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Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?

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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #140 on: 14/04/2019 18:06:55 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/04/2019 15:26:17
Time is what clocks measure by ticking.
Nothing then ?
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #141 on: 14/04/2019 18:08:41 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 14/04/2019 18:06:32
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 17:52:32
You got the idea , Mr C is starting to worry and trying put you off .

You do realize what that means, right? It means that it's impossible to set up an experiment that will tell you the difference between ticking dilation and true time dilation. This makes your idea of ticking as a separate phenomenon from time an unfalsifiable hypothesis. If it isn't falsifiable, then it isn't scientific.
There is no such thing as a time dilation , a clock doesn't measure time ,  a clock is our aid to record time .  Time is our construct , it doesn't exist other than the use of the practitioner .


In the universe there is one now , this now never ever changes , it is always now.  People age , that's time .


True definition of time - Time is the aging process of matter relative to ageless space .

The aging process can speed up or slow down .

Einstein knew this , but Einstein did dare not remove time from science , he was subtle and brought in the Twin paradox to leave us a message .

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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #142 on: 14/04/2019 18:41:16 »
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 17:52:32
Mr C is starting to worry
No he's not.
Or rather, as usual, he's worried about your nonsense cluttering the site.
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #143 on: 14/04/2019 18:42:07 »
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 18:06:55
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Time is what clocks measure by ticking.
Nothing then ?
No, not "nothing", time.
That's what clocks are for.
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #144 on: 14/04/2019 18:43:44 »
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 18:08:41
Time is the aging process of matter
And it varies in accordance with general relativity.
For things like muons we can measure tehri aging, and it varies with velocity.
Nothing you can say stops that being true.
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #145 on: 14/04/2019 18:46:39 »
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 18:08:41
Time is our construct , it doesn't exist other than the use of the practitioner .
If that was true, it didn't exist round here prior to about 4 billion years ago because that's the earliest life.
So, how did things happen in the right order before there were any "practitioners"?

Certainly, mankind didn't construct it, so who or what did?
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #146 on: 14/04/2019 18:48:50 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/04/2019 18:43:44
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 18:08:41
Time is the aging process of matter
And it varies in accordance with general relativity.
For things like muons we can measure tehri aging, and it varies with velocity.
Nothing you can say stops that being true.

Yes that's correct ,the aging process changes , never ever denied that I can demonstrate real life examples . 

''No, not "nothing", time.''

No , time is manmade ,  it is relatively nothing with no physicality .

Things age differently in the same amount of ''time'' . 

Freeze something if you don't believe me .

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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #147 on: 14/04/2019 18:50:41 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/04/2019 18:46:39
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 18:08:41
Time is our construct , it doesn't exist other than the use of the practitioner .
If that was true, it didn't exist round here prior to about 4 billion years ago because that's the earliest life.
So, how did things happen in the right order before there were any "practitioners"?

Certainly, mankind didn't construct it, so who or what did?
Things change because of physics Mr C ,  not because of time .  Destroy a caesium clock , does ''time'' stop ? Of course not because it is a construct .
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #148 on: 14/04/2019 19:01:04 »
Time is a quantifiable construct measurement directly proportional to recording age .

That's an accurate definition with no lies ..

Added - How does the aging process work ?  The aging process has a frequency , if you froze yourself , your aging frequency would slow down , if you stood in a fire your aging process would speed up , if you stay relative constant , you age relatively constant .

Change the temperature of the caesium and the frequency changes .

ΔS→Δf  where S is entropy and f is frequency

The arrow is action causality symbol  ;)  A change of entropy causes a change of frequency


Ok have you got it now ?  Want to do what is space next ?

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Additionally , The Universe Inside and Out proposes several theoretical notions , including the beginning of the visual universe , the gravity mechanism , the true nature of light and the meaning of time .


I fixed all your errors for you and I still get treated like an idiot , find some respect for crying out loud , I've advanced your chit big time making undisputable theory . Only a real true genius could destroy physics , rewrite that physics  and physics still comes out smelling of roses . 
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #149 on: 14/04/2019 19:37:52 »
Science thinks I'm nutz yet everything is science and science speaks to me and I speak back .
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #150 on: 14/04/2019 19:47:44 »
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 18:50:41
Destroy a caesium clock , does ''time'' stop ? Of course not because it is a construct .
Time carries on in spite of the broken clock, precisely because Time is not a construct.
It was here before there was anyone to construct any concept of time or any clock.
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 18:48:50
Things age differently in the same amount of ''time'' . 

Freeze something if you don't believe me .
OK, so you think liquid water is the same as ice.
That's so daft I'm not sure how to respond (apart from the obvious-  pointing out that it's nonsense).
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 19:01:04
The aging process has a frequency , if you froze yourself , your aging frequency would slow down , if you stood in a fire your aging process would speed up , if you stay relative constant , you age relatively constant .
Just plain wrong.


Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 19:01:04
Change the temperature of the caesium and the frequency changes .

No it does not.
That's one reason they chose it.

And it's another example of where it would be better if you actually learned stuff.
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 19:01:04
Only a real true genius could destroy physics , rewrite that physics  and physics still comes out smelling of roses . 
Maybe a genius could; that would certainly explain why you have failed.
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #151 on: 14/04/2019 19:50:57 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/04/2019 19:47:44
Maybe a genius could; that would certainly explain why you have failed.
You are really so obtuse Mr C and you are a state employee ?  Wow …

Learn some science Mr C ,


Krytid can see the same logical thought ''path'' as me, he understands the error , whether he admits it or not is another story , depends how much nutz he got .  He can envision , he has skills like me . He could see his friend counting slower on the plane .

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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #152 on: 14/04/2019 20:03:49 »
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 19:50:57
You are really so obtuse Mr C
I may well be.
But you have yet to demonstrate the fact.
You have, on the other hand, cited an example which actually contradicts your assertion.
How obtuse is that?
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #153 on: 14/04/2019 20:04:42 »
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 19:50:57
He could see his friend counting slower on the plane .
Not if he was on the same plane, he couldn't.
That's the point.
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #154 on: 14/04/2019 20:06:20 »
Let's now discuss what is objectively , space ?

We do not know how big space is so when considering space we can express Rⁿ  , an unspecified volume of real coordinate space .   Space time is independent of absolute space but indistinguishable from space as the energy propagating through space is invisible so is well blended in to be indistinguishable of space but not dependent of space .
Space is immovable and never changes , things change relative to space . 
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #155 on: 14/04/2019 20:07:51 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/04/2019 20:04:42
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 19:50:57
He could see his friend counting slower on the plane .
Not if he was on the same plane, he couldn't.
That's the point.
If he was on the same plane he would still be counting faster than his friend . You have no point .
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« Reply #156 on: 14/04/2019 20:09:31 »
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 20:07:51
If he was on the same plane he would still be counting faster than his friend .
Guess again.
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #157 on: 14/04/2019 20:09:53 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/04/2019 20:03:49
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 19:50:57
You are really so obtuse Mr C
I may well be.
But you have yet to demonstrate the fact.
You have, on the other hand, cited an example which actually contradicts your assertion.
How obtuse is that?
It doesn't contradict it at all Mr C , you are being obtuse and don't take offense to this , it did take me a decade to get to an understanding of being able to explain it .
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #158 on: 14/04/2019 20:12:49 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/04/2019 20:09:31
Quote from: Thebox on 14/04/2019 20:07:51
If he was on the same plane he would still be counting faster than his friend .
Guess again.
What ?  You are confusing yourself ,  if you get on a plane with a friend and he is counting slower than you , you can observe that .  If your friend got on a plane counting slow without you , you can still observe that with mobile communication .  When your friend returns to you and has counted less than you , you have still been away from each other for the exact same amount of time . 
If you can't see that Mr C , I'd give up on science if I were you .
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Re: Does science think we are all stupid as they create more lies ?
« Reply #159 on: 14/04/2019 20:24:16 »
Understand , your friend leaves you now , throughout the entire journey now doe's not change , he returns to you now , he has aged and you have aged but now never changed .  It never does .

It is now in England
It is now in America
It is now on the Moon
It is now on the Sun
It is now as far as we can observe
It is always now and things age , now never changes .

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