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So long as there are different perspectives, these will negate universality.
So the only way we can determine the UMS is to eliminate all other points of view. Four notorious moral philosophers attempted this in the 20th century, but fascism, communism (two varieties) and Japanese imperialism, despite being implemented by well armed and ruthless enthusiasts, were all eventually rejected by the ungrateful herd of confused and unenlightened humans.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 30/08/2023 14:53:59Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 29/04/2023 07:59:47I've uploaded a new video about the most universal goal logically conceivable. It describes goal in the most general sense, which should precede the first video about the universal terminal goal.A method to arrive to the universal terminal goal.Start with an arbitrary goal.Identify all of its requirements.Remove any requirements which can be removed without making the goal stops being a goal.Whatever remains is the one we are looking for.If we keep going all the way down, we're left with the bare minimum requirements for a goal, which I defined as pursued condition. It requires the existence of at least one entity with capacity to pursue it, which I called conscious entitiy. The existence of goal also requires the existence of the universe and time. But their existence aren't affected by any action of conscious entities, which makes it irrelevant to the search for a universal goal.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 29/04/2023 07:59:47I've uploaded a new video about the most universal goal logically conceivable. It describes goal in the most general sense, which should precede the first video about the universal terminal goal.A method to arrive to the universal terminal goal.Start with an arbitrary goal.Identify all of its requirements.Remove any requirements which can be removed without making the goal stops being a goal.Whatever remains is the one we are looking for.
I've uploaded a new video about the most universal goal logically conceivable. It describes goal in the most general sense, which should precede the first video about the universal terminal goal.
If we keep going all the way down, we're left with the bare minimum requirements for a goal, which I defined as pursued condition. It requires the existence of at least one entity with capacity to pursue it, which I called conscious entitiy.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 18/09/2023 08:41:10If we keep going all the way down, we're left with the bare minimum requirements for a goal, which I defined as pursued condition. It requires the existence of at least one entity with capacity to pursue it, which I called conscious entitiy.But the problem is that we have several billion entities with the capacity to pursue their own chosen goals, some of which are mutually exclusive.
But who defines it? So far, all you have suggested is meaningless stuff about the survival of conscious entities. If we just take this planet for a start, there are about 8,000,000 distinct species of things you might consider to be conscious entities, some of which are interdependent but many are mutually antagonistic or at least competitive. And at least as many species have existed and are now extinct. Clearly they can't all survive indefinitely, so you have to choose.
So cockroaches, tardigrades, yeasts, or whatever living slime first emerged on this planet. Certainly not humans because we don't have sufficient genomic plasticity to adapt and evolve.
So they won't be human - that's evolution of species.
However it is doubtful whether anything like an ape could colonise a planet that isn't exactly like Earth.
Quote from: alancalverd on 20/09/2023 22:54:25So they won't be human - that's evolution of species.Is it really a problem?
Only if you talk about "we". And AFAIK no other species gives a damn about intergalactic colonisation, or whatever "consciousness" means.
What this comes down to is your personal ambition to pollute the rest of the universe. Not sure the rest of the universe is sympathetic.
Back to "we", I see! This is all vanity. Everyone should be prepared for his own death, and realise that nothing really matters in the long run - it's all just chemistry and physics.