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[Bored chemist]

Squiggles again

[evan_au]

A Box

This is incomprehensible.

Please phrase it as a question, or it will be deleted in 24 hours.

Please attach some descriptive text, or it will be an unanswerable question.

[guest39538]

A Box

This is incomprehensible.

Please phrase it as a question, or it will be deleted in 24 hours.

Please attach some descriptive text, or it will be an unanswerable question.

It's not a question , it's a design with workable physics .  You don't expect me to give the entire information of the design away do you when there is no copyrights or patents ?

I'll explain in principle , I've reversed a camera mechanics , it is the opposite function of a camera . 

Dude it's a weapon , I can't be too open can I …?


If you want me sayin open chat all the details so everyone can make one , no problem , it will hardly be unique then though and generate British science some investment from overseas .


added - I've offered before even though I can't afford it to come down to Cambridge and demonstrate to  you a few ''tricks'' . 

My designs are workable designs , I know how physics works .

[Bored chemist]

You don't expect me to give the entire information of the design away do you when there is no copyrights or patents ?

Yes and no.

Since that sort of disclosure is something you signed up to when you joined the site; yes, we do expect it.
If you don't feel that's appropriate then don't post it here. If you don't post it then, No, we don't expect you to post further details.

Your best bet is to delete the thread, because it's not doing anything useful.

[guest39538]

You don't expect me to give the entire information of the design away do you when there is no copyrights or patents ?

Yes and no.

Since that sort of disclosure is something you signed up to when you joined the site; yes, we do expect it.
If you don't feel that's appropriate then don't post it here. If you don't post it then, No, we don't expect you to post further details.

Your best bet is to delete the thread, because it's not doing anything useful.

If I don't post something and delete the thread , how am I suppose to get interest in doing some experimental research ?

If I explain the main design , anyone could do it .  I want to keep it in the UK .  But if I don't tell you about the design , you'd never know . 

I'm stuffed if I tell you , I'm stuffed if I don't . Science makes it very difficult to proceed . You'll just have to trust me I know physics and the design I have workable physics , how good it is going to be depends , but it will 100% work because when I open an oven door , I am blasted with the transition of energy .

[Bored chemist]

how am I suppose to get interest in doing some experimental research ?

You won't.
You have a track record of pretending to understand stuff, but being monumentally wrong.
Why would anyone fund you?

[Bored chemist]

ut it will 100% work because when I open an oven door , I am blasted with the transition of energy .

Ovens, too, are full of hot air.

[guest39538]

how am I suppose to get interest in doing some experimental research ?

You won't.
You have a track record of pretending to understand stuff, but being monumentally wrong.
Why would anyone fund you?

I never said fund me, I said do some experimental research .  Why would anybody ? Because I have some really good physic ideas .

Ovens, too, are full of hot air.

Yes , obviously , as my box contains U . 

[Bored chemist]

Because I have some really good physic ideas .

Where?
And why do you post dross here if you also have good ideas.

I wonder if you wear glasses.
I do. That's why I know that what hits you when you open the oven door is warm wet air from the oven. That's why my specs steam up while cooking.

[guest39538]

Because I have some really good physic ideas .

Where?
And why do you post dross here if you also have good ideas.

I wonder if you wear glasses.
I do. That's why I know that what hits you when you open the oven door is warm wet air from the oven. That's why my specs steam up while cooking.

Using air and an oven was an example MR C of transition . You always want too many free details . 

Idea thieves I swear . 


F³ = <V = >ρ

If you don't understand that math Mr C , you need to give up .

[Bored chemist]

You seem to be trying to use this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra%E2%80%93ket_notation
 and failing.
In any event it would be impossible to say what you mean because, for example, ρ is used for 4 different things in physics and you haven't said which one you mean.

So, what do you think the letters mean?

[guest39538]

You seem to be trying to use this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra%E2%80%93ket_notation
 and failing.
In any event it would be impossible to say what you mean because, for example, ρ is used for 4 different things in physics and you haven't said which one you mean.

So, what do you think the letters mean?

M = mass
D=density
V=volume
<=less than
>=greater than
ρ=density
F=force

My math does not fail in explanation Mr C


added - ΔΕ=9.81j/m Δ 944.076141j/m  I think it is ..

P.s Both of those results being a dependent variable , the design is a variable design considering safety aspects .

[evan_au]

You don't expect me to give the entire information of the design away do you when there is no copyrights or patents ?

There are Copyrights, and they are free.
- All you have to do is put a note down the bottom of the picture that says "Copyright 2019, The Box" (although your actual name would be better).
- That will prevent someone making copies of your diagram and distributing them for money
- But it won't stop people on the discussion board where you posted it discussing them (this is "fair use")
- Most importantly, Copyright does not protect an invention. If someone draws a picture of their oven, and uses a different way of showing heat coming out of their oven, it doesn't violate your copyright, and they can make as many copies of it as they like (provided that it isn't a blatant copy, eg mirror image reversal, or thicker lines, etc)

To protect an invention, you need a patent.
- The first step is to define the invention - what is novel and useful
- The next step is to search for any other patents that may have similar ideas ("prior art"). Fortunately, Google has some patent search tools
- I imagine many people have had the idea of a stove with a door you can open! So there will be lots of prior art.
- Then you have to document the patent, with all the details so anyone skilled in the art could reproduce it.
- And explain in detail what is novel about your invention, and why yours is different from all previous patents
- If you want this to be enforceable, you will get a patent attorney to help you. This will cost thousands of pounds/dollars; I have dealt with these guys, and they speak a language all their own!
- Then you have to file the patent with the patent office (and pay 4000 pounds), where it will be examined, queried, and filed under a suitable category.
- You can't patent a law of nature or a formula (although the patent office has become more flexible about patenting algorithms)
- If you have a well-written patent application, and are very quick about answering all the questions, you will get a patent awarded after about 5 years and a lot of money, after which you can discuss it with other people without a non-disclosure agreement. Then they will tell you how much money they think it is worth.

Filing a patent used to cost a lot of money, but now many countries have a cheap self-filing patent system for individuals (but the UK doesn't seem to be one of them)
- These self-filing systems only have a simple review - if an application is clearly unsuitable, it may be rejected at this stage
- But the difficulty really comes if you want to enforce it later - you may find that the language used by ordinary people makes it totally unenforceable

So you could file a patent, which will cost you a lot of money, and a lot of time and have to answer a lot of tough questions, only to be told it is worthless...
- Or you could just tell us about it, and we'll do it for free! (and quite quickly, too, if the past is any guide...)
- I think you will save yourself a lot of grief if you just describe it fully on the discussion board....

See: https://www.gov.uk/patent-your-invention/decide-to-apply

[Bored chemist]

You seem to be trying to use this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra%E2%80%93ket_notation
 and failing.
In any event it would be impossible to say what you mean because, for example, ρ is used for 4 different things in physics and you haven't said which one you mean.

So, what do you think the letters mean?

M = mass
D=density
V=volume
<=less than
>=greater than
ρ=density
F=force

My math does not fail in explanation Mr C


added - ΔΕ=9.81j/m Δ 944.076141j/m  I think it is ..

P.s Both of those results being a dependent variable , the design is a variable design considering safety aspects .

OK, so, as usual, you are wrong by dimensional analysis.
Nobody is going to invest in something which a bright schoolkid could show to be wrong.
But that won't stop you getting a patent.

[guest39538]

You don't expect me to give the entire information of the design away do you when there is no copyrights or patents ?

There are Copyrights, and they are free.
- All you have to do is put a note down the bottom of the picture that says "Copyright 2019, The Box" (although your actual name would be better).
- That will prevent someone making copies of your diagram and distributing them for money
- But it won't stop people on the discussion board where you posted it discussing them (this is "fair use")
- Most importantly, Copyright does not protect an invention. If someone draws a picture of their oven, and uses a different way of showing heat coming out of their oven, it doesn't violate your copyright, and they can make as many copies of it as they like (provided that it isn't a blatant copy, eg mirror image reversal, or thicker lines, etc)

To protect an invention, you need a patent.
- The first step is to define the invention - what is novel and useful
- The next step is to search for any other patents that may have similar ideas ("prior art"). Fortunately, Google has some patent search tools
- I imagine many people have had the idea of a stove with a door you can open! So there will be lots of prior art.
- Then you have to document the patent, with all the details so anyone skilled in the art could reproduce it.
- And explain in detail what is novel about your invention, and why yours is different from all previous patents
- If you want this to be enforceable, you will get a patent attorney to help you. This will cost thousands of pounds/dollars; I have dealt with these guys, and they speak a language all their own!
- Then you have to file the patent with the patent office (and pay 4000 pounds), where it will be examined, queried, and filed under a suitable category.
- You can't patent a law of nature or a formula (although the patent office has become more flexible about patenting algorithms)
- If you have a well-written patent application, and are very quick about answering all the questions, you will get a patent awarded after about 5 years and a lot of money, after which you can discuss it with other people without a non-disclosure agreement. Then they will tell you how much money they think it is worth.

Filing a patent used to cost a lot of money, but now many countries have a cheap self-filing patent system for individuals (but the UK doesn't seem to be one of them)
- These self-filing systems only have a simple review - if an application is clearly unsuitable, it may be rejected at this stage
- But the difficulty really comes if you want to enforce it later - you may find that the language used by ordinary people makes it totally unenforceable

So you could file a patent, which will cost you a lot of money, and a lot of time and have to answer a lot of tough questions, only to be told it is worthless...
- Or you could just tell us about it, and we'll do it for free! (and quite quickly, too, if the past is any guide...)
- I think you will save yourself a lot of grief if you just describe it fully on the discussion board....

See: https://www.gov.uk/patent-your-invention/decide-to-apply

I will post the full idea on here soon , whatever happens , happens .

[guest39538]

Nobody is going to invest in something which a bright schoolkid could show to be wrong.

You are wrong Mr C , it will work . How efficient it may be can only be concluded by experiment , the results from the experiment will fill in the blanks , the measures .

[Bored chemist]

Nobody is going to invest in something which a bright schoolkid could show to be wrong.

You are wrong Mr C , it will work . How efficient it may be can only be concluded by experiment , the results from the experiment will fill in the blanks , the measures .

Your maths is still wrong.

[guest39538]

Nobody is going to invest in something which a bright schoolkid could show to be wrong.

You are wrong Mr C , it will work . How efficient it may be can only be concluded by experiment , the results from the experiment will fill in the blanks , the measures .

Your maths is still wrong.

How is it when it explains my design and is the math for that design ?  You can't say it is wrong based on you don't understand it , I'd demonstrate it to you in person ever so easily . 

Like I said it is a variable , I specifically have designed it that way because it can go nuclear and that is one main reason I don't want to reveal too much information in open forum chat . 

The measures will be easy to put in after , you know trial and error until it achieves what is required .

[Bored chemist]

I already explained why it's wrong.
Unfortunately, you were too busy  telling me how clever you are, and how little I understand , to actually understand it.
Have another go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensional_analysis

I'd demonstrate it to you in person ever so easily . 

Do it by video.