[Lance Canham (OP)]

 

I came across an article QUANTUM SPACE ELEMENTS Author: Peter Vass and in the first paragraph I find this

"It introduces a set of assumptions designed to eliminate infinities and a number of considerations about the mechanics of cosmic evolution in an environment of discrete and absolute space-time. The main concept being suggested is that vacuum energy exists and interacts with the observable physical universe."

Why I ask is that I believe the universe is infinite and dark energy is actually gravity, more to the point the stretching of space do to the compression of space where gravity pools. If it compresses somewhere it then must be stretched somewhere.

 attempts to fit expansion to this fail because a finite area of space is used and a finite amount of matter and or A finite size of pools of matter.

Further I believe the universe is creating cloud of particles much like  quarks at the knots in the large scale structure of the universe.  I believe that if you further pulled back you would find this pattern repeat again and again less and less developed every time you pull back. 

Obviously at this point in time the space between atoms is not shrinking or expanding it is now controlled by other forces than gravity. At some point in time the space between the knots in the large scale structure will stop expanding and a pattern will begin to develop in a scale larger as the next scale up starts to show structure and knots. 

The problem is we try to say the universe is only so big and has only so much that it can't explain dark energy.  I believe the problem is designing arguments to avoid infinity because we don't know how to handle it. But I believe that's what it is. Infinite.

[Kryptid]

Infinity usually causes problems when trying to do calculations. For example, imagine trying to calculate the strength of gravitational force when two point particles are touching each other. The equation predicts the strength of the gravitational attraction to rise to infinity when the distance between the gravitating bodies equals zero. So any two such particles should be inseparable. Of course, we now know that quantum mechanics keeps things from "touching" in such a classical way at those tiny distance scales, but it does help illustrate the point.

[Bored chemist]

It also makes the maths go wrong.
Two times infinity = three times infinity, therefore two equals three.

[Lance Canham (OP)]

good points. I figured that much.  I think there will be no solution to dark energy or dark matter for a very long time as both IMHO involve an infinite universe for the dark mater  and infinity and an infinite universe to solve dark energy.

The solution is missing because science for the most part has to work with finite amounts and  most people for the most part feel it is that way due to the big bang model which I believe is wrong.  If   the creation of the particles that make up normal matter as we know it  from the original dark matter the way im thinking then that would  would look like a bang as the particles that form would see it all happen in a blink even if the dark matter saw it happen in what appears to it billions of years. Its relative to the gravity well your in.

we see the knots in the large scale structure of the universe move real slow.  The Black holes see it happen fast and when that knot is pooled into one huge singularity it could look back and see that to it - it happened almost instantly.

There fore maybe we will never solve the puzzle with math. Just saying

In the end im trying to think OUT OF THE BOX and piece an idea together that might explain it.  maybe make You think out of the box.  Hawking said it should be simple. so I Look up and wonder - for almost 30 years I have been thinking this out  - they are  linked big and the small.  The more and more I thought about it over the years the more the pieces seem to just fall into place. It just seems to make sense.

Yes I know sometimes things look one way and in the end are not - might be true for this - Might be true for the big bang - You still can not explain dark matter and dark energy I don't try to change anything particle physics says just give a general view of what it honestly looks like dark matter is and dark energy and How (with out the math) it looks like particles form - If I look up and tie it to the small - some how it magically fits and the more I think about it Believe it to be.