[Bored chemist]

Call the sea where there are high tides, but there is no fast flow.

Are you asking for such a place?
OK
Jersey
It's in the channel- there's not much current. Mean sea level is pretty much the same at both ends of the channel.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Could you please name the sea, the lake, the bay, where the whirlpools rotate, but there are no high tides. (and that there was a flow map).
And you show me the island.

[Bored chemist]

Could you please name the sea, the lake, the bay, where the whirlpools rotate, but there are no high tides. (and that there was a flow map).
And you show me the island.

No.
You can do all that for yourself.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

I ask you a question.
Why are the tides forming 10 cm in the Baltic Sea and 10 meters in the White Sea.
http://goo.gl/eYVTo6
http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/22.png

[Bored chemist]

I ask you a question.
Why are the tides forming 10 cm in the Baltic Sea and 10 meters in the White Sea.

I already answered.

The places where the tidal range is larger are generally where the tide is funneled into a bay or estuary.
Because the tidal bulge (dragged by the moon's gravity) enters the funnel and travels along it, the same volume of water is forced into a narrow passage and so it has to get deeper.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

1. Why the height of the tides in the White Sea is 100 times greater than in the Baltic Sea.
The height of the tides in the Baltic Sea is 10 cm, and in the White Sea 10 meters.
http://goo.gl/eYVTo6
http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/22.png
  2. The tidal current in the White and Baltic Sea, moves from the Atlantic Ocean. How.
a). The distance from the Atlantic Ocean to the throat of the Baltic Sea is 10 km, to the throat of the White Sea 3000 km.
Flow from the throat of the White Sea moves from south to north, at a speed of 1 km an hour
b). The flow from the throat of the White Sea moves from south to north, at a speed of 1 km per hour.

[Colin2B]

You do not know this, but I'll tell you.
The tidal current in the White and Baltic Sea moves from the Atlantic Ocean.
The distance to the throat of the Baltic Sea is 10 km, to the throat of the White Sea is 3000 km.

The distance has nothing to do with it. The correct answer is:

The places where the tidal range is larger are generally where the tide is funneled into a bay or estuary.
Because the tidal bulge (dragged by the moon's gravity) enters the funnel and travels along it, the same volume of water is forced into a narrow passage and so it has to get deeper.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

1. Why the height of the tides in the White Sea is 100 times greater than in the Baltic Sea.
The height of the tides in the Baltic Sea is 10 cm, and in the White Sea 10 meters.
http://goo.gl/eYVTo6
http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/22.png
 2. The tidal current moves to the White Sea from the Atlantic Ocean. How. (trajectory, distance, travel time).
a). As the flow moves, pulsates every 12 hours, or flows a continuous stream (eternal tide).
b). As there is an ebb in the river Severnaya Dvina, if in the Northern Dvina, the eternal tidal current moves.
at). What is the mechanism of transformation of the tidal current into a tidal wave.
g). How much water to move in the tidal current.
e). At what speed does the tidal current (km / h) move.
(The distance from the Atlantic Ocean to the throat of the Baltic Sea is 10 km, to the throat of the White Sea 3000 km.
Flow from the throat of the White Sea moves from south to north, at a speed of 1 km an hour).

Please answer both questions?

[Colin2B]

1. Why the height of the tides in the White Sea is 100 times greater than in the Baltic Sea.
The height of the tides in the Baltic Sea is 10 cm, and in the White Sea 10 meters.
http://goo.gl/eYVTo6
http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/22.png
  2. The tidal current in the White and Baltic Sea, moves from the Atlantic Ocean. How.
a). The distance to the throat of the Baltic Sea is 10 km, to the throat of the White Sea 3000 km.
b). The flow from the throat of the White Sea moves from south to north, at a speed of 1 km per hour.

Please answer both questions?

Already answered:

The places where the tidal range is larger are generally where the tide is funneled into a bay or estuary.
Because the tidal bulge (dragged by the moon's gravity) enters the funnel and travels along it, the same volume of water is forced into a narrow passage and so it has to get deeper.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

As you don’t seem interested in the answers, why should we bother?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

1. Why the height of the tides in the White Sea is 100 times greater than in the Baltic Sea.
The height of the tides in the Baltic Sea is 10 cm, and in the White Sea 10 meters.
http://goo.gl/eYVTo6
http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/22.png
 2. The tidal current moves to the White Sea from the Atlantic Ocean. How. (trajectory, distance, travel time).
a). As the flow moves, pulsates every 12 hours, or flows a continuous stream (eternal tide).
b). As there is an ebb in the river Severnaya Dvina, if in the Northern Dvina, the eternal tidal current moves.
at). What is the mechanism of transformation of the tidal current into a tidal wave.
g). How much water to move in the tidal current.
e). At what speed does the tidal current (km / h) move.
(The distance from the Atlantic Ocean to the throat of the Baltic Sea is 10 km, to the throat of the White Sea 3000 km.
Flow from the throat of the White Sea moves from south to north, at a speed of 1 km an hour).

Please answer both questions?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Coast of the peninsula Nova Scotia (Canada), from the east it is washed by the waters of the Atlantic Ocean, in the west by the waters of the Bay of Fundy.
The tidal wave on the peninsula moves from east to west. (at the equator at a speed of 1650 km per hour).
The maximum height of the tides in the east of the peninsula is 1 meter, in the west of the peninsula is 20 meters (the Bay of Fundy).
Why the height of the tides, on the west coast of the Nova Scotia Peninsula (the Bay of Fundy) is 20 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).
It is believed that the tidal wave reflected from the eastern coast of Canada is moving towards the Baltic, White and Chukchi seas.
http://www.gulfofmaine.org/ebm/toolkitsurvey/images/exec-sum-2.jpg
http:/.../www.gulfofmaine-census.org/wp-content/images/circulation/fig4.jpg
http:/.../www.gulfofmaine.org/ebm/toolkitsurvey/images/exec-sum-2.jpg

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

The coast of the peninsula of Kamchatka (Russia), from the east it is washed by the waters of the Pacific Ocean, in the west by the waters of the Penzhinsky Gulf of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
The tidal wave on the peninsula moves from east to west (at the equator at a speed of 1650 km per hour).
The maximum height of the tides in the east of the peninsula is 0.5 meters, in the west of the peninsula is 13 meters (Penzhinsky Bay).
Why the height of the tides on the western coast of the peninsula of Kamchatka is 25 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).
The highest tides in the Pacific Ocean are formed in the Penzhina Bay of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk (why, not at the equator).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamchatka_Peninsula
http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/41.png
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Okhotsk-Japan5PZG.png

[Bored chemist]

at a speed of 1650 km per hour

Where did you get that figure from?
It's not credible that a wave crosses the sea, faster than the speed of sound and yet nobody notices.


Do you have an suggestion that's not obviously wrong?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

It's not credible that a wave crosses the sea, faster than the speed of sound and yet nobody notices.

This figure from the encyclopedia, we discussed it, but the essence of the last posts in the other.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/earth-and-environment/geology-and-oceanography/geology-and-oceanography/tides

[Bored chemist]

This figure from the encyclopedia, we discussed it, but the essence of the last posts in the other.

That encyclopedia page does not mention 1650.
I presume you mean this
"An idealized tidal wave would move across Earth at 1,600 kilometers per hour (1,000 miles per hour) at the equator. " which is wrong, a tidal bulge would move at that speed.

and Russia isn't on the equator.

Now answer the question.
How do we have supersonic waves traveling around with nobody noticing?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

This figure from the encyclopedia, we discussed it, but the essence of the last posts in the other.

That encyclopedia page does not mention 1650.
I presume you mean this
"An idealized tidal wave would move across Earth at 1,600 kilometers per hour (1,000 miles per hour) at the equator. " which is wrong, a tidal bulge would move at that speed.

and Russia isn't on the equator.

Now answer the question.
How do we have supersonic waves traveling around with nobody noticing?

We discussed this topic in the topic "The tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools" page 9.
If you want to discuss more, go to another topic and ask questions.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

I believe the last three posts brilliantly refute the Moon theory of tides.
And the catalyst for these posts were my opponents.
This forum has well edited my theory.
Thank you!

[Colin2B]

I believe the last three posts brilliantly refute the Moon theory of tides.

You are mistaken and your mistake is in assuming that the tidal bulges, or waves, travel east to west at the same speed as the moon rotates about the earth. As we have explained before, the waves (not currents) circulate in the ocean basins around tidal nodes called amphidromic points, so they do not travel at the speeds you assume.

The other thing you are ignoring is the fact that your whirlpool theory has been disproved:

The length of the tidal wave depends on the diameter of the whirlpool. And the height of the tidal wave depends on the rotation speed of the whirlpool of the orbital velocity of the Earth, and the time of the tilting of the whirlpool (12 hours).
A = V1 • V2 / t
where: A is the amplitude of the tidal wave (precession angle).
V1 - rotation speed of the whirlpool.
V2 is the orbital velocity of the Earth.
t - the time of tilting of the whirlpool (12 hours).

The first problem with this formula is that it does not return an amplitude, it produces a number of square metres per second. That is clearly wrong.

Next problem involves timing:

As is known, everything that rotates, including whirlpools, possess the property of a gyro (yule) to maintain the vertical position of the axis in space, regardless of the rotation of the Earth.
If you look at the Earth from the Sun, the whirlpools, rotating together with the Earth, turn over twice a day, due to which the whirlpools precess (swing by 1-2 degrees) and reflect the tidal wave around the entire perimeter of the whirlpool.

A rigid gyroscope on earth will indeed align itself to the sidereal day which is 4mins shorter than the solar day. However, that gives a number of problems for your theory.
Firstly, we know from observation that the main tide period is period is about 12hrs 25mins - half a lunar day - so two tides take 24hrs 50mins which is the average time for the Earth to rotate once relative to the Moon. This is a hugh difference from your difference of 4mins in 24hrs making your double tide period 23hrs 56mins.  Clearly your predictions can never work with this theory.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

You are mistaken and your mistake is in assuming that the tidal bulges, or waves, travel east to west at the same speed as the moon rotates about the earth. As we have explained before, the waves (not currents) circulate in the ocean basins around tidal nodes called amphidromic points, so they do not travel at the speeds you assume.

In this topic, large fluctuations in the amplitude of tides are discussed.
And you are talking about other issues.

1. Why the height of the tides in the White Sea is 100 times greater than in the Baltic Sea.
The height of the tides in the Baltic Sea is 10 cm, and in the White Sea 10 meters.

2. Why the height of the tides, on the west coast of the Nova Scotia Peninsula (the Bay of Fundy) is 20 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).

3. Why the height of the tides on the western coast of the peninsula of Kamchatka is 25 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).

4. How to explain the fact that in south-western Australia in the port of Fremantle, tides for half a year disappear.

5. Once a year in the delta of the Northern Dvina, the tides mysteriously disappear for several days, sometimes for a week, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature (the White Sea).

[Colin2B]

You are mistaken and your mistake is in assuming that the tidal bulges, or waves, travel east to west at the same speed as the moon rotates about the earth. As we have explained before, the waves (not currents) circulate in the ocean basins around tidal nodes called amphidromic points, so they do not travel at the speeds you assume.

In this topic, large fluctuations in the amplitude of tides are discussed.
And you are talking about other issues.

So why did you start talking about these ‘other issues’.
It doesn’t change anything as your whirlpool ‘theory’ is now shown to be wrong.

1. Why the height of the tides in the White Sea is 100 times greater than in the Baltic Sea.
The height of the tides in the Baltic Sea is 10 cm, and in the White Sea 10 meters.

2. Why the height of the tides, on the west coast of the Nova Scotia Peninsula (the Bay of Fundy) is 20 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).

3. Why the height of the tides on the western coast of the peninsula of Kamchatka is 25 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).

4. How to explain the fact that in south-western Australia in the port of Fremantle, tides for half a year disappear.

5. Once a year in the delta of the Northern Dvina, the tides mysteriously disappear for several days, sometimes for a week, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature (the White Sea).

None of these are mysteries to anyone who understands the dynamic theory of tides and understands the influence of sun and moon, and they have been explained here before.
Only to the whirlpool theory are they a mystery.