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A species is a sample.
The trick of politics is to persuade people that things could be better if they voted for you. On balance, there is no evidence to support this, though things did improve a lot in the UK in 1945. It is difficult to see how any recruit from the chaotic suburbs of London or the godless wastelands of Birmingham to the well-ordered beatings and sex slavery of ISIS has actually benefitted from the experience.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 22/12/2021 14:00:33A species is a sample.No, it's a subset. A subset cannot be a good sample since it is by definition atypical.
What makes you think that life under ISIS is well ordered?
Why pick species specifically?
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 22/12/2021 21:40:31Why pick species specifically?You did, in #2284 above
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 19/12/2021 13:29:08Should we collaborate to organize mass suicide to give the best thing to earth?Why, or why not?Because what is best for the rest of the planet is not best for us. That is the whole point of this discussion: species are competitive for resources, and pollute their environment with their waste products.
Should we collaborate to organize mass suicide to give the best thing to earth?Why, or why not?
Not sure what your point is here. Mine is that there cannot be a universal goal if every living thing (or every species) is in competition with at least one other. The best you can hope for is coexistence by orthogonal exploitation of the environment (Darwin's finches).
Have you considered mutualistic symbiosis?
Any currently existing conscious being in the universe are products of the efforts done by conscious beings that have existed in the past, without exception.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 26/12/2021 07:25:24Have you considered mutualistic symbiosis? Mutually symbiotic organisms are rare and usually consume material that other species would find useful too. Collaboration may improve your competitiveness, but you are still competing!
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 26/12/2021 13:31:24Any currently existing conscious being in the universe are products of the efforts done by conscious beings that have existed in the past, without exception. So you think abiogenesis is impossible? That's an axiom of religion, not science.
What's the highest level of consciousness produced through abiogenesis?
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 27/12/2021 22:28:40What's the highest level of consciousness produced through abiogenesis?In your opinion, yourself, after many, many generations of evolution.
I found this tweet, which is in line with this thread. QuoteNaval (@naval) tweeted at 0:23 PM on Thu, Dec 30, 2021:Evolution only has to use genes to get to a universal computer species, and then the whole system switches to memetic evolution.The product of memetic evolution, aka knowledge, allows that species to modify genes and its environment directly after that.(https://twitter.com/naval/status/1476423727529152512?t=6AXZpa9ng0ol9tBDUzCFYg&s=03)
Naval (@naval) tweeted at 0:23 PM on Thu, Dec 30, 2021:Evolution only has to use genes to get to a universal computer species, and then the whole system switches to memetic evolution.The product of memetic evolution, aka knowledge, allows that species to modify genes and its environment directly after that.(https://twitter.com/naval/status/1476423727529152512?t=6AXZpa9ng0ol9tBDUzCFYg&s=03)
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If the immoral wins, there would be no conscious being in the future
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