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Re: Reactionless Drives Possible ?
« Reply #80 on: 20/11/2018 09:40:09 »
That's my 7th paper.

I'm doing research on the EM drive system currently, using a specifically designed antenna. Microwaves, microwave launcher, coaxial cables, bespoke tubing, the whole thing, like what Eagleworks worked on. I'm getting results like they didn't. For instance, the "pin" in the magnetron launcher chamber, owing to the EM resonance from the feedback of the system, shoots into the magnetron launcher like a bullet, to the point I've had to re-metal the magnetron launcher chamber. I've seen arcing. This is something else. So now I am trying to create the resonance more distal in the tubing structure, which isn't easy. Who can say they've done this research with the same results thus far?

Research has been done by various research agencies, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_vacuum_thruster, yet I have yet to encounter the thrust I have been able to generate thus far in reading the work of others.
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Re: Reactionless Drives Possible ?
« Reply #81 on: 20/11/2018 09:59:47 »
I've been sitting on the research for months while trying various antenna designs. My aim is to have propulsion in the "greater" chamber, not the chamber closest to the magnetron. That's hard though as it has to be really precision stuff. It's a like a water pipe of EM which fails (EM resonance as G) at its weakest point along the EM route, and even then its not easy to fail there when it does.
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Re: Reactionless Drives Possible ?
« Reply #82 on: 20/11/2018 10:10:17 »
I thought I could have the paper published by now based on the results in the magnetron launcher chamber, yet I thought I'd try to take it to another level.....a lot harder, and yes, a lot more work.


My point is, "its possible".
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Re: Reactionless Drives Possible ?
« Reply #83 on: 20/11/2018 10:14:41 »
Without the theory, no, not possible. Look at the Eagleworks research I outline in paper 7 , Experiment 2, fig 11-12. They would get next to nothing, according to the proposed theory.
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Re: Reactionless Drives Possible ?
« Reply #84 on: 20/11/2018 10:22:14 »
One of the things I am anticipating is that owing to its a completely new theory with a completely new research construction, there's nothing to compare it to. At the moment I'm looking for researchers who may have come across EM feedback using a microwave magnetron launcher whereby the coaxial connector pin that attaches to the magnetron launcher can jettison back into the magnetron launcher chamber. I've looked everywhere I can, and no results like that.
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Re: Reactionless Drives Possible ?
« Reply #85 on: 20/11/2018 10:53:32 »
How do I know its not an arcing effect? I connected the apparatus to a VDG, a Van De Graff generator, properly, as properly as I could, without trying to destroy the magnetron, obviously, to enhance the arcing.... it just blew the coaxial cable. There was no propulsion in the pin, as there was no "resonance" in the EM field owing to the commanding feature of the VDG voltage discharge "at" the region of the connection between the magnetron chamber launcher and coaxial cable (~20,000V). No propulsion. The only propulsion was with a clean resonance which was "maximised" in the chamber, in the magnetron launcher chamber", the part of the pin which as the Alcubierre drive suggests with the augmented theory I propose creates a region of spatial distortion via the EM feedback sufficient enough to accelerate that part of the pin to accelerate into the chamber.


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Re: Reactionless Drives Possible ?
« Reply #86 on: 20/11/2018 11:02:15 »
My concern was, "why does the pin jettison out like a bullet"?

And here's the thing.....temporal distortion. Alcubierre proposed FTL, faster than light time, yet the theory I'm holding to is FTN, faster than normal time, which "I can", because the theory of time used here is different, its the "golden ratio" theory of time, its not a simple arrow....it can be compressed, sped up, like an accordion, so the event in using this process of EM-G is a "compression" of space-time, as a faster than normal event using "negative energy".

Who would think that's true without over 100 pages of theory and equations to make that proposal?
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Re: Reactionless Drives Possible ?
« Reply #87 on: 20/11/2018 11:10:30 »
Some could ask why I would say any of this before I release the paper?

I'm fairly sure there's no other way to get to paper 8 than papers 1-7.

Have I had feedback on papers 1-7?

Not much.

The chances are heavily weighted against me anyway thus far. I'll be impressed in a BB-Theorist explaining my results anyway. How can I not be?
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Re: Reactionless Drives Possible ?
« Reply #88 on: 20/11/2018 19:20:20 »
Quote from: Professor Mega-Mind on 20/11/2018 03:22:45
  I retire from the attempt .
You were never part of it.
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Re: Reactionless Drives Possible ?
« Reply #89 on: 20/11/2018 19:22:08 »
Quote from: opportunity on 20/11/2018 09:31:21
A reactionless drive is possible in theory, yet it requires eliminating the idea of "antiparticles".
Well, antiparticles exist.
So you can't "eliminate the idea of antiparticles".
So your drive fails.

You can stop now.
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Re: Reactionless Drives Possible ?
« Reply #90 on: 20/11/2018 21:10:04 »
Quote from: opportunity on 20/11/2018 09:31:21
Anti-particles aimed to explain the idea of "negative energy", yet we have no proof in science of the existence of anti-particles, because of the annihilation principle with matter. Very convenient, right?

(1) Antiparticles don't have negative energy.
(2) Antiparticles are readily detected. Even a simple cloud chamber can detect positrons (it's possible to show that their paths curl by the same amount and in the opposite direction of electrons, demonstrating that they have the same charge-to-mass ratio as the electron while having the opposite charge. Their annihilation with electrons give off a tell-tale pair (or trio) of photons with a total energy equal to double the electron's mass-energy (demonstrating that positrons have equal mass to electrons): https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/359954/how-can-a-charge-of-a-particle-be-determined-through-its-cloud-chamber-photograp
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« Reply #91 on: 22/11/2018 18:04:43 »
..................Save Face .
I herein propose a completely impractical , yet powerful and transparent , mechanism to produce a net gain in linear momentum .  Said device translates the latitudinal oscillations of EMR from up and down motion , to forward motion .  The basic mode d'emploi is the well-known Compton Effect .  The engine's layout is as such : A 1GW power plant , a high-energy x-ray laser capable of producing a 1GW beam , a long , perfectly reflective in all ways , tube of extremely dense plasma , injectors to replace ejected electrons .  The mode d'emploi is the Compton Effect .  Operation of the device would proceed as follows : The laser is fired continuously .  This produces ~1lb of thrust .  The H.E.x-rays  race down the tube , inducing Compton Scattering whenever it encounters an electron .  This induces a forward motion to the electron , dropping the e-m frequency in the process .  This process is repeated an infinitude of times , until the light-energy is mostly consumed , and the electrons have reached a peak velocity .  The result is a cloud of electrons flying out of the tube exit at enormous speed , with enormous momentum as well .  A plasma "catch net" affixed to the tube exit would thus have enormous mumentum transferred to it .  Returning the electrons to the injectors would , of course , keep the cycle going .  The end result would be an "engine" producing over ten million pounds of thrust , IN THEORY . 
This does not violate "conservation of momentum" , it simply converts some of lights "internal" momentum into linear momentum of the stricken particles . 
This "Compton Drive" could have efficiencies comparable to modern heat engines , if it could be compacted down to a manageable size .
Well , there it is !  An effective reactionless drive , that doesn't violate conservation of momentum  or energy .
Enjoy chewing on this !.........P.M.
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             4/10/2022
》Updated Elucidation《
 If one pictures an arriving photon as a whirling aircraft propeller approaching at speed, then striking a stationary ball with it's hub , then one sees the normal interaction of matter and reflecting light .
Conversely , if one pictures the propeller striking the ball with a whirling blade , then one sees the abovementioned Compton-Drive .
It is apparent that the ball struck by the blade will be hit forward much harder , despite the blade having an identical forward velocity to the hub .
In real terms , this means that instead of a 1-gigawatt beam of HEX-rays producing ~ 2-pounds of pressure on a reflector , it can produce many times that , by sacrificing some of it's intrinsic energy .

**.The above is of course , a theoretical proposal , subject to experimental verification .

*.Broaching such is the very reason for the existence of forums of this type .
« Last Edit: 10/04/2022 19:18:00 by Professor Mega-Mind »
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« Reply #92 on: 22/11/2018 18:20:39 »
Quote from: Professor Mega-Mind on 22/11/2018 18:04:43
A "catch net" affixed to the tube exit would thus have enormous mumentum transferred to it .  Returning the electrons to the injectors would , of course , keep the cycle going . 

If you're capturing the electrons and returning them to their starting point, then that will cancel out all of the thrust you sought to gain by ejecting them from the engine. So your engine produces no thrust at all.

Quote from: Professor Mega-Mind on 22/11/2018 18:04:43
An effective reactionless drive , that doesn't violate conservation of momentum

This is an oxymoron. A reactionless drive violates conservation of momentum by its very definition.
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« Reply #93 on: 22/11/2018 18:50:06 »
Eee-fehk-tive !
Ask an actual physics master to track the momentum exchanges as I laid them out .  1 pound north thrust , 1 megapound south thrust !  The trick is converting the stored energy of the photons into forward momentum .  It's analogous to two surfers roped together with a 100 yard-long cord .  One bobs up and down , the other catches the same wave , and pulls the first one along!
See ?  It's protected by maagic !
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« Reply #94 on: 22/11/2018 18:53:31 »
The thrust generated by the electrons couldn't be bigger than the thrust generated by the original laser beam.
YOu have introduced an extra complexity for nothing because you simply don't understand the science.

Why not learn some?
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« Reply #95 on: 22/11/2018 19:49:43 »
Vision lacking man !  The scale of the thing is escaping you !
Picture a full gigawatt of power translated into linear momentum .  This effect is part of why intergalactic plasma reaches such a high temperature  ( velocity ) .  Translate 1GW into thrust at even lousy jet engine levels of efficiency , spout that number at me !
"Hey , Rocky , watch me pull a lion outa my hat !" .
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« Reply #96 on: 22/11/2018 20:20:34 »
Quote from: Professor Mega-Mind on 22/11/2018 19:49:43
Picture a full gigawatt of power translated into linear momentum .
You lack the understanding to have vision.

Quote from: Professor Mega-Mind on 22/11/2018 19:49:43
Translate 1GW into thrust at even lousy jet engine levels of efficiency , spout that number at me !
There isn't "a number".

If you knew what you were doing, you would know that.

Here's a related question for you.
Imagine a plane- a 474 jet - on the runway.
It's getting ready to take off. The engines are run up to full throttle and the pilot is about to release the brakes and set off.

At that point, how much power are the engines delivering to the plane?

(feel free to google any data you need.)
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« Reply #97 on: 22/11/2018 21:10:22 »
Quote from: Professor Mega-Mind on 22/11/2018 18:50:06
Eee-fehk-tive !
Ask an actual physics master to track the momentum exchanges as I laid them out .  1 pound north thrust , 1 megapound south thrust !  The trick is converting the stored energy of the photons into forward momentum .  It's analogous to two surfers roped together with a 100 yard-long cord .  One bobs up and down , the other catches the same wave , and pulls the first one along!
See ?  It's protected by maagic !
P.

It doesn't matter how many pounds of thrust the engine generates by moving the electrons. The moment that your net catches those electrons and brings them to a halt, every bit of that thrust that was initially pushing the engine forward is now forcing that engine to a cold stop. If you allowed the electrons to shoot out the back of the engine without stopping them, you'd have a working engine. As soon as you put something on it to catch those electrons, it will hold itself back. It's like trying to power a sailboat by putting a fan on the boat in order to blow into the sail.
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« Reply #98 on: 23/11/2018 03:22:10 »
You are fundamentally correct .  I am actually trying to pry out a way to access the energy contained within the photon .  Using it to create more photons , to do work , to affect the energy/momentum balance any way possible , is my goal .  It may not be possible yet , but near-future physics may make that possible .  I aim to spur R&D in that direction .  Positive support may make a significant difference in the way the thing unfolds .
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« Reply #99 on: 23/11/2018 04:38:01 »
Quote from: Professor Mega-Mind on 23/11/2018 03:22:10
I am actually trying to pry out a way to access the energy contained within the photon .

It can be done without violating conservation laws and it's pretty easy. Shoot a laser beam out the back of your ship. That will produce thrust.
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