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Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black hole (with new evidences)
« on: 30/03/2019 02:40:11 »

 Consolidated Empirical evidences  disprove black holes
(Open letter to NASA, and other respected astronomical societies, especially, EHT)

There are super-galaxies that expel  pair  super-jets on both opposite sides of the super-galaxies..Why in pair? because, these  jets  are inseparable positive and negative, or north pole and south pole , like earth, sun, in keeping with  the inherent universal  law of the universe ,re- all matters, upon materialization, re- galaxies, stars, planets, etc. have indivisible positive and negative. In short, the jets are testimony that the core is not black hole, is just a large dense object, with  inseparable one side positive and the opposite side negative, like earth, like sun, like neutron star  with inherent self-dividing positive and negative property of the law of the universe **.. Further, the dense object, supposed black hole has no singularity  where positive and negative are merged completely into one. (The calculation that if mass of earth is converted to black hole, the black hole would shrink the size of pingpong???ridiculous). The dead middle of positive and negative of bar magnet has gravitational attraction  neutralized, thus, without gravitational attraction, where does the supposed black hole gets its supra-gravitational attraction/force to lock billions and probably trillion of stars.. Also,  the ejected pair of super- jets  have supra- temperature,  reaching,  30 trillion Celsius, is hotter than the surface of the supposed black hole and EH, disproving  the contention that the source of jets come from the surface, Further,  these  super-jets are propelled into space  at the speed of light, means there is supra-gravitational compression from the interior of the core to eject super- jets to stretch  several hundred thousand light years in space, this is also one evidence  that the jets of dust and gas  escapes supposed black hole.

The dust and gas that completely envelop supposed black hole comes from the deep interior of core of galaxies,, like earth, the sun. The  core of super-galaxies is liken to  boiling water that evaporates, in like manner, the super-heat deep interior of core extend to the surface,  boiling  up to the surface,  that  evaporates dust and gas outward. This gas and dust that covers entirely the core. Accretion of dust and gas  from outside space contributes but  that  gas and dust  cover up entirely the core means  its large source is the core, itself..  As observed: “,A combination of gravitational and electromagnetic forces sprays hot gas away from the giant black hole.This system has similarities to how a water fountain powered by gravity works.The new result is based on combined data from Chandra, ALMA, and the Very Large Telescope”.

The light of quasars that travel 13 billion light years to reach earth is indisputable evidence that its source is super-powerful, only the core is capable of producing, and only secondly, it carries the image of the lighted  dust and gas to earth.. Dust and gas, by themselves, do not create light, has weakened strength and cannot  reach earth.

The core is invisible because light, by inherent nature, can only contact the surface, the surface of covering gas and dust, cannot penetrate inside, that is why the core is invisible, black hole? but all other elecro-magnetic spectrum, X-ray, radio waves, ultra-violet ray, etc. can penetrate the gas and dust. What did that unnamed astrophysicist of UCLA observed, something like this:, “detected is the object inside but it is not the traditional black hole that light cannot escapes but whatever matter  from outside comes close to the core will be sucked, never to come out.

 What is a generator? It is an  electro-magnetic machine that uses magnetism to produce electricity. In other words, gravity/gravitational attraction and light are inseparable one, like coin with two sides. Both gravity and light are waves or ripples  of space time. Both have electro-magnetic property. Both travel at speed of light . Thus, the stronger the gravitational force, the greater the light it produces: It is not written of the Law that the light produced by the gravitational attraction, it will suck such light back unto itself.

The presented complex computation of temperature of black hole is unconceivable. For instance,  Sagittarius A (core) is 4,000,000 solar mass, the astronomical computed  temperature is 30 TRILLION colder than outer space??.  There are  black holes with mass of over 1 billion solar mass. .  Such computation  tests common sense  because all computations is pegged at absolute zero temperature. of -273 C.  More significant, that the   computation of collapsed black hole is based on escape velocity of earth, Gravity Constant, mass, speed of light, ,CMBR...  It is brilliant  but the basis of computation is anchored on  escape velocity of matter (spaceship) on earth.  But light and gravity are massless, not matter!. Both are waves of spacetime, Thus wherever there is gravity, there is built-in light..
 
The  Hawking Radiation is based on  pair of popping virtual particle  due to vacuum fluctuation of fabric of spacetime of which half pair, re-positive, goes inside the EH and the other half pair, re-negative,  is ejected  outside the EH, to outer space, is wrong. Virtual particle is real particle with inseparable positive and  negative, in keeping with the Law of the universe. Thus, either the whole particle goes to black hole or expelled out. ..

In   conclusion, there is no black hole ,,just a super dense giant object in outer space..
 
jose s. aldea
Physicist

Philippine Copyright 2019

By jose S. aldea

** Cut and cut a bar magnet into smaller cuts, and see each cut bar self-divides into positive and negative
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Re: Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black hole (with new evidences)
« Reply #1 on: 30/03/2019 04:14:50 »
NASA isn't going to be any more interested in this than any of you previous posts. It's the same kind of anti-science thinking as usual.
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Re: Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black hole (with new evidences)
« Reply #2 on: 30/03/2019 09:47:17 »
Please do let delete my post, re-Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black h"ole. Are we not after the truth? Then let me continue. It took some century to know whether there is black hole or not. Dr. Einstein is right. He was referring to REGION IN SPACE where gravitational force is strong.   It is not black hole.  Please le me continue and let us know the truth.  jsa 3.30.19
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Re: Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black hole (with new evidences)
« Reply #3 on: 30/03/2019 09:48:25 »
Re jose s. aldea Physicist
Tempted to ask "is this cosmobabble"?
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Re: Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black hole (with new evidences)
« Reply #4 on: 30/03/2019 10:43:05 »
Like many other uninformed laymen you are confusing electromagnetism and gravitation. Until you can understand the distinction in a meaningful way you are going to impress no one. Especially not NASA. Writing a critique of your idea is pointless since you are likely too stubborn to perceive your errors. This thread may well be headed to new theories if it becomes too unhinged.
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Re: Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black hole (with new evidences)
« Reply #5 on: 30/03/2019 14:44:57 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 30/03/2019 02:40:11
Why in pair?
Conservation of momentum and of angular momentum.
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 30/03/2019 02:40:11
because, these  jets  are inseparable positive and negative, or north pole and south pole , like earth, sun, in keeping with  the inherent universal  law of the universe ,re- all matters, upon materialization, re- galaxies, stars, planets, etc. have indivisible positive and negative. In short, the jets are testimony that the core is not black hole, is just a large dense object, with  inseparable one side positive and the opposite side negative, like earth, like sun, like neutron star  with inherent self-dividing positive and negative property of the law of the universe
No, none of that.
It's just the conservation laws.


Quote from: jsaldea12 on 30/03/2019 02:40:11
. (The calculation that if mass of earth is converted to black hole, the black hole would shrink the size of pingpong???ridiculous).
Ridiculous things happen quite a lot in physics.
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 30/03/2019 02:40:11
The presented complex computation of temperature of black hole is unconceivable. For instance,  Sagittarius A (core) is 4,000,000 solar mass, the astronomical computed  temperature is 30 TRILLION colder than outer space??. 

No, you missed out an important word there.
it's 30 trillion TIMES colder,

Quote from: jsaldea12 on 30/03/2019 02:40:11
Such computation  tests common sense  because all computations is pegged at absolute zero temperature. of -273 C
So the CMBR is about 3 kelvin and this is about a tenth of a trillionth of a kelvin.
That's cold, but not a problem mathematically.
You seem to think we are subtracting 30 trillion from the temperature- which would be  impossible.
But we are dividing.

This was already explained to you.
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Re: Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black hole (with new evidences)
« Reply #6 on: 30/03/2019 18:26:50 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 30/03/2019 09:47:17
Please do let delete my post,
Why do you post that?
Deleting people's posts is not something this forum does (unless the post is obscene or some such).
Your post is still here
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=76584.msg571356#msg571356
It's wrong, but nobody has deleted it.
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Re: Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black hole (with new evidences)
« Reply #7 on: 30/03/2019 18:29:21 »
Quote from: RobC on 30/03/2019 09:48:25
Re jose s. aldea Physicist
Tempted to ask "is this cosmobabble"?
Yes.
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Re: Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black hole (with new evidences)
« Reply #8 on: 30/03/2019 19:51:32 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 30/03/2019 09:47:17
Are we not after the truth?

Yes and LIGO found that truth when it detected gravitational waves from merging black holes.
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« Reply #9 on: 04/04/2019 09:15:21 »
All matters, once materialize, come in pair positive and negative. This is the law of the universe and in it is conservation  law. There is no such  thing as monopole..jsa 3.4.19
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« Reply #10 on: 04/04/2019 17:10:19 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 04/04/2019 09:15:21
This is the law of the universe and in it is conservation  law.

That's something you made up.

Quote from: jsaldea12 on 04/04/2019 09:15:21
There is no such  thing as monopole.

And individual electron is an electric monopole.
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« Reply #11 on: 05/04/2019 06:19:44 »
Can we have light from  bulb without positive and negative.? Thus, i is not true that onlynegative electrons pass through electrical wire.jsa 4.5.19
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« Reply #12 on: 05/04/2019 06:25:02 »
Kindly answer:More significant, that the   computation of collapsed black hole is based on escape velocity of earth, Gravity Constant, mass, speed of light, ,CMBR...  It is brilliant  but the basis of computation is anchored on  escape velocity of matter (spaceship) on earth.  But light and gravity are massless, not matter!. Both are waves of spacetime, Thus wherever there is gravity, there is built-in light. Thus  the basis of computation on matter (escape velocity)  appears not correct. jsas 4.4.19.
 
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« Reply #13 on: 05/04/2019 06:28:04 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 05/04/2019 06:19:44
Can we have light from  bulb without positive and negative.? Thus, i is not true that onlynegative electrons pass through electrical wire.jsa 4.5.19

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about a single, individual electron.

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But light and gravity are massless, not matter!

Light is attracted by gravity. Gravitational lensing demonstrates this.
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« Reply #14 on: 05/04/2019 06:28:35 »
Thus the computation of mass of earth converted to mass of  black hole appears not correct. jsa 4.5.19
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Quote from: jsaldea12 on 05/04/2019 06:28:35
Thus the computation of mass of earth converted to mass of  black hole appears not correct.

What does that even mean?
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« Reply #16 on: 05/04/2019 06:54:14 »
It means to use the computation of black hole of which light cannot escape  of strong gravitational force  based on matter is not right because light and gravitational force are not matter, both are function of waves of function of spacetime, jsa  4.4.19
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« Reply #17 on: 05/04/2019 06:56:59 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 05/04/2019 06:54:14
It means to use the computation of black hole of which light cannot escape  of strong gravitational force  based on matter is not right because light and gravitational force are not matter, both are function of waves of function of spacetime, jsa  4.4.19

Light falls towards a source of gravity just as quickly as matter does. This was demonstrated to be the case when gravitational lensing by the Sun was observed in 1919.
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« Reply #18 on: 05/04/2019 06:57:20 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 05/04/2019 06:19:44
Thus, i is not true that onlynegative electrons pass through electrical wire
It is true.
Just saying it isn't won't change that fact.
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Re: Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black hole (with new evidences)
« Reply #19 on: 05/04/2019 09:58:49 »
Quote from: jsaldea12 on 05/04/2019 06:19:44
Can we have light from  bulb without positive and negative.? Thus, i is not true that onlynegative electrons pass through electrical wire.jsa 4.5.19
Thus demonstrating that electricity is another thing you do not understand.
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