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Why do tides disappear in some places?

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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #120 on: 26/11/2018 00:54:46 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 24/11/2018 11:26:30
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 22/11/2018 18:48:41
This theory has very good testability.
If high tides form on that bank where you are standing, it means that the current is moving fast along this bank.
It is easy to check based on a map of the sea currents that are on the Internet.

Approximately the tide chart will look like this:
1 km / h - 1 meter.
2 km / h - 2 meter.
3 km / h - 3 meter.
And so on.
And no philosophy.
The amplitude of the tides also depends on the size of the whirlpools, the amount of water under the whirlpool, the distance from the coast to the whirlpool, and the direction of flow (to the west, east, north, south).
The only way to refute the whirlpool theory of tides is to name the coast where the current is moving fast, but there are no high tides there.
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #121 on: 03/12/2018 04:25:46 »
Vertical movement of ocean waters can be convincingly modeled using simple experience.
For this, a half-filled vessel with rotating liquid (bucket, tumbler, mixer) must be rotated around itself (in orbit).
If the liquid in the bucket rotates to the right, the bucket around itself (in orbit) must be rotated to the left.
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #122 on: 03/12/2018 19:10:12 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 03/12/2018 04:25:46
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #123 on: 08/05/2019 12:21:43 »
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Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 19/04/2019 19:18:47
How to understand the fact that the amplitude of tides in the Bay of Fundy yesterday was 6 meters, and today is 18 meters.
What has changed in a day, for such a sharp jump.
We have two possible answers.
1. For a day, the force of gravity increased three times.
2. During the day, the rotation speed of the rotation has increased three times.

Record high tide in the Bay of Fundy - 21.6 meters - occurred only once in the entire history of observations, on the night of 4 to 5 October in 1869.
On the night of 4 to 5 October in 1869, under the influence of the Saxby Gale cyclone, a record rainfall fell over the basins of rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy (300 mm in one day), due to which waters from the Bay of Fundy poured into the Bay of Man and increased speed rotation cycle in the Gulf of Maine, three times.

During the flood of the rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy, the current speed in the north of the Gulf of Maine rises to 20 km / hour, as a result of which the height of the tides reaches 18 meters.
During a drought over the basins of rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy, the amplitude of the tides does not exceed three meters.
And the most important question is why in the season of abnormally high tides in the Bay of Fundy, in other bays of the Northern Hemisphere, the amplitude of the tides does not increase?

The real-time animation shows how the waters flowing into the Gulf of Maine from the Gulf of Fundy form a cycle that, precessing, reflects the tidal wave in the direction of the Gulf of Fundy. https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbclid=IwAR3fDQD_uF0xgVpETpxVzbrv2xxgzOR0UfAKIEFDHAKoC2jzE-Mpu1lIWMs#current/ocean/surface/currents/equirectangular=-65.38,43.37,3000/loc=-68.002,43.607
https://images.app.goo.gl/hAE4F7kyMQ1mhcAF9
Mezen Bay White Sea tide height reaches 10 m.
https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbclid=IwAR245zpmdxn7SmOQdJ7qF9HhRn-54AYSZIChWmA6-0A2rXyJ9y2UivmtlZA#current/ocean/surface/currents/equirectangular=41.22,69.34,3000/loc=44.515,68.005
A similar pattern of abnormally high tides is observed in all the bays into which rivers flow.
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #124 on: 08/05/2019 22:58:35 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 08/05/2019 12:21:43
A similar pattern of abnormally high tides is observed in all the bays into which rivers flow.
Rubbish. There are numerous bays, in fact a majority, where this does not happen eg plymouth
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #125 on: 10/05/2019 08:48:45 »
Then why, spring tides are formed only in rivers, and not in all, and at different times?
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #126 on: 10/05/2019 10:52:07 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 10/05/2019 08:48:45
Then why, spring tides are formed only in rivers, and not in all, and at different times?
Spring tides are not formed only in rivers.
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #127 on: 10/05/2019 14:32:36 »
It is believed that abnormally high spring "Tides of the century" with an amplitude of 15 meters in the Gulf of Saint-Malo are formed during the parade of planets, then why in other bays during the parade of planets there are no abnormally high "Tides of the century".
Moreover, in some bays of the Northern Hemisphere during the parade of the planets abnormally low “Tides of the Century” occur. (Bay of Fundy, Ungava Bay, Mezen Bay, Penzhinskaya Bay, etc.)?
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #128 on: 10/05/2019 14:37:00 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 10/05/2019 14:32:36
why doesn’t the parade of planets simultaneously affect other bays of the northern hemisphere?
It does in the same area and then following the moon to other locations.
You really ought to do your homework.
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #129 on: 24/08/2019 09:09:12 »
In the presented work, on numerous facts it is convincingly proved that tidal forces are a delusion.
To date, there are quite a lot of theories and hypotheses that rely on tidal power.
And the tidal force must be removed from celestial mechanics and then everything will fall into place.
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #130 on: 24/08/2019 12:12:23 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 24/08/2019 09:09:12
In the presented work, on numerous facts it is convincingly proved that tidal forces are a delusion.

This video shows people surfing a tidal bore.
It is not a delusion.

Do you accept that it proves that tides exist and thus that you are wrong?
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #131 on: 27/08/2019 20:14:36 »
Who knows how many people die every year from floods and waves of killers and how many people this theory can save.
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #132 on: 27/08/2019 20:18:37 »
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how many people this theory can save.
How can it save people?
It doesn't work.
It doesn't make sense
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #133 on: 28/08/2019 10:09:32 »
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The only way to refute the whirlpool theory of tides is to name the coast where the current is moving fast, but there are no high tides there.
What about Cook Strait, in New Zealand?

When it is high tide at one end of Cook Strait, it is low tide at the other, which produces high currents through the short length of Cook Strait.
- Wellington and Picton are close to the narrowest part of Cook Strait, and yet they have small tides for New Zealand.

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The smallest tidal ranges (2 metres or less) are experienced at Gisborne, Napier, Wellington and Picton.
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Cook Strait: Between the North and South Islands the tide travelling northward along the east coast passes the southbound tide to the west. The strong difference between the states of these tides, combined with the east/west tide height difference, produces the complex pattern of strong currents that flow through Cook Strait.

See: https://www.linz.govt.nz/sea/tides/introduction-tides/tides-around-new-zealand
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #134 on: 30/08/2019 04:55:55 »
The amplitude of the tides also depends on the size of the gyre, the amount of water under the gyre, the distance from the coast to the gyre, and the direction of the current (north, south, west, east).
On those coasts where the speed of currents is 0 km / h, the amplitude of the tides is also 0 meters.
The current in the Cook Strait reaches a speed of 7 knots.
In New Zealand, there is a tidal power plant.
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #135 on: 30/08/2019 05:16:16 »
Hudson Bay water rotation pattern, tidal wave recessing reflected by the North Atlantic planetary cycle
http://goo.gl/QoUvVy http://goo.gl/R1hx0H
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #136 on: 30/08/2019 07:08:35 »
A “lunar tidal wave”, moving from the Indian Ocean from east to west, crashing into the eastern coast of Madagascar creates tides 1.5 meters high and abnormally high tides 7 meters high, for some reason they form in the west of Madagascar. Wikipedia explains this discrepancy by the reflection of waves and the fact that the Coriolis force does its job.
And the real reason for this discrepancy is the giant cycle, rotating around the island of Madagascar at a speed of up to 9 km / h, precessing, reflecting the tidal wave towards the western coast of Madagascar.
https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbclid=IwAR3fDQD_uF0xgVpETpxVzbrv2xxgzOR0UfAKIEFDHAKoC2jzE-Mpu1lIWMs#current/ocean/surface/currents/equirectangular=44.73,-20.54,1976/loc=-66.405,44.310
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozambique_flow
http://goo.gl/QoUvVy
Map of the height of the tides. https://images.app.goo.gl/hmc3gKegiLjYmeoT9
https://images.app.goo.gl/3wnFSkSQ63D9G5FE6
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #137 on: 30/08/2019 07:29:00 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/08/2019 04:55:55
The current in the Cook Strait reaches a speed of 7 knots.
In New Zealand, there is a tidal power plant.
Not in the same  place.
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #138 on: 30/08/2019 07:31:59 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/08/2019 07:08:35
"Moon tidal wave", moving from the Indian Ocean from east to west, crashing into the eastern coast of the island of Madagascar, contrary to expectations, creates zero tides.
I googled madagascar tides and found lots of tide tables.
Are you saying they are all blank?
Or were you just lying?
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Re: Why do tides disappear in some places?
« Reply #139 on: 30/08/2019 07:44:29 »
In the northeast of Madagascar, maximum tides are 1.5 meters.
In the west of the island, the maximum height of the tides is 7 meters.
And it should be the other way around.
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