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theory that a magnet is like a fan, push and draw N and S
« on: 27/04/2019 20:05:28 »
In a magnet, all the electrons in the atoms circle in the same direction, this creates a fan like churning that sends outward waves of density along space in the pattern of the magnetic field.

So what I'm saying is a magnet is like a fan, for example if you placed two fans facing each other they would push apart, much the way two north or south ends of a magnet would. And if you attached two fans together facing the same direction they would stick together, just like the north and south ends of a magnet would.

 In an AC current the motion of the electrons is back and forth between the copper atoms in the wire as opposed to a direct current where the electrons pass along in one direction between the cathode and the anode. It would make since that the back and forth motion of the electrons between atoms in an AC current is caused by the circulating magnet in the generator. While North faces one direction it pushes out like a fans wind on the copper atoms, when it rotates 180 degrees and south is facing that direction the pull or draw on the electrons in the copper wiring brings the electrons back.

 If you spun a fan around inside a loop of plastic balls you would push on and pull on the plastic balls similar as a magnet does to the electrons in an an AC current. You could probably fuel and build a computer this way as well, a mechanical one anyways.

I know I talk about space as a medium which current physics considers it not. That's why I came up with the following experiment to prove that space is a medium to magnetism, gravity, and light. It uses a femto camera which captures up to 10 trillion frames per second and can record light as it illuminates objects across a dark room.

The basic hypothesis is that if space is a medium for light, which currently it is considered not to be, that light will travel faster with the medium of space then against it. The femto camera could be used to record light as it expands from a source, freeze the frame where it has partially illuminated a ruler, then look in the picture to see if light does in fact travel faster in one direction then another by analyzing the ruler. My expected results are as space travels past the room it will carry light faster in one direction then the other and the Femto camera will catch that. There are other specifics like placement of everything so the results aren't screwed up.
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Re: theory that a magnet is like a fan, push and draw N and S
« Reply #1 on: 27/04/2019 21:06:32 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 27/04/2019 20:05:28
In a magnet, all the electrons in the atoms circle in the same direction,
No, they don't.
If they did it would emit radiation and the electrons would spiral into the middle.

Also, please don't misuse the word "theory"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
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Re: theory that a magnet is like a fan, push and draw N and S
« Reply #2 on: 27/04/2019 21:09:05 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/04/2019 21:06:32
Also, please don't misuse the word "theory"

It's probably unfortunate that this very section of the board is called "New Theories".
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Re: theory that a magnet is like a fan, push and draw N and S
« Reply #3 on: 27/04/2019 21:18:49 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/04/2019 21:06:32
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 27/04/2019 20:05:28
In a magnet, all the electrons in the atoms circle in the same direction,
No, they don't.
If they did it would emit radiation and the electrons would spiral into the middle.

Also, please don't misuse the word "theory"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

I'm tired of your hype you bag of gas, you have no internet strength.

"To put it simply, the electrons in a magnet tend to be oriented the same way." https://www.thoughtco.com/how-magnets-work-3976085
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Re: theory that a magnet is like a fan, push and draw N and S
« Reply #4 on: 28/04/2019 09:43:50 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 27/04/2019 21:09:05
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/04/2019 21:06:32
Also, please don't misuse the word "theory"

It's probably unfortunate that this very section of the board is called "New Theories".
We have a "that can't be true" section...
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Re: theory that a magnet is like a fan, push and draw N and S
« Reply #5 on: 28/04/2019 09:46:32 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 27/04/2019 21:18:49
I'm tired of your hype
Look up the meaning of the word "hype".
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 27/04/2019 21:18:49
you have no internet strength.
One interesting aspect of the internet is that it renders everyone equally "strong".

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 27/04/2019 21:18:49
"To put it simply, the electrons in a magnet tend to be oriented the same way." https://www.thoughtco.com/how-magnets-work-3976085

It doesn't matter who writes it.
It still isn't correct.
It might be a good enough description for a kiddies science explanation like that, but it's not a good enough description to use for a scientific analysis.
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Re: theory that a magnet is like a fan, push and draw N and S
« Reply #6 on: 29/04/2019 01:50:56 »


Here's a mechanical rectifier for our fan driven plastic ball AC. The plate between the balls moves back and forth spinning the two wheels on right and left, but at opposing times, and opposite directions. The rectifier belt changes the direction of the wheel so that both wheels are spinning in the same direction and giving a continuous output. Can anyone explain how an electronic rectifier works similar to this mechanical one?
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Re: theory that a magnet is like a fan, push and draw N and S
« Reply #7 on: 29/04/2019 01:56:20 »
This might be of some interest to you: https://phys.org/news/2011-05-when-the-speed-of-light.html
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Re: theory that a magnet is like a fan, push and draw N and S
« Reply #8 on: 29/04/2019 10:41:36 »
Quote from: OP
record light as it expands from a source, freeze the frame where it has partially illuminated a ruler, then look in the picture to see if light does in fact travel faster in one direction then another by analyzing the ruler.
This is a difficult experiment to do, even with a foot ruler and a femtosecond camera.
- A ruler might be calibrated to 1/8 inch
- You must capture at least 1 photon in your camera
- And the light propagating in the different directions must be captured in a calibrated way by a camera that is in one point in space

This experiment was done with great precision by Michelson and Morley in 1887.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experiment#Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experiment_(1887)
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Re: theory that a magnet is like a fan, push and draw N and S
« Reply #9 on: 29/04/2019 20:07:38 »


Welp it took me till 4:30 am but I came up with an amplifier for my plastic ball fan AC current. The weak current caused by the small balls at (A) causes the effort on the lever at (B) to travel up and down the lever depending on how much power is applied through the gear system at (A). If the effort moves up the lever the weight at (C) begins to fall. The powerful weight releases pressure from the power source at (D). The turbine in the pipe at (E) spins the gears at (F) which creates an amplified signal current for the bigger balls.
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