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How do we measure the energy of a photon?

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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #800 on: 16/05/2023 08:49:21 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 16/05/2023 01:14:05
Pity you can't offer your understanding of e=hf.
Again; you say I can't.
But in fact, I can. Maybe it's because because I am (rather than was)  one of the analysts at a ?1.1 trillion pa outfit.
I have already pointed this out to you.

Why do you keep saying things that are not true?
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #801 on: 16/05/2023 08:53:46 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 16/05/2023 01:04:36
So you can't explain it to me, or maybe you just don't know.
And, once again for the "hard of thinking"...
I could explain it.
But my explanation would look a lot like the one in WIKI and you already said you are not able to to follow that. (I assume it's because you simply are not clever enough.)
The point is not that I don't know- because, obviously,I do.
The point is that even if I explained it to you it seems very likely that you still wouldn't understand it.

So why would I waste my time?

In particular, why would I waste my time for the benefit of someone who lies about me?
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #802 on: 16/05/2023 10:23:20 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 16/05/2023 09:39:40
Because it may increase your credibility from where it currently sits close to zero.
LOL.
Seriously, it's liars who have no credibility; you know people who say things like "
Quote from: mxplxxx on 15/05/2023 13:25:50
You confessed to not being "a miraculously good teacher"
when they said nothing of the sort.
Another way to blow your own credibility is to try to "borrow" someone else's.
Quote from: mxplxxx on 15/05/2023 13:25:50
I was a senior analyst/programmer for a $50 billion pa company.
The important word there is "was".
:-)
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #803 on: 09/08/2023 10:35:49 »
4dAbstractions is a computer system that allows us to simulate Reality.

A 4dSystem is the base object of 4dAbstractions.

All objects in 4dAbstractions are types of 4dSystems.

An App.System allows us to simulate Reality.

It consists primarily of a central App.Star system plus the following App.Subsystems:

1. Datastore.System - 1D Data storage
2. Data.System - 2d abstraction hierarchy
3. Display.System - 3d representation of  2d Data.System. (see See https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkkAzGDByUeBpv9KsnyPS2utrwYhdg?e=WTNURu)
4. Driver.System - 4d App Driver (or e.g. Punter in 4dRacing)

See https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=75960.msg640534;topicseen#msg640534
This is a simulation of a SARS-COV-2 Virus using 4dAbstractions.

This App structure allows us to simulate Gravity. 4dGravity is the set of calculations that allow a 2d Data.System to be transformed into a 3d Display.System.

Given that Reality is likely a type of computer system, this transformation is likely how Reality creates gravity.

The structure also allows us to simulate the Big Bang where data is transformed from a 1D Datastore.System to a  2d Data.System to a 3d Reality.

A Person.App in 4dAbstractions is a type of Driver.System that is time-enabled.
 
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #804 on: 09/08/2023 11:06:09 »
And what has post #806 got to do with photon energy? Looks to me that this thread is turning into "my bodily appendage is bigger than yours".
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #805 on: 09/08/2023 12:19:23 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 16/05/2023 14:59:27
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/05/2023 08:49:21
I am (rather than was)  one of the analysts at a ?1.1 trillion pa outfit.

Can't locate a company on Google that EARNS more than $1 trillion p.a.. Microsoft, and a few others are WORTH more than $1 trillion p.a.. No chance you are fibbing here is there:)



I didn't say it was a company, did I?
I remain an analyst at an outfit with a 1.1 trillion dollar turnover.

And calling me a liar doesn't help anyone, does it?
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #806 on: 09/08/2023 15:25:14 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 09/08/2023 10:35:49
4dAbstractions is a computer system that allows us to simulate Reality.
What are you talking about?
I put "4dAbstractions" into google and the only hit is this thread.  So this is something you just made up?
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #807 on: 09/08/2023 16:22:18 »
Quote from: Origin on 09/08/2023 15:25:14
So this is something you just made up?
It is.
That point has already been made.

Quote from: paul cotter on 09/08/2023 11:06:09
And what has post #806 got to do with photon energy?
Nothing, but, this approach means the OP only has one thread full of rambling junk.
That's probably a good thing.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #808 on: 09/08/2023 17:18:48 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 09/08/2023 10:35:49
4dAbstractions is a computer system that allows us to simulate Reality.

A 4dSystem is the base object of 4dAbstractions.

All objects in 4dAbstractions are types of 4dSystems.

An App.System allows us to simulate Reality.

It consists primarily of a central App.Star system plus the following App.Subsystems:

1. Datastore.System - 1D Data storage
2. Data.System - 2d abstraction hierarchy
3. Display.System - 3d representation of  2d Data.System.
4. Driver.System - 4d App Driver (or e.g. Punter in 4dRacing)

This structure allows us to simulate Gravity. 4dGravity is the set of calculations that allow a 2d Data.System to be transformed into a 3d Display.System.

Given that Reality is likely a type of computer system, this transformation is likely how Reality creates gravity.

The structure also allows us to simulate the Big Bang where data is transformed from a 1D Datastore.System to a  2d Data.System to a 3d Reality.

A Person.App in 4dAbstractions is a type of Driver.System that is time-enabled.
 

What kind of experiment(s) can we perform to test these assertions?
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #809 on: 10/08/2023 06:30:05 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 10/08/2023 00:57:01
None. The software is for personal use only.

So it's not a new theory?
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #810 on: 10/08/2023 08:29:53 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 10/08/2023 07:49:41
Quote from: Kryptid on 10/08/2023 06:30:05
Quote from: mxplxxx on 10/08/2023 00:57:01
None. The software is for personal use only.

So it's not a new theory?
What makes you think that?
Well, it's not new, and it's not a theory.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #811 on: 23/09/2023 06:43:39 »
2d Systems exist, both in Reality and 4dAbstractions, because they are so much smaller than the corresponding 3d systems. e.g. a 2d Universe would not contain variables for Space. A hologram, for example, is a 2d System that can be expanded to a 3d System.

3d Systems in Visual Basic are very well catered for by the language via Partial classes. A 4dAbstractions system contains a Partial class for 2d Code and a Partial class for 3d Code. THe 2d Code handles 2d Abstraction hierarches. The 3d Code handles 3d objects such as buttons, menus etc. The 2d Partial class reacts to events in the 3d Class and calls functions in the 3d class.

4dAbstractions uses this scheme to convert 2d abstraction hierarchies to single 3d objects. The top of a hierarchy contains a Merge function that converts the 2d part of an abstraction hierarchy into a single 3d Object. Merge function code is attached.

Is this type of system present in Reality? Don't know, but the existence of positive and negative particles would suggest something similar exists.

Code: [Select]
            Public Sub Merge()

                Dim MergedForm As Global.System.Windows.Forms.Form = New Global.System.Windows.Forms.Form

                Merge1(CurrentSystem:=Me, MergedForm:=MergedForm)

                MergedForm.Show()

            End Sub

            Public Sub Merge1(CurrentSystem As Object, MergedForm As Object)

                Try
                    For Each currentcontrol As Object In CurrentSystem.usercontrol.controls
                        MergedForm.Controls.Add(currentcontrol)
                    Next
                Catch
                End Try

                For Each displaysystem As Object In CurrentSystem.Subsystems.Values
                    Merge1(CurrentSystem:=displaysystem, MergedForm:=MergedForm)
                Next

            End Sub
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #812 on: 13/10/2023 12:47:07 »
149000 views and the best is yet to come. 8)
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #813 on: 15/11/2023 22:37:52 »
From the Age newspaper, Melbourne, Australia.

"Last year, global astronomers seized on telescope data that picked up evidence of an explosion called a luminous fast blue optical transient, or LFBOT. Only a handful of these blasts, which explode with the energy of 100 billion stars, have been discovered since the first in 2018."

As described in the current post, the universe is composed of systems. Each system is composed of subsystems. The centre of each system is a special type of system, very often a black hole. In a solar system, the central system is a sun. The central system is what is being observed exploding as a LFBOT. So a sun becomes a super nova, and the central system of e.g. a galactic cluster becomes a LFBOT (or "Tassie Devil" as it is fittingly otherwise known).
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #814 on: 16/11/2023 11:14:18 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 15/11/2023 22:37:52
. In a solar system, the central system is a sun. The central system is what is being observed exploding as a LFBOT
The LFBOT was not the explosion of a sun-like star.

Quote from: mxplxxx on 15/11/2023 22:37:52
So a sun becomes a super nova
The sun will not become a supernova.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #815 on: 16/11/2023 13:26:27 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/11/2023 11:14:18
Quote from: mxplxxx on 15/11/2023 22:37:52
. In a solar system, the central system is a sun. The central system is what is being observed exploding as a LFBOT
The LFBOT was not the explosion of a sun-like star.

Quote from: mxplxxx on 15/11/2023 22:37:52
So a sun becomes a super nova
The sun will not become a supernova.
1. Not "The" sun - "A" sun. One that is massive enough.

2. I never said an LFBOT was a type of sun.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #816 on: 16/11/2023 17:14:52 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 16/11/2023 13:26:27
I never said an LFBOT was a type of sun.
Who wrote this
Quote from: mxplxxx on 15/11/2023 22:37:52
. In a solar system, the central system is a sun. The central system is what is being observed exploding as a LFBOT.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #817 on: 16/11/2023 23:28:27 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/11/2023 17:14:52
Quote from: mxplxxx on 16/11/2023 13:26:27
I never said an LFBOT was a type of sun.
Who wrote this
Quote from: mxplxxx on 15/11/2023 22:37:52
. In a solar system, the central system is a sun. The central system is what is being observed exploding as a LFBOT.

You need a course in logic.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #818 on: 16/11/2023 23:41:47 »
Quote from: mxplxxx on 16/11/2023 23:28:27
You need a course in logic.
OK, You specified two things that can be central systems.
A black hole or a sun.

And you said that the central system explodes as a LFBOT.

Black holes don't explode; nor does the sun.


At best all you have done is say "someting went bang" which is true, but uninformative.
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Re: How do we measure the energy of a photon?
« Reply #819 on: 01/12/2023 12:20:01 »
4dAbstractions works on Abstraction Hierarchies.e.g.in 4dRacing, a betting Pool is an abstraction hierarchy of Meetings, Races and Runners.

The New function in Visual Basic will create an abstraction hierarchy.

e.g. New (Meetings as list(of Meeting.System), Races as list(of Race.System), Runners as list (of Runner.System))

It takes relatively primitive lists and converts them into the relatively complex and much more useful Pool.System abstraction hierarchy.

This parallels the process in Reality that converts primitive DNA strands into complex Proteins via a Ribosome.

Is a Protein an abstraction hierarchy? Don't know, but suspect this is highly likely.
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