[alright1234 (OP)]

The following figure show a radioactive isotope within the bubble chamber.




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[Kryptid]

The following figure show a radioactive isotope within the bubble chamber.

Some grapes have seeds in them. Does it therefore follow that all grapes have seeds in them? Cut it out with the generalization fallacy.

When are you going to answer why a radioactive isotope would be placed inside of a chamber intended to simulate weather?

[alright1234 (OP)]

The following figure show a radioactive isotope within the bubble chamber.

Some grapes have seeds in them. Does it therefore follow that all grapes have seeds in them? Cut it out with the generalization fallacy.

When are you going to answer why a radioactive isotope would be placed inside of a chamber intended to simulate weather?

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[Kryptid]

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All you're doing is showing me a bunch of grapes with seeds in them. Do you think that somehow proves there are no seedless grapes?

When are you going to answer why a radioactive isotope would be placed inside of a chamber intended to simulate weather?

[Bored chemist]

The following figure show a radioactive isotope within the bubble chamber.

...

Yes; iit does. Nobody said that those don't exist, did they?

But why did you post it, rather than actually answering the questions?

[Bored chemist]

Quote from: Bored chemist on 04/05/2019 02:55:33
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/05/2019 19:07:27
BTW, we are still waiting for you to come up with a credible explanation of proton beam therapy.

Gamma rays

I said a credible explanation.
Gamma rays are not affected by a magnetic field, and they don't have the same biological effect as a proton beam.
That's why they pay for accelerators in hospitals.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 04/05/2019 02:55:33
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/05/2019 19:07:27
BTW, we are still waiting for you to come up with a credible explanation of proton beam therapy.

OK,
And, if you look here.

https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=8535.0
You find that the rules say
"The site is not for evangelising your own pet theory.  It is perfectly acceptable that you should post your own theory up for discussion, but if all you want to do is promote your own idea and are not inviting critical debate about it, then that will not be acceptable."
Now, since you can't or won't answer reasonable criticism, you are not following the rules.

Don't be shocked, or complain about censorship, if you get banned for persistently breaking the rules.

[Kryptid]

Rutherford's gold foil experiment demonstrates clearly that charged particles (alpha particles in this case) can travel through solid matter under the right circumstances. The majority of the alpha particles fired at the thin piece of gold foil travel right through it to the detector placed behind it:

[alright1234 (OP)]

 The images of the bubble tracks were created using bubbles that are randomly distributed on the surface of the bubble chamber window formed by the compression of the liquid hydrogen. The continuous curved lines of the spiral paths of the Fermilab bubble tracks were drawn using a white felt pen. Furthermore, the photographs of the liquid hydrogen bubble tracks are two dimensional yet the bubble tracks are formed with the three dimensional volume of the 15 ft spherical shape bubble chamber yet all the particle physics bubble tracks photographs are two dimensional which proves the Fermilab particle physic experiment is a hoax since the two dimensional bubble tracks contradict the three dimensional structure of the bubble chamber. The alcohol tracks formed by the Wilson cloud chamber is used to justify the Fermilab bubble tracks but a radioactive isotope within the glass enclosure of the cloud chamber is forming the alcohol tracks.

[Colin2B]

yet all the particle physics bubble tracks photographs are two dimensional which proves the Fermilab particle physic experiment is a hoax 

A conspiracy theory based on the fact that photographs are 2 dimentional?? Laughable.
Don’t know much about photography do you.

[Kryptid]

yet all the particle physics bubble tracks photographs are two dimensional

All photographs are two dimensional...

but a radioactive isotope within the glass enclosure of the cloud chamber is forming the alcohol tracks.

Why do you completely ignore what has been said to you?

[Bored chemist]

The alcohol tracks formed by the Wilson cloud chamber is used to justify the Fermilab bubble tracks but a radioactive isotope within the glass enclosure of the cloud chamber is forming the alcohol tracks.

And again...
If that was true then the tracks would start from the wall of the chamber where (traces of) radioactive material might be found.

They do not all start at the walls, so you are wrong.
Again; how do you not understand this?

[Bored chemist]

All photographs are flat.
Not all cloud chamber recordings are flat.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226283285_A_condensation_nucleus_counter_with_stereo-photomicrographic_recording

So, even when he's wrong, he's wrong.

[Bored chemist]

How do a proton form hydrogen bubbles?

Nobody said it did.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 04/05/2019 02:55:33
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/05/2019 19:07:27
BTW, we are still waiting for you to come up with a credible explanation of proton beam therapy.

Gamma rays

I said a credible explanation.
Gamma rays are not affected by a magnetic field, and they don't have the same biological effect as a proton beam.
That's why they pay for accelerators in hospitals.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 04/05/2019 02:55:33
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/05/2019 19:07:27
BTW, we are still waiting for you to come up with a credible explanation of proton beam therapy.

[alright1234 (OP)]

Really, how much kinetic energy does the subatomic particles loss after propagating through the steel enclosure of the bubble chamber?

[Bored chemist]

Really, how much kinetic energy does the subatomic particles loss after propagating through the steel enclosure of the bubble chamber?

It rather depends, Some get stopped, some are slowed down and some go through.
Now, could you stop wasting time and answer my question.

BTW, we are still waiting for you to come up with a credible explanation of proton beam therapy.

[alright1234 (OP)]

Really, how much kinetic energy does the subatomic particles loss after propagating through the steel enclosure of the bubble chamber?

It rather depends, Some get stopped, some are slowed down and some go through.
Now, could you stop wasting time and answer my question.

BTW, we are still waiting for you to come up with a credible explanation of proton beam therapy.

Then how would you determine the masses and energies of the subatomic particles? And proton beam therapy is caused by the radioactive isotope that is emitting gamma rays.

[Kryptid]

Then how would you determine the masses and energies of the subatomic particles?

The electron's mass was derived once both the magnitude of the electron's charge was determined from the oil drop experiment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_drop_experiment) and the charge-to-mass ratio (determined by how much cathode rays deflect in an electric field of known strength). Charge-to-mass ratios can also be used to determine the mass of protons and heavier nuclei. Did you really think physicists were too stupid to figure that out?

And proton beam therapy is caused by the radioactive isotope

I'm calling your bluff. What is the radioactive isotope that is used? Make sure you provide a link to a reputable source when you answer. If you can't find a source, then you have no evidence to support your claim.

But I already know that there is no such radioactive isotope used. Here is a description from a proton beam therapy website that states that regular hydrogen is what is used, not some radioisotope: https://protons.com/proton-advantage/how-does-proton-therapy-work

that is emitting gamma rays.

If it uses gamma rays, then what are the magnets in the device used for?

[Colin2B]

.....And proton beam therapy is caused by the radioactive isotope that is emitting gamma rays.

Why are you still persisting in posting blatent lies.

[evan_au]

And proton beam therapy is caused by the radioactive isotope

Are you perhaps thinking of cobalt-60, which was used in early radiotherapy, and did use gamma rays?

Proton therapy has the advantage that you can control the depth at which the energy is deposited.
This is not possible with gamma rays.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_therapy

Cobalt therapy... is now being replaced by other technologies such as linear accelerators.

You can't accelerate a gamma ray!

[Bored chemist]

And proton beam therapy is caused by the radioactive isotope that is emitting gamma rays.

I asked for a credible explanation.
We have already pointed out that your "gamma ray" response made no sense.
Why did you repeat it?

You missed the part where I explained that you can't accelerate gamma rays with magnetic fields...

said a credible explanation.
Gamma rays are not affected by a magnetic field, and they don't have the same biological effect as a proton beam.
That's why they pay for accelerators in hospitals.

Gamma rays cannot be steered or accelerated by magnetic fields (how many times do I have to say this?), so your explanation is not credible.

Gamma rays can't be accelerated by the magnetic fields of a particle accelerator.