[Bored chemist]

we will call this clock (a) and will say it measures 1 light second per tick .

A light second is a measure of distance rather than time.

You really need to learn the basics.

[guest39538]

we will call this clock (a) and will say it measures 1 light second per tick .

A light second is a measure of distance rather than time.

You really need to learn the basics.

Interesting , Einstein uses a light second also in the thought experiment , you really need to learn some physics .  A light second is the distance a photon travels in one second which is 299792458 m /s  , it makes an accurate light clock that is a measure of time .

Want to try again ?

[Bored chemist]

A light second is the distance a photon travels in one second which is 299792458 m /s 

No
That's a  speed, not a distance (you can tell- it's in metres per second).
So once again you are wrong.
A light second is a distance.
It's not a time- so it isn't how fast a clock ticks so this

it measures 1 light second per tick .

is wrong and it's not a speed so this

A light second is the distance a photon travels in one second which is 299792458 m /s  ,

is wrong too.

You really need to learn some physics .
Want to try again ?

[guest39538]

A light second is the distance a photon travels in one second which is 299792458 m /s 

No
That's a  speed, not a distance (you can tell- it's in metres per second).
So once again you are wrong.
A light second is a distance.
It's not a time- so it isn't how fast a clock ticks so this

it measures 1 light second per tick .

is wrong and it's not a speed so this

A light second is the distance a photon travels in one second which is 299792458 m /s  ,

is wrong too.

You really need to learn some physics .
Want to try again ?

Then on what you've just said , you have just shown the light clock thought experiment is invalid to begin with because Einstein also uses a light second in the light clock though experiment . 

I've provided the correct analysis and math showing no time dilation , both Alice and Bill have experienced 1.33333 l.s of time as experienced by the photon .   

Want to try again ?

Want to answer how much time the photon experiences in the stationary clock and the moving clock ?

[Bored chemist]

Then on what you've just said , you have just shown the light clock thought experiment is invalid to begin with because Einstein also uses a light second in the light clock though experiment . 

No.
His thought experiment is valid because he uses it correctly.

You should try it.

[guest39538]

Want to answer how much time the photon experiences in the stationary clock and the moving clock ?

Want to answer how much time the photon experiences in the stationary clock and the moving clock ?

The math shows I am correct !

[Bored chemist]

Want to answer how much time the photon experiences in the stationary clock and the moving clock ?

Photons don't experience anything.
They travel at c and time stops for them.

The math shows I am correct !

You don't seem to have done any maths.
In any event, if you have, you seem to have made an error- because you get the wrong answer.

[guest39538]

Photons don't experience anything.They travel at c and time stops for them.

So you are saying that while photons are traversing , time stops ? 

How preposterous , a photon ages the same as everything else and time does not stop just because a photon travels at c.  If a body travelled at the near speed of c , it is said time would almost stop , but that is also preposterous .

What you are suggesting in defense is the error and thoughts I've shown at error . 

I've provided the vector analysis Mr Chemist , would you like to try and show falsity or error  ?

I'll rephrase the question as you like to make those political type avoidances .

How much time passes while the photon travels 1 and 1/3rd ticks on the stationary clock and how much time passes while the photon travels one tick in the moving clock , relative to the photon ?

I'll give you a hint MR C , 1 and 1/3rd ticks distance  is an equal distance of the 1 tick .

[mad aetherist]

Want to answer how much time the photon experiences in the stationary clock and the moving clock ?

Photons don't experience anything. They travel at c and time stops for them.

Thats an interesting question-topic.
In a sense nothing on its own experiences time or ticking.
Time or ticking is always a relative thing, for everything (ie for photons & for humans). 

Travel at c is a relative thing, speed & velocity are always relative.
For a photon c is of course relative to the (stationary) aether. A photon propagates at c kmps in the aether.
But this c is slowed to c' in the aether due to the presence of mass (Einstein was correct).  Here a photon would somehow feel that its usual happy propagation of c kmps throo the aether was being slowed by feedback from photaenos emanating from the main helical body of the photon, the photaenos themselves being slowed due to interference with other photaenos fighting for the use of the aether. The photon would sense that things werent right, due to the relative speed throo the aether not being right.
 
Time of course cant stop, because there is no such thing as time, unless u count it as being the present instant (of time), which is a universal instant (but still not a real time in the usual sense).

[guest39538]

Time of course cant stop, because there is no such thing as time, unless u count it as being the present instant (of time), which is a universal instant (but still not a real time in the usual sense).

You got that right .

[Bored chemist]

How preposterous , a photon ages the same as everything else and time does not stop just because a photon travels at c.  If a body travelled at the near speed of c , it is said time would almost stop , but that is also preposterous .

Much of modern physics is preposterous, but true.

I've provided the vector analysis Mr Chemist

No
You have provided some squiggles on a screen>

We are still waiting for you to provide any evidence that your squiggles make sense.

[guest39538]

How preposterous , a photon ages the same as everything else and time does not stop just because a photon travels at c.  If a body travelled at the near speed of c , it is said time would almost stop , but that is also preposterous .

Much of modern physics is preposterous, but true.

I've provided the vector analysis Mr Chemist

No
You have provided some squiggles on a screen>

We are still waiting for you to provide any evidence that your squiggles make sense.

Δv = ΔΗ = Δf

 

[seeker3]

Einstein was wrong about time dilation.

Put same atomic clocks in the sun, earth, mars, flying air plan, for 1 day.

Each clock will have a different reading.

Which time is dilated? which clock has correct time?

Time dilation is a misinterpretation of timer's moving rate/reading affected by gravity/acceleration/force upon it.

Time is not a thing, time has no location, cannot be touched, what is dilating what? How?

All things happening is at now, all existence is at now, time is forever ongoing now, all past became now, all future will become now.

[Kryptid]

Which time is dilated?

Depends on your reference frame.

which clock has correct time?

All of the clocks are equally correct.

[guest39538]

Which time is dilated?

Depends on your reference frame.

which clock has correct time?

All of the clocks are equally correct.

All the clocks would be equally incorrect ...

[Bored chemist]

You have provided some squiggles on a screen>

We are still waiting for you to provide any evidence that your squiggles make sense.

[guest39538]

You have provided some squiggles on a screen>

We are still waiting for you to provide any evidence that your squiggles make sense.

I've provided my math analysis of this ;  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafele–Keating_experiment

Where's your time dilation ?

Δf = ΔH = Δv

H=

 

Exothermic 

[Bored chemist]

I've provided my math analysis of this

No.
You have provided squiggles again.

[guest39538]

I've provided my math analysis of this

No.
You have provided squiggles again.

No,, you have an inability to do math . The maths is correct .

[Bored chemist]

You don't seem to have done any maths.
In any event, if you have, you seem to have made an error- because you get the wrong answer.

Reply 31 does not agree with reply 36.
So one of them must be wrong.
It's obvious that you can't do maths.