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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #20 on: 14/07/2019 16:10:34 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 14/07/2019 15:03:09
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/07/2019 14:51:13
And because it does not make your life different, it can not possibly make it better.
As our existence doesn't depend on a full composition of our body, that is if " God forbidden" you lost your leg you still you there are a  lot of of possibilities in your body like coming fat or slim as well as a lot of possibilities of your life because you may then have different decisions and you might meet different circumstances.
And, because I still can't even be aware of all the possible other versions of me, it still make no difference.
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #21 on: 14/07/2019 17:44:35 »
I think life in general is good, we have water, oxygen and food, there is not a need that can't be fulfilled, so death shouldn't be a problem and cause us an illness " religion is an illness and not natural", death and life are cyclic just  like pain and joy..
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #22 on: 14/07/2019 17:53:01 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/07/2019 16:10:34
And, because I still can't even be aware of all the possible other versions of me, it still make no difference.
You are right
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #23 on: 15/07/2019 10:57:20 »
What if I have a copy of me " me and another person which are exactly the same and both are alive?
since the other person's nerves are not connected to my mind I won't feel his feelings and vice versa, but if one died me or him the feelings will be unified that is they become one person which is me and him.
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #24 on: 15/07/2019 10:59:46 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 15/07/2019 10:57:20
the feelings will be unified
How?
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #25 on: 15/07/2019 12:07:13 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 15/07/2019 10:59:46
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 15/07/2019 10:57:20
the feelings will be unified
How?
I feel my leg and my arm, but they are different feelings in different places, if I cut off my leg I will still feel my arm I still have sensation , If I feel there in the other person and I feel in me " but the feelings are separated" then if one feeling in the person stops" he died" the other feeling "in me " will continue., if both persons are the same then the sensation will be unified in one of us.
He will die and immediately start to feel in me without remembering his death etc
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #26 on: 15/07/2019 13:24:33 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 15/07/2019 12:07:13
He will die and immediately start to feel in me without remembering his death etc

...what?
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #27 on: 16/07/2019 05:40:35 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 15/07/2019 13:24:33
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 15/07/2019 12:07:13
He will die and immediately start to feel in me without remembering his death etc

...what?
In other words, the other person will die and appear again as me since we have the same body components.
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #28 on: 16/07/2019 10:29:07 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 16/07/2019 05:40:35
In other words, the other person will die and appear again as me since we have the same body components.
Did this happen to you?
Why not?- if, as you suggest, there have been an infinite number of big bangs before ours.
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #29 on: 16/07/2019 16:02:05 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2019 10:29:07
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 16/07/2019 05:40:35
In other words, the other person will die and appear again as me since we have the same body components.
Did this happen to you?
Why not?
Interesting.We can't remember it but we might feel it.All civilizations, beliefs and religions have the idea of a soul"which represent eternal life" , people believed in after life being eternal since ancient times.We feel that we will live again and interpret that in form of religions.
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #30 on: 16/07/2019 18:19:35 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 16/07/2019 16:02:05
we might feel it
Did you?
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 16/07/2019 16:02:05
people believed in after life being eternal since ancient times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinking
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #31 on: 16/07/2019 18:47:44 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/07/2019 18:19:35
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 16/07/2019 16:02:05
we might feel it
Did you?
No.I may made a mistake we won't feel it nor remember it , we are a new creation , the sensation will cease from the dead one and appear in his copy, the first person stored information which vanished the time he died.
« Last Edit: 16/07/2019 19:22:06 by Yahya A.Sharif »
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #32 on: 17/07/2019 13:16:35 »
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 16/07/2019 18:47:44
the sensation will cease from the dead one and appear in his copy,
And once again...
Have you experienced this?
If not, why not?
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #33 on: 17/07/2019 13:54:23 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/07/2019 13:16:35
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 16/07/2019 18:47:44
the sensation will cease from the dead one and appear in his copy,
Have you experienced this?
Of course I did.Infinite times.An I will exist infinite times in the future.
« Last Edit: 17/07/2019 14:03:14 by Yahya A.Sharif »
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #34 on: 17/07/2019 14:09:14 »
No.
I mean has the current, local version of you actually experienced it- can you say what it's like?
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #35 on: 17/07/2019 14:17:47 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/07/2019 14:09:14
No.
I mean has the current, local version of you actually experienced it- can you say what it's like?
No, it was another version of me.
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #36 on: 17/07/2019 14:20:09 »
Why doesn't the current version of you "remember"?
If you are right about lots of big bangs we all ought to have "memories" of doppelgangers.
Unless, of course your imaginary mechanism for remembering things that didn't happen, doesn't work.
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #37 on: 17/07/2019 14:36:13 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/07/2019 14:20:09
Why doesn't the current version of you "remember"?
We remember things via information inside our minds if there are not information we cant remember, a person will be created again without previous information however with same code of his body parts that makes him him,it is something like making exact new copy of computer without the information on the other computer .but the first computer works exactly like the other computer.

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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #38 on: 17/07/2019 16:55:56 »
Then this
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 16/07/2019 18:47:44
the sensation will cease from the dead one and appear in his copy,
can't be right.
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Re: The possibility of coming to life again after death
« Reply #39 on: 17/07/2019 19:03:20 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/07/2019 16:55:56
Then this
Quote from: Yahya A.Sharif on 16/07/2019 18:47:44
the sensation will cease from the dead one and appear in his copy,
can't be right.
What if I lost my memory completely does that mean I lose sensation of my own self?does that mean as a living being I change to another person , or my feelings continue and I'm the same entity?
There is a difference between my material parts of brain which gives sensation such as cells, and what stored inside it, right?
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