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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #200 on: 03/05/2019 20:33:58 »
Quote from: Thebox on 03/05/2019 17:54:24
Unknowingly it is

If it was, electromagnetic waves would be setting it off all the time and the device wouldn't be able to tell the difference between waves from local sources and those from colliding neutron stars/black holes light-years away.

Quote from: Thebox on 03/05/2019 17:54:24
its set up to detect gravitational waves which are electrostatic neutrally charges waves

All electromagnetic waves are already neutral. Electromagnetic waves don't cause the fluctuations in mirror distance that Einsteinian gravitational waves do. They cannot be responsible for LIGO's detections.
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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #201 on: 04/05/2019 12:00:07 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 03/05/2019 20:33:58
Quote from: Thebox on 03/05/2019 17:54:24
Unknowingly it is

If it was, electromagnetic waves would be setting it off all the time and the device wouldn't be able to tell the difference between waves from local sources and those from colliding neutron stars/black holes light-years away.

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its set up to detect gravitational waves which are electrostatic neutrally charges waves

All electromagnetic waves are already neutral. Electromagnetic waves don't cause the fluctuations in mirror distance that Einsteinian gravitational waves do. They cannot be responsible for LIGO's detections.
Maybe it's a specific polarity or  wavelength and/or frequency that sets it off .  Anyway , I'm glad you recognise the neutral of waves , you should now recognise why a  field aether would also have to be neutral . If it were not neutral it would impose a force on the neutral binary electromagnetic waves .  A positive charged ''wave''  would propagate through space slower than a neutral wave because the positive of the aether binary would push back  creating a resistance force .
The neutrality of the aether making it transparent to propagating neutral waves .


Additionally you now may understand a N-field particle and a N-field .  A N-field particle is denser than a N-field  , a N-field is denser than space .

N-field particle = atom

N-field = spatial fields /aether

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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #202 on: 04/05/2019 12:55:27 »
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you should now recognise why a  field aether would also have to be neutral
No. For the same reason that unicorns don't have to be neutral.
We looked really carefully, and it isn't there.

If there was some ether which could affect LIGO then it would also affect the MM experiment.
There wasn't one.
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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #203 on: 04/05/2019 12:56:47 »
Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 12:00:07
Additionally you now may understand a N-field particle and a N-field .  A N-field particle is denser than a N-field  , a N-field is denser than space .

N-field particle = atom

N-field = spatial fields /aether

Why do you  post word salad like that?
Are you genuinely under the delusion that it means something, or are you being deliberately unclear?
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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #204 on: 04/05/2019 15:13:09 »
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Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 12:00:07
Additionally you now may understand a N-field particle and a N-field .  A N-field particle is denser than a N-field  , a N-field is denser than space .

N-field particle = atom

N-field = spatial fields /aether

Why do you  post word salad like that?
Are you genuinely under the delusion that it means something, or are you being deliberately unclear?

Are you really that mediocre minded and clueless you don't understand that ?

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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #205 on: 04/05/2019 15:14:54 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 04/05/2019 12:55:27
We looked really carefully, and it isn't there.If there was some ether which could affect LIGO then it would also affect the MM experiment.There wasn't one.
Maybe you didn't look carefully enough ...especially seems as the earth emits an aether field . You don't seem to have much scientific vigour ?
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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #206 on: 04/05/2019 15:35:22 »
Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 12:00:07
Maybe it's a specific polarity or  wavelength and/or frequency that sets it off .

Maybe? Do you not even know how LIGO works? You can't claim that LIGO detected your hypothetical electrostatic waves if you don't even know the principle at work behind its detectors. I happen to know how it works and no form of electrical or magnetic phenomenon can duplicate the effect that gravitational waves have on those detectors.
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« Reply #207 on: 04/05/2019 15:45:08 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 04/05/2019 15:35:22
Do you not even know how LIGO works?
I know of LIGO , it uses light .  Perhaps you can explain the method in full and simple terms ?


My way to detect an aether is much more physical and forced , I intend to curve the aether making it denser to physically see with our eyes .  You think splitting an atom was good ?  How about splitting time and space ?
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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #208 on: 04/05/2019 19:01:13 »
Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 15:13:09
Are you really that mediocre minded and clueless you don't understand that ?
No.
I'm really so astutely minded that I can spot bull when I see it.

However, if you are still trying to claim that it is meaningful, you would do better if you tried to explain it than by trying to criticise me.
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« Reply #209 on: 04/05/2019 19:06:52 »
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No.I'm really so astutely minded that I can spot bull when I see it.However, if you are still trying to claim that it is meaningful, you would do better if you tried to explain it than by trying to criticise me.
You extract information like a juicer extracts juice ...hmmm.


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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #210 on: 04/05/2019 19:14:00 »

Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 19:06:52
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Would you like to explain what that's meant to mean?
In particular, that equation is  wrong.
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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #211 on: 04/05/2019 19:14:41 »
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You extract information like a juicer extracts juice ...hmmm.
Not really, since I have more or less totally failed to get anything meaningful out of you.
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« Reply #212 on: 04/05/2019 19:19:34 »
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Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 19:06:52
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Would you like to explain what that's meant to mean?
In particular, that equation is  wrong.
That means if you were to take a quantum field of 0 net charge  and divide this quantum field by 2 , you would split space and time creating an electrical charge measure .

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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #213 on: 04/05/2019 20:48:04 »
Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 19:19:34
Quote from: Bored chemist on 04/05/2019 19:14:00

Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 19:06:52
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Would you like to explain what that's meant to mean?
In particular, that equation is  wrong.
That means if you were to take a quantum field of 0 net charge  and divide this quantum field by 2 , you would split space and time creating an electrical charge measure .


OK, so it's poetry, rather than science.
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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #214 on: 04/05/2019 21:21:53 »
Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 15:45:08
Perhaps you can explain the method in full and simple terms ?

Einsteinian gravitational waves cause a stretching and contracting of space along two planes perpendicular to the direction of the waves' travel. As the wave passes through matter, the matter along one axis perpendicular to the direction of travel is stretched while it is compressed along the axis at a 90 degree angle to both the direction of travel and the angle of stretching. As the wave progresses, the direction of the stretching and compressing is reversed, then it is reversed again, and so on until the wave passes completely through the piece of matter. This is a trait unique to gravitational waves. Electromagnetic waves don't do anything like this.

LIGO utilizes this stretching and compressing of space at 90 degree angles to each other in order to pick out the unique signature that GWs produce. There are two "arms" of the device, set at 90 degree angles to each other where lasers are shined through a vacuum towards mirrors. The lasers are arranged in such a way that complete destructive interference prevents any of the laser light from reaching the photodetector if it takes an equal amount of time for both beams to reach the mirrors and reflect off.

So if a gravitational wave passes through the instrument, it causes one arm of LIGO to be slightly stretched and the other to be slightly compressed. Since the speed of light is the same in all reference frames, it takes the laser slightly less time to travel along one arm than the other. The disturbs the perfect destructive interference, allowing some of the laser light to leak through to the photodetector.

By the way, your equation (0Q/2 = Q) would always result in an answer of zero. Zero is in the numerator, and anything multiplied by zero is zero. Pretty pointless if it always gives the same answer no matter what value you put in for Q.
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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #215 on: 04/05/2019 21:55:48 »
Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 19:19:34
Quote from: Bored chemist on 04/05/2019 19:14:00

Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 19:06:52
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Would you like to explain what that's meant to mean?
In particular, that equation is  wrong.
That means if you were to take a quantum field of 0 net charge  and divide this quantum field by 2 , you would split space and time creating an electrical charge measure .


If that's what you meant, why didn't you say so in the first place, rather than making the obviously stupid assertion that zero equals two.
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« Reply #216 on: 04/05/2019 22:28:36 »
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OK, so it's poetry, rather than science.
Well it isn't opera , you do know the difference between science , poetry and opera don't you ?
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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #217 on: 04/05/2019 22:32:45 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 04/05/2019 21:21:53
By the way, your equation (0Q/2 = Q) would always result in an answer of zero. Zero is in the numerator, and anything multiplied by zero is zero. Pretty pointless if it always gives the same answer no matter what value you put in for Q.
There is no multiply , 0Q is one thing not 0*Q

I'll try it this way

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added - maybe this way

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Re: The interior interwoven binary aether of a BH
« Reply #218 on: 05/05/2019 10:01:39 »
Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 22:28:36
Quote from: Bored chemist on 04/05/2019 20:48:04
OK, so it's poetry, rather than science.
Well it isn't opera , you do know the difference between science , poetry and opera don't you ?
Yes, science has to be clear.
And since you ruled out opera, I must be right; you are creating poetry.

Why not try actually explaining what you mean?
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« Reply #219 on: 05/05/2019 14:24:34 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 05/05/2019 10:01:39
Quote from: Thebox on 04/05/2019 22:28:36
Quote from: Bored chemist on 04/05/2019 20:48:04
OK, so it's poetry, rather than science.
Well it isn't opera , you do know the difference between science , poetry and opera don't you ?
Yes, science has to be clear.
And since you ruled out opera, I must be right; you are creating poetry.

Why not try actually explaining what you mean?
I've explained several times before but I suppose I'll explain again . If we took single dimension of space and gave it a length x , a linearity , this linearity will have the properties of a spatial field  and 0 net charge .  x is a binary interwoven fabric of a+b .
To split the binary we add force and divide the binary by force causing time and space to split and an arc of the aether .
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