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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #20 on: 30/08/2018 17:50:50 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/08/2018 15:50:32
Quote from: The Spoon on 30/08/2018 13:31:24
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/08/2018 13:19:56
Quote from: Colin2B on 30/08/2018 09:05:02
Again, you are being selective with the data. If you look at a map of the world you will see that the equator passes through very few coastal places whereas the 2 temperate zones include a large number of coastal sites, so your two samples are not comparable.
Take even wider.
You have the advantage, you collect data at the equator, and I'm in the temperate zone.

According to the lunar theory of tides, the earth's crust at the latitude of London rises and falls twice a day with an amplitude of about 20 cm. At the equator, the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter (at the equator 2.5 times more).
If to argue logically, at the equator the height of the tide should be 35-40 meters.
If, the Bay of Fundy was on the equator, then the height of the tide was 45 meters.
Have you evidence for that assertion?
All these data are on the Internet.
https://ru.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Трудные_темы_курса_физики/Приливные_силы_и_волны
So thanks to them, the earth's crust at the latitude of Moscow, with frequency twice a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm. At the equator, the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter.
https:/.../dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enc_geo/6965/приливы
https:/.../slovar.wikireading.ru/1092227
My apologies. The question should have been 'do you have any credible, peer reviewed sources to back up your assertion'.
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #21 on: 30/08/2018 17:56:18 »
The Earth's crust moves about that far when (or at the same frequency as)  the moon passes over.
What doesn't seem supported is the conjecture that "
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/08/2018 13:19:56
If to argue logically, at the equator the height of the tide should be 35-40 meters.
If, the Bay of Fundy was on the equator, then the height of the tide was 45 meters.
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #22 on: 30/08/2018 22:06:39 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 11/08/2018 19:59:17
Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?

According to the lunar theory of tides, the Earth's crust at the latitude of London, with a frequency of twice a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter (2.5 times more).
https://ru.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Трудные_темы_курса_физики/Приливные_силы_и_волны
Then why, the highest tides are formed in the temperate zones and not at the equator?
The highest tides on Earth are formed in the Fandi Bay in North America - 18 m, Ungava Bay Quebec - 17m, at the mouth of the Severn River in England - 16 m, in the Bay of Mont-Saint-Michel in France - 15 m, in the mouths of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Penzhinskaya and Gizhiginskaya - 13 m , at the cape Nerpinsky in the Mezensky Bay - 11 m.

To answer this question, we need to name 5 gulfs in the equatorial zone, where the height of the tides exceeds 10 meters, otherwise the lunar theory about tides loses logic.

If to argue logically, at the equator the height of the tide should be 35-40 meters.
If, the Bay of Fundy was on the equator, then the height of the tide was 45 meters.
https://www.co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/faq2.html#26
The swirling theory of tides https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=73127.0 explains this inconsistency by the absence of whirlpools at the equator, as well as cyclones and anticyclones.
To form whirlpools, cyclones and anticyclones, the deflecting force of Coriolis is needed. At the equator, the Coriolis force is minimal and in the temperate zones, it is maximal.
If these facts have not convinced you, ask questions, we will convince.
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #23 on: 31/08/2018 05:40:32 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/08/2018 22:06:39
According to the lunar theory of tides, the Earth's crust at the latitude of London, with a frequency of twice a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter (2.5 times more).
https://ru.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Трудные_темы_курса_физики/Приливные_силы_и_волны
Then why, the highest tides are formed in the temperate zones and not at the equator?

So you think that solid rock and liquid water behave the same way? Seriously?
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #24 on: 31/08/2018 08:18:26 »
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #25 on: 31/08/2018 08:40:58 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 08:18:26
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/08/2018 05:40:32
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Whilst reading and comprehension don't seem to be your your strong points, look at this again. Have you not noticed that it is a quote from another forum member?
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #26 on: 31/08/2018 09:05:39 »
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For I am the God of science.
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Seriously?
1. Whilst reading and comprehension don't seem to be your your strong points, look at this again.
2. Have you not noticed that it is a quote from another forum member?
1. This is due to the inaccuracy of the translation.
2. Ask this question where you read it, there is more information you need.
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #27 on: 31/08/2018 12:43:13 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 08:18:26
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/08/2018 05:40:32
For I am the God of science.
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Seriously?
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/08/2018 05:40:32
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Quote from: Kryptid on 31/08/2018 05:40:32
For I am the God of science.
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In answer to
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For I am the God of science.
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Seriously?
1. Whilst reading and comprehension don't seem to be your your strong points, look at this again.
2. Have you not noticed that it is a quote from another forum member?
1. This is due to the inaccuracy of the translation.
2. Ask this question where you read it, there is more information you need.
You indi
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 09:05:39
2. Ask this question where you read it, there is more information you need.
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 08:18:26
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 08:18:26
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Quote from: Kryptid on 31/08/2018 05:40:32
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 08:18:26
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/08/2018 05:40:32
For I am the God of science.
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For I am the God of science.
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Seriously?
1. Whilst reading and comprehension don't seem to be your your strong points, look at this again.
2. Have you not noticed that it is a quote from another forum member?
1. This is due to the inaccuracy of the translation.
2. Ask this question where you read it, there is more information you need.
You indi
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 09:05:39
2. Ask this question where you read it, there is more information you need.
You are claiming this is a quotye from Kryptid. It is not - hence my point about reading and comprehension not being one of your strong point. Look again at Kryptid's posts - this is not a statement he is making, he is quoting your friend TheBox. Claiming otherwise is dishonest.
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #28 on: 31/08/2018 14:37:59 »
Give me a link to the question TheBox.
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #29 on: 31/08/2018 14:42:58 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 14:37:59
Give me a link to the question TheBox.
What are you going on about?
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #30 on: 31/08/2018 17:34:42 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 08:18:26
Ask questions at the level of your status.
Seriously?

Why are so many people on this discussion board blind? I put Thebox's quote in my signature because it was so ridiculous that I couldn't ignore it. It even says, "Quote from: Thebox on 14/05/2018 08:57:39". Please try harder next time.

Here is a link to the post where he calls himself the "God of science": https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=73259.msg541982#msg541982:

Quote from: Thebox on 14/05/2018 08:57:39
GRRRRR, just no , I am not having it, you are insulting my intelligence.

Space is not tangible, it is verifiable that space cannot be destroyed. 

I am correct and ''you'' are incorrect. 

I am the hero of my story and the hero does not give in to subjective dogma and cognitive control,  the hero kick's ass on the dance floor.
Let's dance, I am the genius in this story , not ''you'' . 

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Now, do you really think that solid rock and liquid water behave the same way?
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #31 on: 31/08/2018 19:56:31 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/08/2018 05:40:32
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/08/2018 22:06:39
According to the lunar theory of tides, the Earth's crust at the latitude of London, with a frequency of twice a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter (2.5 times more).
https://ru.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Трудные_темы_курса_физики/Приливные_силы_и_волны
Then why, the highest tides are formed in the temperate zones and not at the equator?

So you think that solid rock and liquid water behave the same way? Seriously?
Absolutely right.
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #32 on: 31/08/2018 21:15:29 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 19:56:31
Absolutely right.

Alright then. Get back to me when you find instances of whirlpools, wind-blown waves, currents and tsunamis inside of Mount Everest.
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #33 on: 31/08/2018 21:30:16 »
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Quote from: Kryptid on 31/08/2018 05:40:32
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/08/2018 22:06:39
According to the lunar theory of tides, the Earth's crust at the latitude of London, with a frequency of twice a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter (2.5 times more).
https://ru.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Трудные_темы_курса_физики/Приливные_силы_и_волны
Then why, the highest tides are formed in the temperate zones and not at the equator?

So you think that solid rock and liquid water behave the same way? Seriously?
Absolutely right.
The gravity of the moon does not reach the rock and the water.
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #34 on: 31/08/2018 22:09:51 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 21:30:16
The gravity of the moon does not reach the rock and the water.

So you think the Earth has some kind of force field that keeps the Moon's gravity out now?

We know for a fact that the Moon's gravity does reach Earth and it can even be detected. Watch the following clip from Mythbusters starting at the 30:00 mark:


They state that they were able to detect the Moon passing overhead using their gravity meter.
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« Reply #35 on: 31/08/2018 22:24:20 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 21:30:16
The gravity of the moon does not reach the rock and the water.
That is strange, because if it didn't, the moon would not orbit the earth, it would travel in a straight line and fly off into space....
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #36 on: 31/08/2018 22:44:36 »
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Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 21:30:16
The gravity of the moon does not reach the rock and the water.

So you think the Earth has some kind of force field that keeps the Moon's gravity out now?

We know for a fact that the Moon's gravity does reach Earth and it can even be detected. Watch the following clip from Mythbusters starting at the 30:00 mark:


They state that they were able to detect the Moon passing overhead using their gravity meter.
Now let them measure gravity and tides at the equator, "there it is 2.5 times larger".
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #37 on: 31/08/2018 22:46:52 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 22:44:36
Now let them measure gravity and tides at the equator, there it is 2.5 times larger.

So now you agree that you were wrong when you said, "The gravity of the moon does not reach the rock and the water"? Also, gravity is not 2.5 times stronger at the equator. Where did you get that idea from?
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #38 on: 31/08/2018 23:17:49 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 11/08/2018 19:59:17
Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?

According to the lunar theory of tides, the Earth's crust at the latitude of London, with a frequency of twice a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter (2.5 times more).
https://ru.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Трудные_темы_курса_физики/Приливные_силы_и_волны
Then why, the highest tides are formed in the temperate zones and not at the equator?
The highest tides on Earth are formed in the Fandi Bay in North America - 18 m, Ungava Bay Quebec - 17m, at the mouth of the Severn River in England - 16 m, in the Bay of Mont-Saint-Michel in France - 15 m, in the mouths of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Penzhinskaya and Gizhiginskaya - 13 m , at the cape Nerpinsky in the Mezensky Bay - 11 m.

To answer this question, we need to name 5 gulfs in the equatorial zone, where the height of the tides exceeds 10 meters, otherwise the lunar theory about tides loses logic.

If to argue logically, at the equator the height of the tide should be 35-40 meters.
If, the Bay of Fundy was on the equator, then the height of the tide was 45 meters.
https://www.co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/faq2.html#26
The swirling theory of tides
 https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=73127.0 explains this inconsistency by the absence of whirlpools at the equator, as well as cyclones and anticyclones.
To form whirlpools, cyclones and anticyclones, the deflecting force of Coriolis is needed. At the equator, the Coriolis force is minimal and in the temperate zones, it is maximal.
If this post does not convince you of anything, you need to escape from this forum and science (quickly).
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Re: Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
« Reply #39 on: 31/08/2018 23:28:48 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 31/08/2018 23:17:49
If this post does not convince you of anything, you need to escape from this forum and science (quickly).

I guess that would leave you as the only member of the forum, now wouldn't it?

Funny how you ignored my questions about whether the Moon's gravity reaches the Earth or not.
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