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How do we measure the energy of a photon?

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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #600 on: 28/05/2020 21:38:14 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 28/05/2020 21:35:22
Quote from: Kryptid on 28/05/2020 21:33:29
I would like to see where he posted that.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=75960.msg571703#msg571703

The only one in that post claiming that Bored Chemist gets pleasure from belittling people is you.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #601 on: 28/05/2020 21:41:55 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 28/05/2020 21:21:59
Why are you replying to a BoredChemist post? BoredChemist  has admitted in a previous post that he gets pleasure from belittling people.
So, now we have had a proper look, we see that, in addition to being a troll, you are a liar.

Why do you do it?
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #602 on: 28/05/2020 21:43:02 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 28/05/2020 21:33:29
Because I see this same thing happen all too often here. When people with fringe/alternative views are called out by another member, they often resort to calling that member a troll.
So you are biased against members with alternative/fringe views? No wonder I upset you! Suggest you let accused internet trolls fight their own battles. Otherwise you may be seen to siding with internet trolls.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #603 on: 28/05/2020 21:46:15 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 28/05/2020 21:43:02
So you are biased against members with alternative/fringe views?

Not against the members, but rather against statements that they make that are either unsupported by evidence or contradicted by known evidence.

Quote from: mxplxxx on 28/05/2020 21:43:02
No wonder I upset you!

Whoever said you upset me?

Quote from: mxplxxx on 28/05/2020 21:43:02
Suggest you accused internet trolls fight their own battles. Otherwise you may be seen to siding with internet trolls.

Are you sure you know what a troll is? Someone isn't a troll just because they disagree with you.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #604 on: 28/05/2020 21:59:49 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 28/05/2020 21:46:15
Whoever said you upset me?
An educated guess. I have a psychology degree. You seem to be a conservative and averse to change or innovation.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #605 on: 28/05/2020 22:01:46 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 28/05/2020 21:46:15
Are you sure you know what a troll is? Someone isn't a troll just because they disagree with you.
I have a psychology degree (Australian College of Applied Psychology 2013).
« Last Edit: 28/05/2020 22:04:08 by mxplxxx »
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #606 on: 28/05/2020 22:06:43 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 28/05/2020 21:59:49
An educated guess. I have a psychology degree. You seem to be a conservative and averse to change or innovation.

(1) Your comments don't upset me. They are more likely to just make me roll my eyes.
(2) Whether or not I'm conservative strongly depends upon how you define it. My personal values are in many ways conservative, but my political values lean towards liberal. I'm pretty sure that upholding science as the current state of evidence supports is neither conservative nor liberal. Politics shouldn't have any place in science.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #607 on: 28/05/2020 22:07:46 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 28/05/2020 21:43:02
So you are biased against members with alternative/fringe views?
The alternative to being right is being wrong.
There's nothing "fringe" about it.
You make absurd statements then lie about me when you get  called out.

Quote from: mxplxxx on 28/05/2020 21:43:02
Otherwise you may be seen to siding with internet trolls.
Don't worry.
We are not on your side.

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I have a psychology degree
You forgot to answer the question.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #608 on: 28/05/2020 22:08:39 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 28/05/2020 21:59:49
You seem to be a conservative and averse to change or innovation.
Being wrong about, for example, fermions, is not "change or innovation", is it?
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #609 on: 29/05/2020 15:46:18 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 27/05/2020 23:34:50
Quote from: mxplxxx on 27/05/2020 22:49:40
Can you please elucidate me as to how fermions interact, especially as all fermions obey the Pauli Exclusion principle.

If they didn't interact, then the Pauli exclusion principle wouldn't even exist. One fermion obviously has to be able to interact with the other one, otherwise you could put as many fermions in one place and state as you wanted.
Doesn't answer my question though, which suggests to me that you don't know how fermions interact. Better find out otherwise people may start laughing at you:)
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #610 on: 29/05/2020 15:58:30 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 28/05/2020 17:44:40
Quote from: alancalverd on 28/05/2020 16:01:42
Quote from: mxplxxx on 27/05/2020 22:49:40
Do you really think I could attract 44000+ views without knowing basic physics?
No problem. You can get a lot more, and even become President of the USA, without knowing anything.
IYHO and what does this say about people who follow such a person :)?

No answer to this so. No probs; I would not be in any hurry to if I were you. You do realize that you have probably insulted many of the 45000 plus people who seem to find my posts interesting. Tell me what do you think the energy E in E=hf means. Basic physics but I am betting you will struggle to answer my question.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #611 on: 29/05/2020 17:35:15 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 29/05/2020 15:46:18
Doesn't answer my question though, which suggests to me that you don't know how fermions interact. Better find out otherwise people may start laughing at you:)

They interact using one of the four fundamental forces (electromagnetism, gravitation, strong nuclear and weak nuclear). That's pretty common knowledge.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #612 on: 29/05/2020 17:45:29 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 27/05/2020 22:49:40
Can you please elucidate me as to how fermions interact
In addition to not knowing about fermions, you also don't know what elucidate means.
We can't make you clear.

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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #613 on: 29/05/2020 17:46:05 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 29/05/2020 15:46:18
Doesn't answer my question though, which suggests to me that you don't know how fermions interact
It suggests that nobody bothered to try to answer a question which didn't make sense.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #614 on: 29/05/2020 17:49:15 »
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Doesn't answer my question though, which suggests to me that you don't know how fermions interact. Better find out otherwise people may start laughing at you:)

They interact using one of the four fundamental forces (electromagnetism, gravitation, strong nuclear and weak nuclear). That's pretty common knowledge.
yes they do, but it is not fermions interacting. What interacts are a fermion and a boson. Fermions can't interact. Two electrons e.g. cannot interact. Maybe you can tell me then how a fermion and a boson interact?

PS do you and BC have some kind of a mutual admiration club going?
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #615 on: 29/05/2020 17:49:54 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 29/05/2020 15:58:30
Basic physics but I am betting you will struggle to answer my question.
You forgot to ask a meaningful question.

However, if you think the that fermions interact is basic physics (and, yes, it s) then why did you say they don't interact?

Are you telling us that you don't know basic physics?

Well, I guess that answers this.
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Do you really think I could attract 44000+ views without knowing basic physics?

You did get those posts and you, by your own admission, don't know basic physics.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #616 on: 29/05/2020 17:52:38 »
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Doesn't answer my question though, which suggests to me that you don't know how fermions interact. Better find out otherwise people may start laughing at you:)

They interact using one of the four fundamental forces (electromagnetism, gravitation, strong nuclear and weak nuclear). That's pretty common knowledge.
yes they do, but it is not fermions interacting. What interacts are a fermion and a boson. Fermions can't interact. Two electrons e.g. cannot interact.
What you seem to have misunderstood is that the interaction of two fermions- for example two electrons- is mediated by bosons- virtual photons in this case.

But the fermions still interact.If one electron wasn't there, the other electron would behave differently.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #617 on: 29/05/2020 17:59:40 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 29/05/2020 17:49:15
yes they do, but it is not fermions interacting. What interacts are a fermion and a boson. Fermions can't interact. Two electrons e.g. cannot interact.

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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #618 on: 29/05/2020 18:25:57 »
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yes they do, but it is not fermions interacting. What interacts are a fermion and a boson. Fermions can't interact. Two electrons e.g. cannot interact.

"Officer, I didn't kill him, the bullet did!"
Good for a laugh:) "Mxplxxx, I wasn't wrong, my logic was"
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #619 on: 29/05/2020 20:59:39 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 29/05/2020 18:25:57
Good for a laugh:) "Mxplxxx, I wasn't wrong, my logic was"

Then by your reasoning, you, Bored Chemist and I are not interacting right now. So if you read anything from Bored Chemist or me that you don't like, you shouldn't complain about us. Instead, you should complain about the light coming from your computer screen.
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