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If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« on: 28/12/2018 04:40:50 »
If two objects are in quantum entanglement, and their spatial position changes relative to each other, does that change their quantum entangled state?
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #1 on: 28/12/2018 05:17:41 »
Not as I understand it, no.
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #2 on: 28/12/2018 05:21:26 »
Q-E could be gravity then, right?

The Q-E status of each is not being changed, gravity is not electrodynamics, their distance has changed though. Why isn't gravity akin to Q-E?


Gravity still operates normally despite space expanding, right?
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #3 on: 28/12/2018 05:25:09 »
Quote from: opportunity on 28/12/2018 05:21:26
Q-E could be gravity then, right?

The Q-E status of each is not being changed, gravity is not electrodynamics, their distance has changed though. Why isn't gravity akin to Q-E?

(1) Quantum entanglement does not impose an attractive force between the two objects that are entangled.
(2) Quantum entanglement is fragile and easily broken by slight disturbances. Gravity persists regardless of how extreme disturbances may become.
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #4 on: 28/12/2018 05:27:47 »
1 and 2, yes of course.

Yet you said that there is no evidence to suggest Q-E is altered by a change in distance between entities in Q-E.
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #5 on: 28/12/2018 05:30:01 »
Gravity isn't marbles. It's not a gross thing as we think it is walking on a planet. Its far more refined, well, should be.

Surely gravity has its nuances on a quantum scale?
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #6 on: 28/12/2018 05:31:18 »
Quote from: opportunity on 28/12/2018 05:27:47
Yet you said that there is no evidence to suggest Q-E is altered by a change in distance between entities in Q-E.

And?

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Gravity isn't marbles. It's not a gross thing as we think it is walking on a planet. Its far more refined, well, should be.

I don't know what you're trying to say with this.

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Surely gravity has its nuances on a quantum scale?

Probably, but it isn't the same thing as quantum entanglement.
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #7 on: 28/12/2018 05:35:18 »
"Probably"?

What algorithm of probability?

What am I getting at?

Well, there's a lot we don't know about Q-E, how space can expand in between particles in Q-E, presumably, right? That's why I asked the question......who's got good data?
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #8 on: 28/12/2018 05:37:30 »
Put it this way, if space expands between two masses, in a star galaxy thing, and these galaxies show no change in shape, no change in gravity, yet space is expanding in between them, and you know what I am referring to re. a previous post, what's the difference between that and two objects in Q-E?
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #9 on: 28/12/2018 05:39:05 »
Quote from: opportunity on 28/12/2018 05:35:18
What algorithm of probability?

I don't understand that sentence either.

Quote from: opportunity on 28/12/2018 05:35:18
What am I getting at?

I wish I knew.

Quote from: opportunity on 28/12/2018 05:35:18
Well, there's a lot we don't know about Q-E, how space can expand in between particles in Q-E, presumably, right?

It's no different than space expanding between particles that aren't entangled.

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Put it this way, if space expands between two masses, in a star galaxy thing, and these galaxies show no change in shape, no change in gravity, yet space is expanding in between them, and you know what I am referring to re. a previous post, what's the difference between that and two objects in Q-E?

Quantum entanglement does nothing to prevent two entangled objects from moving relative to each other, so there's no similarity at all.
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #10 on: 28/12/2018 05:45:02 »
Quantum entanglement is all about E-M status, the quantum status of a particle. Distance apparently means nothing re. Q-E and "space". Its an immediate thing through space, despite a change of distance. I think I agree,

So, EM changes crash the status, we agree on that....but does gravity crash the status of Q-E between particles?

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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #11 on: 28/12/2018 05:48:47 »
Quote from: opportunity on 28/12/2018 05:45:02
but does gravity crash the status of Q-E between particles?

In itself? I don't see why it should. A collision caused by gravitational attraction should be able to, though.
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #12 on: 28/12/2018 05:51:07 »
If not, why can't gravity according to its formula of distance and force as Newton proposed be a part of the Q-E status between particles, and thus be a type of "infinite speed" of propagation? Has there been any theories in history along this possibility?
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #13 on: 28/12/2018 05:55:35 »
If space is expanding therefore, by this reasoning, between galaxies in Q-E, they would get "bigger".
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #14 on: 28/12/2018 05:58:00 »
This sort of thing:


http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/science-universe-not-expanding-01940.html


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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #15 on: 28/12/2018 06:04:23 »
Please. please learn how to use the edit function...

Quote from: opportunity on 28/12/2018 05:51:07
If not, why can't gravity according to its formula of distance and force as Newton proposed be a part of the Q-E status between particles

You'd first need to explain what it would mean for the gravitational state between two bodies to be entangled.

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and thus be a type of "infinite speed" of propagation?

Gravity doesn't propagate at infinite speed. That would violate causality.

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Has there been any theories in history along this possibility?

I don't know.

Quote from: opportunity on 28/12/2018 05:55:35
If space is expanding therefore, by this reasoning, between galaxies in Q-E, they would get "bigger".

Except they don't.

Quote from: opportunity on 28/12/2018 05:58:00
This sort of thing:


http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/science-universe-not-expanding-01940.html

It's an interesting link, but the fact that it was posted four years ago and has caused no obvious breakthroughs in astronomy since then suggests that the study was either flawed or has not been confirmed by an independent group. So I wouldn't hold my breath on it being true.
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #16 on: 28/12/2018 06:19:41 »
That's what I think about you.....you treat my comments like an autopsy, you knit-pick like a freaking monkey (sorry, but you do do that), you fail to see the forest for the trees, like a few others. That's ok. That's your style.

Can I answer your question?

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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #17 on: 28/12/2018 06:23:26 »
If Q-E isn't disrupted by spatial changes, and gravity isn't concerned with spatial changes (other than proper gravity "d" equations), how are you developing this Dyson sphere of G influences with an expanding universe for "galaxies"?
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #18 on: 28/12/2018 06:26:45 »
Quote from: opportunity on 28/12/2018 06:19:41
you fail to see the forest for the trees, like a few others.

What does that mean in this case?

Quote from: opportunity on 28/12/2018 06:19:41
Can I answer your question?

I'm not sure what question you are referring to, but sure.

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and gravity isn't concerned with spatial changes (other than proper gravity "d" equations)

The "d" in those equations is very, very important. That's exactly why the expansion of space between galaxies can push them further apart without actually making the galaxies themselves expand.

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how are you developing this Dyson sphere of G influences with an expanding universe for "galaxies"?

Can you rephrase this question, please?
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Re: If two objects are in quantum entanglement.....?
« Reply #19 on: 28/12/2018 06:38:06 »
Does the gravity of galaxies block the in-between-galaxy BBT spatial expansion? If so, is there Q-E between galaxies? Why not say that gravity localised in a way that anything that reduces to 0-gravity, like in between galaxies, is expanded owing to the BBT spatial expansion?


If Q-E surpasses gravity, can you explain the shape of the universe that way?
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