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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #20 on: 17/03/2019 07:23:06 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 17/03/2019 00:21:31
jsa Please disclose my last posting 3.16.19

Are you claiming that someone hid your last post? If you made a post and it has disappeared, you should report it to the moderators or administrator as a bug.
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #21 on: 17/03/2019 09:22:11 »
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jsa Please disclose my last posting 3.16.19
We can't disclose it because it isn't hidden.
It's here
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #22 on: 17/03/2019 09:22:41 »
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Who or what is "NS"?
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #23 on: 17/03/2019 10:13:03 »
:jsa Dr. Einstein denied vehemently against black hole whose ultimate end is singularity. Funny, his General Relativity is being used as reference to justify black hole.. Now, does not that super-jets ejected from BOTH OPPOSITE SIDEs OF SUPER-GALAXIES ACTUALLY ESCAPE FROM BLACK HOLE. That super jets have temperature of several trillion C and travelling at almost the speed of light and stretching, like fireman hose, several thousand light years. These jets reveal the content of the deep interior of the super-super gravitational pressurized core of super-galaxies, see? And here is most of all, that super-jets from opposite sides of super-galaxies prove there is north pole and south pole, like earth, sun, again, for all matters, makes no difference whether it is galaxies, stars, planets, etc. have both indisputable, indestructible positive and negative property in one. Now, show me a super galaxies with only one jet, no other jet at opposite side. The inherent law of the universe is operating: it is always the two together. March 16, 2019

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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #24 on: 17/03/2019 10:21:48 »
jsa: Please show me  super-jets of super galaxy with only one jet, not two jets on opposite sides. This is the strongest evidence that the core, supposed black hole, is simply super giant object with positive and negative, because matter once materialized, always in pair, positive and negative, the inherent law of the universe. REITERATING,  SHOW ME A PHOTO OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET, NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES, -RE- NORTH  POLE AND SOUTH POLE. 3.17.19
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #25 on: 17/03/2019 10:28:48 »
Why don't you answer this?

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Who or what is "NS"?

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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #26 on: 17/03/2019 10:29:10 »
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #27 on: 17/03/2019 12:41:11 »
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 18:40:52 »
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Jsa: Now, does not that super-jets ejected from BOTH OPPOSITE SIDEs OF SUPER-GALAXIES ACTUALLY ESCAPE FROM BLACK HOLE.

NS scientist: They (super jets) are travelling away from the black hole, yes. You have yet to show that they actually came from inside of the black hole. Just because a rocket ship travels away from the Earth doesn't mean that it came from inside of the Earth, now does it?
 
JSA: Wrong. Rocket ship, with escape gravity of earth of 11 kilometers, is much much slower. These jets are ejected at closest speed of light. These jets are trillion times C, almost closing to 100 trillion C, the ultimate temperature C. The temperature of EH is  lower, is no match!!!. The jets ejected at closest of speed of light, only super-gravitational compression originating at the deep interior of core, not black hole, can do that. And most of all, the dual jets , at opposite sides of super-galaxy,   are strongest evidence of north pole and south pole, the indestructible signature of matter upon materialization,  the making of the inherent  law of the universe, proving there is no singularity- making  black hole. 3.17.19
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #28 on: 17/03/2019 13:13:42 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 17/03/2019 12:41:11
NS scientist
Who is NS?
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #29 on: 17/03/2019 13:54:13 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 17/03/2019 12:41:11
The jets ejected at closest of speed of light, only super-gravitational compression originating at the deep interior of core, not black hole, can do that.

Do you have some calculations to back up that claim?

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And most of all, the dual jets , at opposite sides of super-galaxy,   are strongest evidence of north pole and south pole, the indestructible signature of matter upon materialization,  the making of the inherent  law of the universe, proving there is no singularity- making  black hole.

You really need to learn what a non-sequitur is.
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #30 on: 17/03/2019 14:00:29 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 17/03/2019 10:13:03
:jsa Dr. Einstein denied vehemently against black hole whose ultimate end is singularity. Funny, his General Relativity is being used as reference to justify black hole.. Now, does not that super-jets ejected from BOTH OPPOSITE SIDEs OF SUPER-GALAXIES ACTUALLY ESCAPE FROM BLACK HOLE. That super jets have temperature of several trillion C and travelling at almost the speed of light and stretching, like fireman hose, several thousand light years. These jets reveal the content of the deep interior of the super-super gravitational pressurized core of super-galaxies, see? And here is most of all, that super-jets from opposite sides of super-galaxies prove there is north pole and south pole, like earth, sun, again, for all matters, makes no difference whether it is galaxies, stars, planets, etc. have both indisputable, indestructible positive and negative property in one. Now, show me a super galaxies with only one jet, no other jet at opposite side. The inherent law of the universe is operating: it is always the two together. March 16, 2019

You already made this exact same post.

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jsa: Please show me  super-jets of super galaxy with only one jet, not two jets on opposite sides. This is the strongest evidence that the core, supposed black hole, is simply super giant object with positive and negative, because matter once materialized, always in pair, positive and negative, the inherent law of the universe. REITERATING,  SHOW ME A PHOTO OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET, NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES, -RE- NORTH  POLE AND SOUTH POLE. 3.17.19

Why would we need to? Nobody claimed that galaxies don't have poles.
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #31 on: 18/03/2019 06:32:12 »
jsa: Please show me  super-jets of super galaxy with only one jet, not two jets on opposite sides. This is the strongest evidence that the core, supposed black hole, is simply super giant object with positive and negative, because matter once materialized, always in pair, positive and negative, the inherent law of the universe. REITERATING,  SHOW ME A PHOTO OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET, NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES, -RE- NORTH  POLE AND SOUTH POLE. 3.17.19

NSscientist:Why would we need to? Nobody claimed that galaxies don't have poles.

jsa You have Not answered my question: SHOW ME AN ASTRONOMICAL PHOTO OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET, NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES. 3.17.19
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #32 on: 18/03/2019 06:52:45 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/03/2019 10:28:48
Why don't you answer this?

Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/03/2019 09:22:41
Quote from: Bored chemist on 15/03/2019 18:47:41
Who or what is "NS"?


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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #33 on: 18/03/2019 06:53:46 »
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You have Not answered my question
Yes they did.
They said
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Why would we need to? Nobody claimed that galaxies don't have poles.
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #34 on: 18/03/2019 09:49:41 »
jsa You have Not answered my question: SHOW ME AN ASTRONOMICAL PHOTO OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET, NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES. 3.17.19

NS scientist: No answer??.
Jsa: It cannot be answered because, reiterating for the _th time, all matters in the universe have positive and negative into one but separating, once matter materialize,  it indisputably, inseparably has two sides.  In short, monopole is impossible once materialize.. thus, when a the super-galaxy jettisons jets on opposite sides  that object display its positive and negative divided in one like earth, sun. It means, there is no singularity in black hole, singularity the signature of black hole. No wonder, jets jettison at speed of light breaks through the barrier event horizon (EH) because there is no black hole on which cannot escape,, and no wonder, the jets are trillion timesx C, hotter than EH.
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #35 on: 18/03/2019 19:29:51 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 18/03/2019 09:49:41
jsa You have Not answered my question: SHOW ME AN ASTRONOMICAL PHOTO OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET, NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES. 3.17.19

NS scientist: No answer??.
Jsa: It cannot be answered because, reiterating for the _th time, all matters in the universe have positive and negative into one but separating, once matter materialize,  it indisputably, inseparably has two sides.  In short, monopole is impossible once materialize.. thus, when a the super-galaxy jettisons jets on opposite sides  that object display its positive and negative divided in one like earth, sun. It means, there is no singularity in black hole, singularity the signature of black hole. No wonder, jets jettison at speed of light breaks through the barrier event horizon (EH) because there is no black hole on which cannot escape,, and no wonder, the jets are trillion timesx C, hotter than EH.

No.
Thi is silly.
It's like saying "Chocolate is brown- so black holes don't exist!"

Nobody is arguing about the colour of chocolate.
But we keep pointing out that it has nothing to do with black holes.


Speaking of not answering questions, why can't you answer mine?
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Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/03/2019 10:28:48
Why don't you answer this?

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Who or what is "NS"?



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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #36 on: 18/03/2019 19:33:49 »
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Jsa: It cannot be answered because, reiterating for the _th time, all matters in the universe have positive and negative into one but separating, once matter materialize,  it indisputably, inseparably has two sides.  In short, monopole is impossible once materialize.. thus, when a the super-galaxy jettisons jets on opposite sides  that object display its positive and negative divided in one like earth, sun. It means, there is no singularity in black hole, singularity the signature of black hole. No wonder, jets jettison at speed of light breaks through the barrier event horizon (EH) because there is no black hole on which cannot escape,, and no wonder, the jets are trillion timesx C, hotter than EH.

This paragraph is a ridiculous mess. Nobody here ever said that galaxies don't have two jets. Yet you somehow come to the conclusion that such a thing means that you can't have monopoles of any kind (which is a non-sequitur). Individual electrons are electric monopoles, so you're obviously wrong. You also still have yet to demonstrate that those jets came from inside of the black hole. Are you ever going to actually do that?

I'm also waiting for you to point out the mathematical flaw in the derivation of the Hawking radiation equation.
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #37 on: 18/03/2019 22:20:16 »
jsa You have Not answered my question: SHOW ME AN ASTRONOMICAL PHOTO OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET, NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES. 3.17.19

NS scientist: No answer??.
Jsa: It cannot be answered BECAUSE THERE IS NONE.
NS Scientist:This paragraph is a ridiculous mess. Nobody here ever said that galaxies don't have two jets.
Jsa: WRONG. DO NOT DEVIATE FROM MY QUESTION.THAT QUESTION IS EXTREMELY DECISIVE. AGAIN, I ASK YOU TO ANSWER: SHOW ME AN ASTRONOMICAL PHOTO OF CENTER OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET , NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES. 3.18, 2019

JSA: About that ridiculous computation of yours by trillion times colder!!! Something is wrong. Show me what derivative with  figures. 3.18, 2019.
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #38 on: 19/03/2019 13:18:20 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 18/03/2019 22:20:16
jsa You have Not answered my question: SHOW ME AN ASTRONOMICAL PHOTO OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET, NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES. 3.17.19

NS scientist: No answer??.
Jsa: It cannot be answered BECAUSE THERE IS NONE.
NS Scientist:This paragraph is a ridiculous mess. Nobody here ever said that galaxies don't have two jets.
Jsa: WRONG. DO NOT DEVIATE FROM MY QUESTION.THAT QUESTION IS EXTREMELY DECISIVE. AGAIN, I ASK YOU TO ANSWER: SHOW ME AN ASTRONOMICAL PHOTO OF CENTER OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET , NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES. 3.18, 2019

JSA: About that ridiculous computation of yours by trillion times colder!!! Something is wrong. Show me what derivative with  figures. 3.18, 2019.

That's not how it works. You claim 'sonething is wrong'. The onus is on you therefore to show how it is wrong' including how you calculated it is wrong'.

Also, why have you posted the same subject twice?
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Re: Appeared flaws in computation of temperature and popping virtual particles in bl
« Reply #39 on: 19/03/2019 13:23:04 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 18/03/2019 22:20:16
jsa You have Not answered my question: SHOW ME AN ASTRONOMICAL PHOTO OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET, NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES. 3.17.19

NS scientist: No answer??.
Jsa: It cannot be answered BECAUSE THERE IS NONE.
NS Scientist:This paragraph is a ridiculous mess. Nobody here ever said that galaxies don't have two jets.
Jsa: WRONG. DO NOT DEVIATE FROM MY QUESTION.THAT QUESTION IS EXTREMELY DECISIVE. AGAIN, I ASK YOU TO ANSWER: SHOW ME AN ASTRONOMICAL PHOTO OF CENTER OF SUPER GALAXY WITH ONLY ONE JET , NOT TWO JETS ON OPPOSITE SIDES. 3.18, 2019

As far as I know, there aren't any. I never argued that there were any galaxies with only one jet. So you and I are in agreement on that one issue. Stop pretending that I'm making an argument that I'm not.

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JSA: About that ridiculous computation of yours by trillion times colder!!! Something is wrong. Show me what derivative with  figures. 3.18, 2019.

I already did in reply #11. I can post the links, but I can't make you read them.
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