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Is a Black hole a giant boiling object in space from which no light escapes?
« on: 27/01/2019 03:58:33 »
Black hole is just a giant boiling object in space on which light escapes!!

Black hole is one of the  greatest hunt  of all astronomical  societies of the world for nearly 100 years this modern  21th century!! The must intensified hunt is happening  now 2017-19. What is black hole? As conceived, a structure in outer space with strong gravitational force that even light cannot escape, thus, it is invisible.  But does black hole exists? Here are four  indisputable evidences that  prove no black hole exist in the universe:
 
(1)Quasars are super- giant galaxies, reputed to be the farthest, the largest, and brightest objects of the universe. Many quasars release light that travels some 10 to 12 billion light years (10-12 billion years) to reach and to contact astronomical telescopes on earth. That supra-bright light of quasars is never the making of  billions of satellite stars surrounding the quasars, these satellite objects are weakened the farther the travel and can never reach earth. But that light from quasar that reach earth is tremendously so concentrated and powerful, otherwise it cannot travel that far, billion of light years away, to reach earth. The only source of such super-powerful light is  the core of quasars implicating indisputably that light escapes from the supposed black hole . That light that escape  is NORMAL OCCURRENCE of such object in space.
 
(2)There is that massive dust and gas completely  enveloping  all-over supposed black hole, thus no black hole is seen directly, only dust and gas. Where do these dust and gas come from? A conglomerate of astronomers in 2017throughout the world  combined their astronomical telescopes, called EHT (Event Horizon Telescope), and simultaneously  pointed at Saguitarius “A”  of Milky Way  where the supposed black hole is hiding. The global EHT found  no black hole directly but super-dense dust and gas envelopes completely  the center of Milky Way. Another group of respected astrophysicists (UCLA) University of California, LA) ,which has been observing stars  rotating closest to center of Milky Way for more than 15 years, commented : these dust and gas were observed being blown outward from center of Milky Way where the supposed black hole resides, and then to return back to the center, and even further to comment/observe  dust and gas was materials blown out straight outward!!! Here is the clue why gas and dust were blown outward . Have you observed boiling water. It boils and  blows out evaporated H2O to atmosphere. In like manner, the supposed  black holes is super-heated object in space, has surface which  is boiling that it blows out   gas and dust outward that totally envelops and cover up supposed black hole thus  is invisible! But all the electromagnetic spectrum, X_ray, ultra-violet ray, radio ray, etc. can penetrate the center of galaxy except visible light!!!. As further commented by unnamed  physicist of UCLA,  something like this  “ there is detected massive  body in the core of milky way but it is not the traditional black hole wherein light cannot escape but rather any materials that fall into it will never  leave”.
 
(3)For the first time,  detected light and gravity travel, hand in hand, in  jets ejected by colliding galaxies at speed of light in the skein of space (call it spacetime.),
Concept of black hole which light cannot escape is against the law of physics: where there is fire, there is light. Light cannot be separated from fire nor fire separated from light.  Both goes hand in hand inseparably and proportionately, not against one another.. The bigger the fire, proportionately, the bigger the light it produces and releases outward at the same impulse  speed  of 186,000  miles/sec  The speed of gravity and light hand in hand finally confirmed this 2017 .  In  outer space, the greater the gravitational force of large stars, galaxies, quasars,, proportionately, hand in hand,  the greater the light it produces and  releases to outer space,  not suck light unto itself.
 
(4)Is supposed black hole hot or cold? The ejected jet of super massive galaxies is super hot by billions of  centigrade, implicating the interior of galaxies is super-hot,  not cold. That the ejected jet from  both sides of the super galaxy proves it has both positive and negative.. Another evidence that the supposed black hole is no singularity.
 
.It is worth mentioning, Dr. Albert Einstein who postulated “ A certain region in space with powerful gravitational force that even light cannot space”, later named as black hole,  rejected black hole until his death in 1955. Dr. Stephen Hawking, the No. One proponent of black hole in modern time, later changed mind and recanted “event horizon”. Event horizon means the delineating line of black hole on which light cannot escape .
 
Jose S. Aldea
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January 22,  2019.
 
 
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Re: Is a Black hole a giant boiling object in space from which no light escapes?
« Reply #1 on: 27/01/2019 17:56:17 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 27/01/2019 03:58:33
The only source of such super-powerful light is  the core of quasars implicating indisputably that light escapes from the supposed black hole .

Light doesn't have to escape the black hole itself in order for us to see quasars. The disk of gas that orbits the black hole is immensely hot and is able to emit plenty of light and radiation before it even crosses the event horizon.

Quote from: jsaldea12 on 27/01/2019 03:58:33
The global EHT found  no black hole directly but super-dense dust and gas envelopes completely  the center of Milky Way.

I don't think any images from the Event Horizon Telescope have been released yet.

Quote from: jsaldea12 on 27/01/2019 03:58:33
Concept of black hole which light cannot escape is against the law of physics: where there is fire, there is light. Light cannot be separated from fire nor fire separated from light.  Both goes hand in hand inseparably and proportionately, not against one another..

So you've never heard of glow sticks or fireflies? Or gravitational redshifting?

Quote from: jsaldea12 on 27/01/2019 03:58:33
The ejected jet of super massive galaxies is super hot by billions of  centigrade, implicating the interior of galaxies is super-hot,  not cold.

The temperature of the jet is a separate quantity from the temperature of the black hole.

Quote from: jsaldea12 on 27/01/2019 03:58:33
Dr. Stephen Hawking, the No. One proponent of black hole in modern time, later changed mind and recanted “event horizon”.

Please post a link to a reputable source that supports the assertion that Stephen Hawking denied the existence of event horizons.
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Re: Is a Black hole a giant boiling object in space from which no light escapes?
« Reply #2 on: 04/02/2019 09:04:10 »
Please permit me to submit the corrected consolidation before i answer objections:

Black hole is just a super giant boiling object in outer space, not invisible, light escapes!!
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Black hole is just a super giant boiling object in outer space: not invisible, light escapes!!  (see Naked Scientists: New Theories forum)

Black hole is one of the  greatest hunt  of all astronomical  societies of the world for nearly 100 years this modern  21th century!! The must intensified hunt is happening  now 2017-19. What is black hole? As conceived, a structure in outer space with strong gravitational force that even light cannot escape, thus, it is invisible.  But does black hole exists? Here are four  indisputable evidences that  prove no black hole exist in the universe:

(1)Quasars are super- giant galaxies, reputed to be the farthest, the largest, and brightest objects of the visible  universe. Many distant  quasars release light that travels some 10 to 13 billion light years (10-13 billion years) to reach and  contact  astronomical telescopes on earth. That supra-bright light of quasars is never the making of  billions of satellite stars surrounding the quasars, these satellite objects are weakened the farther the travel and can never reach earth. Nor is it the light of dust and gas completely surrounding quasars, for that light from quasar that reach earth is tremendously  concentrated and powerful, otherwise it cannot travel that far, billion of light years away, to reach earth. The only source of such super-powerful light is  the core of quasars implicating indisputably that light escapes from the core,  supposed black hole . The light that escapes  is NORMAL MAKING of such object in space.

(2)The massing dust and gas that  completely  envelop  supposed black hole, thus no black hole is  visible directly , only dust and gas. Where do these dust and gas come from? A  respected conglomerate of astronomers in 2017throughout the world  combined their astronomical telescopes, called EHT (Event Horizon Telescope), and simultaneously  pointed at Saguitarius “A”  of Milky Way  where the supposed black hole is hiding. The global EHT found  no black hole directly but super-dense dust and gas envelopes completely  the center of Milky Way. Another group of respected astrophysicists (UCLA) University of California, LA) ,who has been observing stars  rotating closest to center of Milky Way for more than 15 years, commented : these dust and gas were observed being blown outward from center of Milky Way where the supposed black hole resides, and then to fall back to the center, and even goes further  commented  the  dust and gas were blown out straight outward!!! Here is the clue why gas and dust were blown outward . Have you observed boiling water?. It boils and  blows UP evaporated H2O to atmosphere.  In like manner, the supposed  black holes is super-heated object in space (even up to trillion Celsius), has surface which  is super boiling that it blows out   gas and dust outward that totally envelops and cover up supposed black hole thus  is invisible! But all the electromagnetic spectrum, X_ray, ultra-violet ray, radio ray, etc. can penetrate the center of galaxy except visible light!!! and reflect back the image/information of that core to  astronomical telescope, a proof that electro-magnetic=spectrum, of which includes light, escapes!. As further commented by unnamed  physicist of UCLA,  something like this  “ there is detected massive  body in the core of Milky  Way but it is not the traditional black hole wherein light cannot escape but rather any materials that fall into it will never  leave”. He is not far from the truth.

(3)For the first time,  detected light and gravity travel, hand in hand, in  super-boiling gas and hydrogen jets ejected by colliding galaxies at speed of light in the fabric  of space (call it spacetime.), Concept of black hole which light cannot escape is against the law of physics: where there is fire, there is light. Light cannot be separated from fire nor fire separated from light.  Both goes hand in hand inseparably and proportionately, not against one another.. The bigger the fire, proportionately, the bigger the light it produces and releases outward at the same impulse  speed  of 186,000  miles/sec  The speed of gravity and light hand in hand finally confirmed this 2017 .  In  outer space, the greater the gravitational force of large stars, galaxies, quasars,, proportionately, hand in hand,  the greater the light it produces and  releases to outer space,  not suck back light unto itself.

(4)Is supposed black hole hot or cold? The ejected jet of gas and hydrogen, of  a single  super massive galaxy is super hot, even by trillion celsius  (the boiling gaseous sun has surface temperature of 6,000 celsius) implicating the interior of galaxies is super-hot,  not cold. That the ejected jets from  both sides of a super galaxy proves the core, supposed black hole,  has inherent  positive and negative, another evidence that the supposed black hole is no singularity, the signature of black hole?.  There is no singularity in matter, not even neutron stars..

.It is worth mentioning, Dr. Albert Einstein who postulated “ A certain region in space with powerful gravitational force that even light cannot space”, later re-monickered as black hole,  rejected black hole until his death in 1955. Dr. Stephen Hawking, the No. One proponent of black hole in modern time, later changed mind and recanted “event horizon” in 2004. Event horizon means the delineating line of black hole on which light cannot escape .

.In a capsule, there is no black hole, only super-giant boiling object in outer space,(  like the boiling  sun), and that the spewing gas and dust that completely  envelop the supposed black hole is SOLVED.(artists’perception/simulation showing a big central black are merely illustration, not the actual)

.jose s. aldea
Physicist
Roxas City, Philippines
Revised Copyright/published 2018-19 (consolidation)
With copyrights/or published 2016-18

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Re: Is a Black hole a giant boiling object in space from which no light escapes?
« Reply #3 on: 04/02/2019 09:38:22 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 27/01/2019 03:58:33
The only source of such super-powerful light is  the core of quasars which brighten the gas and dust, implicating indisputably that light escapes from the supposed black hole .

Light doesn't have to escape the black hole itself in order for us to see quasars. The disk of gas that orbits the black hole is immensely hot and is able to emit plenty of light and radiation before it even crosses the event horizon.

Quote from: jsaldea12 on 27/01/2019 03:58:33
The global EHT found  no black hole directly but super-dense dust and gas envelopes completely  the center of Milky Way.

I don't think any images from the Event Horizon Telescope have been released yet.

Quote from: jsaldea12 on 27/01/2019 03:58:33
Concept of black hole which light cannot escape is against the law of physics: where there is fire, there is light. Light cannot be separated from fire nor fire separated from light.  Both goes hand in hand inseparably and proportionately, not against one another..

So you've never heard of glow sticks or fireflies? Or gravitational redshifting?

Quote from: jsaldea12 on 27/01/2019 03:58:33
The ejected jet of super massive galaxies is super hot by billions of  centigrade, implicating the interior of galaxies is super-hot,  not cold.

The temperature of the jet is a separate quantity from the temperature of the black hole.

Quote from: jsaldea12 on 27/01/2019 03:58:33
Dr. Stephen Hawking, the No. One proponent of black hole in modern time, later changed mind and recanted “event horizon”.

Please post a link to a reputable source that supports the assertion that Stephen Hawking denied the existence of event horizons.
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Re: Is a Black hole a giant boiling object in space from which no light escapes?
« Reply #4 on: 04/02/2019 09:43:13 »

Quote:The ejected jet of super massive galaxies is super hot by billions of  centigrade, implicating the interior of galaxies is super-hot,  not cold.The temperature of the jet is a separate quantity from the temperature of the black hole.
jsaldea response: The jet is not a separate entity.
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Re: Is a Black hole a giant boiling object in space from which no light escapes?
« Reply #5 on: 04/02/2019 09:51:16 »
Quote: Light doesn't have to escape the black hole itself in order for us to see quasars. The disk of gas that orbits the black hole is immensely hot and is able to emit plenty of light and radiation before it even crosses the event horizon.
jsaldea response: The light emitted by dust and gas? The light of gas and dust emiited are actually light emitted bby the supposed black hole because light escapes!!!


Quote: I don't think any images from the Event Horizon Telescope have been released yet
jsaldea response: No image can ever be released but DETECTED only by X-ray, radio, etc.
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Re: Is a Black hole a giant boiling object in space from which no light escapes?
« Reply #6 on: 04/02/2019 14:27:27 »
.IMPORTANT EVIDENCE FOR INSERTION TO NO. 2: Where does the burning gas and dust come from?.  Dust and gas  don’t burn by themselve unless behind  there is the source of that burning, the burning core, supposed black hole. Thus the burning gas and dust that stretches  as light far into space ,  as visually  captured by astronomical telescopes is one strong evidence that light escapes black hole!!. It must  be noted.that  all the electromagnetic spectrum, X_ray, ultra-violet ray, radio ray, etc. can penetrate the center of galaxy, except visible light, and reflect back the shape/information of that core to  astronomical telescope, a proof that electro-magneticspectrum, of which includes light, escapes!.
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Re: Is a Black hole a giant boiling object in space from which no light escapes?
« Reply #7 on: 05/02/2019 11:23:17 »
First of all. Can you give us a source for your credentials? You say you are a physicist? You really need to link that statement.
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