will be more gutted about being wrong than happy winning the raffle lol.

Whats the raffle prize, like a cuddly toy or something similar? :D
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Re: Would it be illegal to ?
« Reply #28 on: 14/07/2018 18:58:37 »
Tell us the number you bet on
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« Reply #29 on: 14/07/2018 19:00:19 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/07/2018 18:58:37
Tell us the number you bet on
Numbers , not number.  My random generated one from the kiosk is

04/07/11/25/27/31

But I hold little hope for that one. only one of them may come out according to my notions, sorry maybe two , but I am not telling you lol , you still have time to put a bet on. Sharing is caring, but I am skint sorry lolz  :)

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Re: Would it be illegal to ?
« Reply #30 on: 14/07/2018 20:08:48 »
Well, if you don't tell us in advance, we are unlikely to believe you.
Since we don't think you can guess the right answer we don't think your system will work and we won't bother to buy tickets.
The worst that would happen is that we end up sharing the win.
You can do it again next week.
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« Reply #31 on: 14/07/2018 20:40:07 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/07/2018 20:08:48
Well, if you don't tell us in advance, we are unlikely to believe you.
Since we don't think you can guess the right answer we don't think your system will work and we won't bother to buy tickets.
The worst that would happen is that we end up sharing the win.
You can do it again next week.
Well, I guess I am just stupid, it did not work although I did get the 4.   I think it is time I give up now , I spent money I didn't really have to spend, that's stupid of me.

Added- I think it is safe to say, I had my ass handed to me..........what a mug.

A final add, £00.00 in the bank and a £83.00 internet bill, so I guess this will be goodbye this time, my gamble failed.
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Re: Would it be illegal to ?
« Reply #32 on: 14/07/2018 21:54:22 »
There is almost nothing (apart from fixing the lottery itself) that could be illegal in attempting to predict the result. There was one hiccup  some years ago when the rollover prize in the Irish lottery exceeded the value of printed tickets for sale and the Mafia bought all the tickets, but nowadays there is no limit on the number of tickets in any state lottery so you would have to buy every combination of numbers to be sure of winning.

Two other good wheezes were bananas and postage stamps.

(a) Tesco ran a one-day promotion on bananas such  that the value of loyalty points exceeded the cost of the bananas, so some bright guy bought all the bananas in his local store and gave them away in the car park.

(b) The Post Office announced a large forthcoming increase (something like 5p) in the cost of first-class postage. A shrewd investor bought £20,000 worth of stamps and sold them in the following days for 1p less than their new value: a useful saving for small businesses and a fair profit for the investor.

Same applies to the stock exchange: buy low and sell high. But you can also sell at the top of a peak and repurchase as the shares slide, so you retain your asset and make a profit. The computer comes in handy not for  predicting the ups and downs, or even maximising gains, but for making very rapid transactions of huge sums when such fluctuations are actually observed. Problem is that the big boys already have the software in place.
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« Reply #33 on: 14/07/2018 23:46:51 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 14/07/2018 21:54:22
the value of loyalty points exceeded the cost of the bananas,
No doubt, he walked home smiling and satisfied, knowing he made the right play .  Loyalty points take a while to build up, he sacrificed a lot of bananas to build his points up I bet.

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Same applies to the stock exchange: buy low and sell high. But you can also sell at the top of a peak and repurchase as the shares slide, so you retain your asset and make a profit. The computer comes in handy not for  predicting the ups and downs, or even maximising gains, but for making very rapid transactions of huge sums when such fluctuations are actually observed. Problem is that the big boys already have the software in place.


I have never ventured into the stock market, although I have dealt with stock when I have done some wheeling and dealing.  Buy for cheap and sell for more is always profitable, as you say sometimes even buying back to retain assets and make a profit is a good play.  I sold a hi-fi system 5 times once lol , buying it back each time cheaper than I sold it them.  Rental fee's lol.   :)

Renting things out is also profitable, as long as the goods can last the period to gain more rent than retail value to make a profit on a profit.

You know, say you bought a television from a wholesale for £100 that the retail value was £200.  But if you could rent that television out at £20 a month and it lasts, lets say 30 month before it packed in.  30 month * £20 = £600 , so it is a huge mark up. Of course related to short term and long term investment.

Of course there is also predictive means on the stock market,  we can gain an edge from the previous years ''growth chart'' of a company and then employ analysis of the data to create a strategy to account for variations etc.

Added - Think my internet is going off at 12 maybe, so good luck  to you all in making your realities work. 
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« Reply #34 on: 16/07/2018 12:41:53 »
Mega millions tomorrow, hope I am not developing a bad habit , or should I play Euro millions tonight ?  Can't decide, I have got enough money to have a couple of tickets, feel like Charlie, not the sort that is sniffed lol, the sort that likes chocolate factories ahaha, dreams of glory, jackanory,  you wouldn't you like to know.   :-\ ??? :o ::)
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Re: Would it be illegal to ?
« Reply #35 on: 16/07/2018 19:34:49 »
Post the numbers you predict will win.
If they do then you can pretty much name your price for the "method".
If they don't it has cost you nothing.
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« Reply #36 on: 16/07/2018 19:49:56 »
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Post the numbers you predict will win.
If they do then you can pretty much name your price for the "method".
If they don't it has cost you nothing.
For which one?

How about Wednesdays national lottery ?  Give you time get a bet on .

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« Reply #37 on: 16/07/2018 20:25:20 »
Quote from: Thebox on 16/07/2018 19:49:56
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2018 19:34:49
Post the numbers you predict will win.
If they do then you can pretty much name your price for the "method".
If they don't it has cost you nothing.
For which one?

How about Wednesdays national lottery ?  Give you time get a bet on .


That's as good as any.
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« Reply #38 on: 16/07/2018 20:28:05 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2018 20:25:20
Quote from: Thebox on 16/07/2018 19:49:56
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2018 19:34:49
Post the numbers you predict will win.
If they do then you can pretty much name your price for the "method".
If they don't it has cost you nothing.
For which one?

How about Wednesdays national lottery ?  Give you time get a bet on .


That's as good as any.

I can't get in trouble for giving out predictions?

I predict :  07/09/12/19//27/41  bonus ball 8 or  in the mix and one of the mix a bonus ball. I also have a few variations of that , but that is my main choice with my system. Additionally because of my prior weeks , I am due another win to break even or better.  Consider week one I had a slight incline slope then it declined so now it should find balance again, if not this week, I expect an incline soon like shown in my poker graph.





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« Reply #39 on: 16/07/2018 20:38:34 »
Now we wait.
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