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The Universe Inside and Out .
« on: 08/04/2019 05:54:24 »
The Universe Inside and Out !

Author: The Box



Contents:


⦁   Abstract : page 1


⦁   Introduction : page 2

⦁   Absolute Newtonian space : page 3-7

⦁   Micro bang theory (Point charge temporal transition to lower energy state points) : page 8-11

⦁   Seven dimensional interwoven manifold (A quantum singularity) : page 12-13

⦁   Seven dimensional interwoven manifold expansion ( Singularity expansion)

⦁   The n-field theory (The interior field matter of a Seven dimensional interwoven manifold expansion)

⦁   Seven dimensional interwoven manifold (Atomic matter)

⦁   The gravity mechanism

⦁   The nature of light

⦁   The meaning of time



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Abstract - The Universe inside and out is a scientific research and investigation of present scientific theory and the notions involved .  Firstly making analysis of the information in which is  proposed ostensible content .  Secondly , proposing corrections to the  ostensible content , before finally concluding a theory of everything reality which is accredited to the scientists of our past , with only minor changes of present semantics and interpretation .

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Introduction.


The Universe inside and out conceptually considers the intricate details of physical process in search of relative correctness !
Additionally , The Universe Inside and Out proposes several theoretical notions , including the beginning of the visual universe , the gravity mechanism , the true nature of light and the meaning of time .
In understanding any theory , it is firstly important we understand the attributes of a theory or hypothesis correctly in semantic terms . It is also of importance we understand what a theory or hypothesis is in the terms of realism.
A theory or hypothesis is an idea, an idea that relates to something, however we must not allow ourselves to become too besotted in any idea , unless it is of axiom tendencies.
An hypothesis differs from a theory, a theory has more foundation than a hypothesis , often having experimental results to back it up. Hypothesis's are often considered more of a speculation than a theory , being without any evidential merit.
We must not allow ourselves to speculate too vividly, our premise should remain based on axioms, we should not conclude that set theory , is fact, unless the evidence is axiom related and in accordance strictly relative.
An axiom is something that is self evidently true, it is important we understand that things that are self evidently true, are true, regardless of the “truth” of hypothesis or theory .
We must also presume that axiom's observed in our finite visual Universe, co-exist to be true on a broader scale of an infinite Universe or Multi-verse. There would be no valid reason to assume that our observed axioms are not the same and equal too, on a broader scale.
We must also remember that numbers are the invention of logical rules by humans to aid our existence. Numbers do not exist in the Universe, they only exist in our mental interpretation of process by using number equivalents to explain and accurately fit and explain a process or event.
The Universe exists without numbers and events happen regardless of the numbers involved. It is important that we understand that maths is not the answer to the Universe , it is a way to define a process or event in a different context other than words alone.
The process or event always preceding the maths, it is important to recall our history, Maxwell several years later creating the maths to ''fit'' Faraday's findings, the maths a later of the former.
When we observe limitation, we observe restriction, not only are we restricted to a visual limitation that establishes a finite visual Universe, we are also restricted to thinking inside of the ''box'' and have limitations in our thinking. Any thinking of ''outside'' of the box, can only be deemed to be speculation and hypothesis , never deemed to be fact until a future time where further investigations may lead to new findings beyond our limitations.
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« Reply #1 on: 08/04/2019 06:01:34 »
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 Absolute Newtonian space .


For purposeful and meaningful discussion I feel it is of utmost importance that we firstly all agree upon the definition of space .

 A continuous area or expanse which is free, available, or unoccupied.

It is important we do not change the context of this definition where semantics are important . People often generalise space as being contents included which is contradictory to our definition of space and not of fact .

Newton believed that absolute space remains always similar and immovable , independent of everything else . In consideration of what is space ? I propose that space is the unique property of an infinite void , agreeing with Newton that space is absolute and immovable . In regards to space , my scientific research as revealed there is no evidence that suggests anything other than these provided seven postulates :

1) Space cannot be created or destroyed

2) Space is immovable

3) Space is timeless and has no mechanism to age or decay

4) Space is the unique property of a void

5) Space has no mechanism to be visible light or visible dark

6) Space is transparent

7) Space has no physicality

There's no reason or reasons why these postulates are not of axiom value and hold true to observation . It would be quite absurd , subjective and illogical to disagree with the postulates without providing proof of evidence to demonstrate falsity of the postulates . Objectively , the seven postulates hold true and are unarguable without evidence of the contrary . An axiom is something that is self evidently true, it is important we understand that things that are self evidently true, are true, regardless of the “truth” of propositions , theory or hypothesis .
It is universally important that we define simplistic axiom's in a simple understandable manner that clarifies the exact content that all readers of the information can easily relate to without misinterpretation of the information.

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Absolute Newtonian space .
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 Let us now in brief detail discuss each postulate individually to clarify our understanding !

1) Space cannot be created or destroyed

It would be illogical to suggest that space , which has no physicality , can be created or destroyed ! There is no observed evidence to suggest anything other than the proposed postulate . Even after a nuclear bomb test , when the cloud settles , the observed space remains unaltered although there will be an increased radiation/energy levels , occupying that space .

2) Space is immovable

Bodies traverse through space and a bodies emitted spatial field moves with the body through space . The body moves relative to other bodies and all bodies move relative to space . Space itself being the relative stationary reference frame of fixed geometrical points . There is no evidence observational or otherwise to suggest that geometrical points of space can be displaced . Minkowski space-time , XYZt , is a four dimensional manifold coordinate system where the background is ''fixed '' and an objects coordinates are calculated by this . Einsteins four dimensional space-time and curvature is of field lines relative to the ''fixed'' reference frame of Minowski's space-time . However , in all scenarios , XYZt , is a finite metric visual measurement within a greater Newtonian absolute space .

3) Space is timeless and has no mechanism to age or decay

Observationally with our eyes we can observe the decay of things and the aging of things . However , we never observe with our eyes the aging or the decaying of the space . Neither can we measure the age or decay of space as the only property of space itself is spatial room . It is quite clear literally speaking , that space itself has no mechanism to age or decay .

4) Space is the unique property of a void

A void is empty space and the only property of a void is the space until some thing such as matter is placed within the void ''frame'' . I do not feel this postulate needs a greater explanation other than this .

5) Space has no mechanism to be visible light or visible dark

We only observe the visible light of objects but at times we can observe visible light when visible light is formed , such as a rainbow . Generally we do not observe visible light of / in the space between masses but we can detect it . The space itself has no mechanism to produce visible light and the space does not have magnitude of permeability to cause sufficient interaction with electromagnetic radiation to produce visible light .
Space neither has mechanism to be visible dark , darkness is of objects that are not illuminated , darkness not existing of the space . The space being relative transparent and clear to observation , passive to all matter .

6) Space is transparent

See postulate 5 .

7) Space has no physicality

There is no evidence to suggest that space itself has physicality , presence of bodily structure . Space is passive and this is seemingly evident . In the inflation of a balloon , the exterior space of the balloons surface , passes through the surface of the balloon , unimposing to become interior space . Similar we can move an upside down glass on a flat surface to the left or the right and the space passes through the glass , the movement displacing the interior air to a different position but not displacing the  space .  There can be no doubt that space has no physicality and the demonstration and simple experiments of the balloon and the glass confirms this .


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« Reply #2 on: 08/04/2019 06:06:34 »
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 Absolute Newtonian space .

The Balloon experiment


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We can observe in the diagram that when the deflated balloon is inflated , point A , is not displaced by the balloons surface . Effectively point A passes through the balloons surface unimposed  to become an interior point . 

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  Absolute Newtonian space .

The glass experiment


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We can see in the diagram an upside down glass on a flat surface  being displaced from the left to the right . The enclosed air is displaced with the glass but we can observe the space is not displaced .

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Absolute Newtonian space .

Pre-existing space model .


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The Universe Inside and Out concludes that absolute space as always existed and will always exist .  Space itself pre-existing before any sort of construction of matter . Additionally is concluded that space is passive to all matter as the prior simplistic observational experiments seem to agree with .
In consideration of this is provided a pre-big bang model of the concluded pre-existing real coordinate space that has unspecified dimensions .  This to be expressed  Rⁿ  in a maths sense .


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Re: The Universe Inside and Out .
« Reply #3 on: 08/04/2019 06:22:38 »
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 06:01:34
An axiom is something that is self evidently true, it is important we understand that things that are self evidently true, are true

Long ago, many people considered the Earth's flatness to be self-evidently true. Then it turned out to not actually be true.
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« Reply #4 on: 08/04/2019 06:33:32 »
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An axiom is something that is self evidently true, it is important we understand that things that are self evidently true, are true

Long ago, many people considered the Earth's flatness to be self-evidently true. Then it turned out to not actually be true.
They just weren't very clever back then , you only have to consider the Suns and Moon roundness to consider the earth round too .  So to be honest I wouldn't have considered that was self evidently true when there was round things to consider .
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« Reply #5 on: 08/04/2019 06:38:31 »
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 06:33:32
So to be honest I wouldn't have considered that was self evidently true

They would have, though. This was back before anyone knew the Earth was a planet.
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« Reply #6 on: 08/04/2019 13:38:56 »
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So to be honest I wouldn't have considered that was self evidently true

They would have, though. This was back before anyone knew the Earth was a planet.
Of course they would of because they haven't the information we have now .  With space , we have 2019 years of time recorded and in all that time the space itself hasn't changed any . It is more than obvious we can't destroy space because for 1, we couldn't even think of a way to destroy it .  It's an impossibility .
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Re: The Universe Inside and Out .
« Reply #7 on: 08/04/2019 15:14:57 »
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 13:38:56
Quote from: Kryptid on 08/04/2019 06:38:31
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 06:33:32
So to be honest I wouldn't have considered that was self evidently true

They would have, though. This was back before anyone knew the Earth was a planet.
Of course they would of because they haven't the information we have now .  With space , we have 2019 years of time recorded and in all that time the space itself hasn't changed any . It is more than obvious we can't destroy space because for 1, we couldn't even think of a way to destroy it .  It's an impossibility .
So you think space and time has existed for 2019 years? You get funnier by the day pigeon..
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  Micro bang theory (Point charge temporal transition to lower energy state points).



We've already discussed the absolute of space and in a sense , space is an infinite volume of nothingness that has always existed and will always exist . It would seem quite impossible that a fundamental energy that powered the Universe could manifest itself from nothingness . Any given point of space would have no force or pressure acting on it , it would seem a miracle would be required for zero point energy (ZPE) to form at any given point of space . The notion of how energy first manifested is seemingly imperceivable , we can only make our best guess's , using our knowledge , logic and intuition of how this manifestation event could of possibly occurred.

The present model , The Big Bang Theory , suggests the universe expanded from a very high-density and high-temperature state but gives no origin reason(s) of how this high-density , high -temperature state manifested . Micro bang theory is my proposal and best ''guess'' of how this high-density , high -temperature state manifested, proposing opposite polarity electrostatic point charges (mono-poles) , popping into and out of existence .

The Universe inside and out considers the conditions of a very high-density and high-temperature state , firstly recognising and proposing , that for any form of energy to exist or any event to take place , that energy or event would with a certainty need a pre-existing spatial volume to exist in or occur in . Thus concluding a pre-existing absolute space as explained prior .


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Micro bang theory (Point charge temporal transition to lower energy state points).


The Universe inside and out now explores the physics involved in the process and what would happen to a manifested point charge , that manifested at any given point of real coordinate space. In conceptual thought of a point charge namely zero point energy , it would be seemingly apparent that the surrounding spatial points of real coordinate space would have a lesser magnitude of energy and a lesser dense state than the higher density , higher energy state of the point charge .  This proposal demonstrated in the following model where U is internal energy and Rⁿ is a lesser energy state , unspecified  volume of real coordinate space .


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In consideration of thermal dynamics and spectral emissions , a higher energy state points energy , traverses to lower energy state points . In the second law of thermodynamics ,heat flows naturally from an object at a higher temperature to an object at a lower temperature. Too assume a point charge does not function the same way would seem unrealistic ! Proposing that a manifested point charge undergoes a temporal transition , changing from one state or condition to another over a period of time , would seem realistic and an evidential proposal based on thermal dynamics and spectral emissions .

One could suggest that the point charge simply self annihilates by dispersing into space , by the natural self drive mechanism of higher energy temporal transition to lower energy state points . This would seem a ''true'' assumption and for our understanding the Universe inside and out proposes and requests you accept the self annihilation to be namely , The Micro bang process .








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« Reply #9 on: 08/04/2019 15:25:52 »
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So to be honest I wouldn't have considered that was self evidently true

They would have, though. This was back before anyone knew the Earth was a planet.
Of course they would of because they haven't the information we have now .  With space , we have 2019 years of time recorded and in all that time the space itself hasn't changed any . It is more than obvious we can't destroy space because for 1, we couldn't even think of a way to destroy it .  It's an impossibility .
So you think space and time has existed for 2019 years? You get funnier by the day pigeon..
That's not what I said , you've just made that up .

Please do not disrupt this thread .
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Re: The Universe Inside and Out .
« Reply #10 on: 08/04/2019 15:27:02 »
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 13:38:56
With space , we have 2019 years of time recorded and in all that time the space itself hasn't changed any
Yes you did.
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« Reply #11 on: 08/04/2019 15:35:15 »
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Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 13:38:56
With space , we have 2019 years of time recorded and in all that time the space itself hasn't changed any
Yes you did.
I guess you can't read , that does not say space is 2019 years old at all , that says there is 2019 years of time measured and in all that time not one recorded observation of space itself changing .

Stop trolling .
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Re: The Universe Inside and Out .
« Reply #12 on: 08/04/2019 15:37:38 »
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 15:35:15
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 15:27:02
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 13:38:56
With space , we have 2019 years of time recorded and in all that time the space itself hasn't changed any
Yes you did.
I guess you can't read , that does not say space is 2019 years old at all , that says there is 2019 years of time measured and in all that time not one recorded observation of space itself changing .

Stop trolling .
Says the King of Trolls who opens up multiple threads...

If you post something and make a claim, expect to be questioned critically - that is how science works.

Where did you get the figure that there is '2019 years of time measured' then?
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Micro bang theory (Point charge temporal transition to lower energy state points).

It is proposed to you , that from the instant of manifestation of the point charge , the charge energy is instantly attracted to all of the surrounding real coordinate space of lesser energy , in an isotropic manner . This event being a conditional and natural transitional state , causality of self annihilation .
It is also proposed to you that the speed of this temporal transition process is the constant of c . The speed of light being a causality of the temporal transition of energy to a lower state energy .
The Universe Inside and Out concludes , the force involved in the event of temporal transition of the energy to a lower state energy of the micro bang process , is the force of the lesser energy , concluding F<U  , where F is force and U is internal energy .
In concluding this , The Universe Inside and Out  provides a further diagram on the micro-bang process.


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In consideration of the individuality of each opposite charge of the micro bang process , the universe inside and out requests you preliminary accept

Q1 = Negative charge mono-pole point charge

Q2 = Positive charge mono-pole point charge

Additionally expressing

caea1bf76fde08196a8030210226aa92.gif=ρ0   

A negative charge point charge divided by an unspecified volume of real coordinate space equals 0 density

9ec4429c94d4b3e9d55e8608f3489df5.gif=ρ0

 A positive charge point charge divided by an unspecified volume of real coordinate space equals 0 density

ƒ:F→<U 

The function of force is less than internal energy U .







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« Reply #14 on: 08/04/2019 15:51:34 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 15:37:38
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 15:35:15
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 15:27:02
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 13:38:56
With space , we have 2019 years of time recorded and in all that time the space itself hasn't changed any
Yes you did.
I guess you can't read , that does not say space is 2019 years old at all , that says there is 2019 years of time measured and in all that time not one recorded observation of space itself changing .

Stop trolling .
Says the King of Trolls who opens up multiple threads...

If you post something and make a claim, expect to be questioned critically - that is how science works.

Where did you get the figure that there is '2019 years of time measured' then?
You are trolling , stop it .

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Re: The Universe Inside and Out .
« Reply #15 on: 08/04/2019 16:01:00 »
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 15:51:34
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 15:37:38
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 15:35:15
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 15:27:02
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 13:38:56
With space , we have 2019 years of time recorded and in all that time the space itself hasn't changed any
Yes you did.
I guess you can't read , that does not say space is 2019 years old at all , that says there is 2019 years of time measured and in all that time not one recorded observation of space itself changing .

Stop trolling .
Says the King of Trolls who opens up multiple threads...

If you post something and make a claim, expect to be questioned critically - that is how science works.

Where did you get the figure that there is '2019 years of time measured' then?
You are trolling , stop it .


No - I am asking a reasonable question. Why wont you answer it?
You have this nasty little habit of calling into question the baseless assertions you make trolls, or government stooges etc. This reveals you as nothing more than a shallow egotist.
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Re: The Universe Inside and Out .
« Reply #16 on: 08/04/2019 16:05:43 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 16:01:00
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 15:51:34
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 15:37:38
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 15:35:15
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 15:27:02
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 13:38:56
With space , we have 2019 years of time recorded and in all that time the space itself hasn't changed any
Yes you did.
I guess you can't read , that does not say space is 2019 years old at all , that says there is 2019 years of time measured and in all that time not one recorded observation of space itself changing .

Stop trolling .
Says the King of Trolls who opens up multiple threads...

If you post something and make a claim, expect to be questioned critically - that is how science works.

Where did you get the figure that there is '2019 years of time measured' then?
You are trolling , stop it .


No - I am asking a reasonable question. Why wont you answer it?
You have this nasty little habit of calling into question the baseless assertions you make trolls, or government stooges etc. This reveals you as nothing more than a shallow egotist.
You know very well the year is 2019 , you know very well that was my comparison , you're trolling and trying to break the thread flow . Stop it .
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Re: The Universe Inside and Out .
« Reply #17 on: 08/04/2019 16:08:45 »
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 16:05:43
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 16:01:00
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 15:51:34
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 15:37:38
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 15:35:15
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 15:27:02
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 13:38:56
With space , we have 2019 years of time recorded and in all that time the space itself hasn't changed any
Yes you did.
I guess you can't read , that does not say space is 2019 years old at all , that says there is 2019 years of time measured and in all that time not one recorded observation of space itself changing .

Stop trolling .
Says the King of Trolls who opens up multiple threads...

If you post something and make a claim, expect to be questioned critically - that is how science works.

Where did you get the figure that there is '2019 years of time measured' then?
You are trolling , stop it .


No - I am asking a reasonable question. Why wont you answer it?
You have this nasty little habit of calling into question the baseless assertions you make trolls, or government stooges etc. This reveals you as nothing more than a shallow egotist.
You know very well the year is 2019 , you know very well that was my comparison , you're trolling and trying to break the thread flow . Stop it .
Yes the year is 2019. That does not mean 2019 years measured unless you are going to deny Greek culture, Egyption culture etc as well as science.
This is a reasonable question. You have admitted before you are trolling,. Stop accusing other people when they ask you questions about comments that are patently ridiculous.
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« Reply #18 on: 08/04/2019 16:19:32 »
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 ridiculous.

It was an example , you know it was, so stop trolling . You are fragmenting my thread intentionally , stop it unless you have  something positive to say about my theory thus far .

added- Moderators , could you please remove the unrelated content from MR Spoon , defrag my theory thanks .
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Re: The Universe Inside and Out .
« Reply #19 on: 08/04/2019 16:37:16 »
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2019 16:19:32
Quote from: The Spoon on 08/04/2019 16:08:45


 ridiculous.

It was an example , you know it was, so stop trolling . You are fragmenting my thread intentionally , stop it unless you have  something positive to say about my theory thus far .

added- Moderators , could you please remove the unrelated content from MR Spoon , defrag my theory thanks .
I ma not - I am calling you out on something else you are factually incorrect about. You do not get to decide who comments on your thread or what they say. Your comment about recorded time was not an example and you know it. you said:

'With space , we have 2019 years of time recorded and in all that time the space itself hasn't changed any'

What pisses me off is when you get called out etc you bring on this self pity, somebody trolling you, a government conspiracy, flouncing off saying you are leaving then coming back like a case of dermatitis.
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