[seeker3 (OP)]

The truth of the Sun

The Sun is not an ongoing fusion reactor. The Sun does not radiate energy into space. Energy cannot vanish into space. Energy can only co-exist with matter. The Sun's energy is from star formation, the Sun keeps the same amount of energy forever. The Sun only shares radiant/thermal energy with matters around it. All the energy in the universe is shared with all the matter all the time, the more mass carries the more energy. Mass and energy are immortal, indestructible, co-existed. The universe is a perpetual machine. Every atom is a perpetual machine.

All the energy is from atom formation. Positive and negative charged particles attract each other to form atoms, atoms carry kinetic energy of their charged particles.

The more atoms attract each other under gravity, the more mass get together, the higher temperature a star is.

Electrical universe is good idea. In fact, there is only one force ruling the world. Electrostatic force between charged particles. Magnetic force and gravity are came from F=Ke x pq/rr with different configuration, strong and weak force are imaginary.

The Sun only radiate energy to mater. There is no photon particles radiating out from the Sun into space at every direction at light speed. There is no light waves radiating out from the Sun into space at every direction at light speed.

The repulsion force between line of sight electrons on the surface of the sun and the moon F=Ke x e1e2/rr is the conductor of sunlight to the moon. Therefore light speed between the sun and the moon is infinite, instantaneous. Without air resistance on the moon, radio communication is instantaneous not light speed.

Space is just empty space, there is no fabric of space, nothing in space can be curve, distort or expend. Nothing waves in space. Relativity is imaginary.

[Kryptid]

There was no need to make yet another thread about the exact same nonsense.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Before they invented big bang, the universe is stable.

Before they told you you have monkey blood, you thought you were human.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Open your mind to truth, become a better men.

Human is not a race, but a family.

[The Spoon]

The truth of the Sun

The Sun is not an ongoing fusion reactor. The Sun does not radiate energy into space. Energy cannot vanish into space. Energy can only co-exist with matter. The Sun's energy is from star formation, the Sun keeps the same amount of energy forever. The Sun only shares radiant/thermal energy with matters around it. All the energy in the universe is shared with all the matter all the time, the more mass carries the more energy. Mass and energy are immortal, indestructible, co-existed. The universe is a perpetual machine. Every atom is a perpetual machine.

All the energy is from atom formation. Positive and negative charged particles attract each other to form atoms, atoms carry kinetic energy of their charged particles.

The more atoms attract each other under gravity, the more mass get together, the higher temperature a star is.

Electrical universe is good idea. In fact, there is only one force ruling the world. Electrostatic force between charged particles. Magnetic force and gravity are came from F=Ke x pq/rr with different configuration, strong and weak force are imaginary.

The Sun only radiate energy to mater. There is no photon particles radiating out from the Sun into space at every direction at light speed. There is no light waves radiating out from the Sun into space at every direction at light speed.

The repulsion force between line of sight electrons on the surface of the sun and the moon F=Ke x e1e2/rr is the conductor of sunlight to the moon. Therefore light speed between the sun and the moon is infinite, instantaneous. Without air resistance on the moon, radio communication is instantaneous not light speed.

Space is just empty space, there is no fabric of space, nothing in space can be curve, distort or expend. Nothing waves in space. Relativity is imaginary.

Why do you keep posting semi literate nonsense?

[seeker3 (OP)]

New theory forum, opinion various.

You don't have to read if you don't agree.

If you don't understand, don't say it is nonsense.

[The Spoon]

New theory forum, opinion various.

You don't have to read if you don't agree.

If you don't understand, don't say it is nonsense.

If you can't clearly get across your ideas don't post. Also, don't post if you have no evidence and don't expect your ideas to be criticised..

[Kryptid]

Before they told you you have monkey blood, you thought you were human.

Nobody told me I have monkey blood. Can I take it from that statement that you don't understand the theory of evolution either?

Open your mind to truth, become a better men.

I won't be a better man if I accept things that are wrong. You say that the Sun keeps its energy forever, which is nonsense because it sends some of that energy to the Earth and the other planets. The fact that solar power works proves that the Sun must be losing at least some of its energy to us.

[Bored chemist]

The Sun does not radiate energy into space.

You seem to have been kept in the dark about reality.

All the energy is from atom formation.

At the temperatures observed in the Sun, atoms actually break down.

. Mass and energy are immortal, indestructible, co-existed.

Demonstrably false.

The more atoms attract each other under gravity, the more mass get together, the higher temperature a star is.

Why?

You can calculate the speed at which a rock dropped from a long distance would hit the Sun.
it's referred to as the escape velocity.
It's about 600 km/s
And you can convert that into an effective temperature
Each Kg of matter at that speed carries  0.5 * 600,000^2 Joules of energy.
About 180 GJ/Kg

Once a tiny part of the energy is converted to heat by the impact the rock will be heated up so hot it boils.
After that you are heating a gas.
That makes it easier because the heat capacity of gases are easy to calculate.
Let's assume the rock is mainly hydrogen.
That has a molar mass of about 1g
So the 1Kg rock is about  about 1000 moles

At these temperatures, the hydrogen will dissociate so it will form a total of about 2000 moles of H  atoms.

And the heat capacity of a monatomic gas is about 20 J/k/mole
And we have 2000 moles so the heat capacity of a kg of vaporized rock is near 20,000 J/K

So that gives a temperature of about 180 GK/ 20,000 J/K

That's about 9 million degrees.
But we know the Sun is roughly 10 times hotter than that.
So we know (as usual) that you are wrong.

And, if you learned some basic physics, you would see that too.

[Kryptid]

The more atoms attract each other under gravity, the more mass get together, the higher temperature a star is.

This is wrong. Procyon B is a white dwarf star with only 60% the mass of the Sun, but it is hotter than the Sun is (7,740 kelvins vs. 5,772 kelvins). Antares is a red giant star with about 12 times the mass of the Sun, but is cooler than the Sun is (only 3,570 kelvins). So there is observational evidence that falsifies your proposal.

The repulsion force between line of sight electrons on the surface of the sun and the moon F=Ke x e1e2/rr is the conductor of sunlight to the moon. Therefore light speed between the sun and the moon is infinite, instantaneous.

Repulsion does not travel infinitely fast. If it did, then the speed of sound and vibration through solid materials would be infinite too. Atoms in a crystal (whether it is quartz or iron) are touching each other, so repulsion from one electron would travel instantly to the next electron and then instantly to the next electron and so on all the way through the material. That results in an infinite speed of sound. Yet we know for a fact that vibrations travel at limited speed through solid matter. Seismographs can pinpoint the epicenter of an earthquake by timing how long it takes for the seismic waves to travel from one seismograph to the other. If the speed of those vibrations was infinite, then there would be no measured difference in travel times.

So there's another piece of scientific evidence that falsifies your assertion.

[evan_au]

When you look into the night sky, you can see the light of thousands of stars (other Suns). An astronomer can see billions of stars with a telescope, including those in other galaxies.

Around most of these stars will be planets, and if they looked into their night sky, they would see our Sun.

So our Sun is losing energy to billions of planets - and this light is traveling through space a considerable distance (including to other galaxies).

[seeker3 (OP)]

When you look into the night sky, you can see the light of thousands of stars (other Suns). An astronomer can see billions of stars with a telescope, including those in other galaxies.

Around most of these stars will be planets, and if they looked into their night sky, they would see our Sun.

So our Sun is losing energy to billions of planets - and this light is traveling through space a considerable distance (including to other galaxies).

All energy is shared by all matters according to their mass and distance.

Water leveled by gravity, energy leveled by gravity also.

The energy radiate in and out any matter is equaled.

For any action there is an opposite reaction, same attitude, opposite direction.

The Sun radiate to earth and the earth radiate to the Sun same amount of energy all the times.

Sun's radiant energy circling around earth, always same amount, there is no energy radiate into space from any matters.

[Kryptid]

The energy radiate in and out any matter is equaled.

If that was true, it would be impossible for anything to heat up or cool down. Why don't you test this by putting your finger in a candle flame? If you're right, you won't be burned.

[seeker3 (OP)]

The energy radiate in and out any matter is equaled.

If that was true, it would be impossible for anything to heat up or cool down. Why don't you test this by putting your finger in a candle flame? If you're right, you won't be burned.

Radiation is the mechanism of matters share their thermal energy at a distance.

Energy is not quanta or energy blob as Einstein and Feynman said. They don't know for sure what is energy.

I made it clear and simple, energy is electromotive force carried by moving matter or vibrating matter.

Newton discovered gravity, I proved the existence of levity, give mechanism of gravity and magnetic force.

Those info are hard to find, you should enjoy and study.

[Kryptid]

Radiation is the mechanism of matters share their thermal energy at a distance.

That does nothing to change what I said. If all matter is receiving as much energy as it is emitting at all times, then its temperature cannot change.

Energy is not quanta or energy blob as Einstein and Feynman said.

Neither Einstein nor Feynman said that quanta do not exist. You are misquoting them.

I made it clear and simple, energy is electromotive force carried by moving matter or vibrating matter.

Except in cases where that energy is carried by other things, like gravitational waves.

I proved the existence of levity

We already knew that electrons repel each other.

give mechanism of gravity and magnetic force.

Your mechanisms are wrong.

[seeker3 (OP)]

It is important to realize that in physics today, we have no knowledge of what energy is. We do not have a picture that energy comes in little blobs of a definite amount. It is not that way. -Feynman

All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?' Nowadays every Tom, D i c k and Harry thinks he knows it, but he is mistaken. - Einstein

[Kryptid]

It is important to realize that in physics today, we have no knowledge of what energy is. We do not have a picture that energy comes in little blobs of a definite amount. It is not that way. -Feynman

All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?' Nowadays every Tom, D i c k and Harry thinks he knows it, but he is mistaken. - Einstein

Neither of these quotes say that quantum particles like photons do not exist.

[Yahya A.Sharif]

The truth of the Sun
 The universe is a perpetual machine. .

The universe can't be a perpetual machine every part of the universe like the sun or the atom is unique system that works independently you claim that the energy going out from  the sun and will come back again and the energy going out of an atom comes back again:
where this energy entering the sun comes from?
How it enters the sun?
What are the observations for that energy?
And finally evidence shows that sun mass of sun decrease and your perpetual motion machine , the sun will vanish one day.

[Bored chemist]

I made it clear and simple, energy is electromotive force carried by moving matter or vibrating matter.

Clear, simple, and wrong.

[seeker3 (OP)]

It is important to realize that in physics today, we have no knowledge of what energy is. We do not have a picture that energy comes in little blobs of a definite amount. It is not that way. -Feynman

All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?' Nowadays every Tom, D i c k and Harry thinks he knows it, but he is mistaken. - Einstein

Neither of these quotes say that quantum particles like photons do not exist.

What is photon in their words?