[RTCPhysics (OP)]

Gravity is the odd man out in the ‘Standard Model of Particle Physics’.

With the discovery of Gravitational Waves and the Higgs field, the concept of universal force fields has become part of mainstream physics.

The aim of this article is to give an explanation of how a universal force field, built from particles of energy that can interact with particles of matter, create the gravitational force that we experience every day.

The name given to this particle of energy, is the graviton.

The concept employed here is quite straight forward, being based upon a universal ‘particle structure’ of space that takes the form of a three dimensional ‘cubic lattice’, in much the same way that atoms order themselves within metals and crystals.

This particle structure of space, functions through the presence of a particle of energy, which are sited at each node of the lattice. The particles must be weakly attracting, for if the attraction was too strong, most of life as we know it, would be crushed.

Each energy particle in the cubic lattice has six other identical particles located at its adjoining nodes, with four in the same horizontal plane, plus one above and one below.

All six attract the central particle towards themselves and as they are all an equal distance apart and have the same magnitude, they create an equilibrium of forces upon the central graviton particle.

This pattern is duplicated for every particle in the ‘three-dimensional’ lattice, so the whole universal lattice is completely stable and just as importantly, it is flexible.

The equilibrium of this universal lattice is only disturbed, when a body of matter develops within it.

The creation of a gravitational force within the universal lattice starts from zero, as the lattice is initially undistorted. But the presence of just one atom causes the horizontal and vertical lattice tiers to be displaced outwards by an amount that is determined by the atom’s mass.

This displacement creates an inwardly directed force acting from all directions around the atom, as the displaced lattice particles remain connected to their six neighbouring particles and are all ‘drawn back’ towards their original locations in the lattice by their inter-particle attracting links.

The attachment of a second atom to the first atom, leads to both atoms experiencing an increased inwardly directed gravitational force acting upon them, as the second displacement of the horizontal and vertical lattice tiers around them, leads to more particles being co-opted into having extended links around the two atoms.

This outwards displacement of the inner lattice tiers towards the next outer tiers of the lattice, develops a stronger gravitational force operating all around the body of matter, as their extended links are closer together.

This force is the beginning of the internal gravitational field created within a body of matter.

A key point to stress about this lattice model, is that the force of gravity is not an inherent capability of the atom, as could be implied from Newton’s formula, but is created by the distortion of the particle lattice.

This lattice displacement process is repeated every time a new atom attaches itself to the body of matter, with the process ending at the body’s outer surface.

Here, the internal gravitational force around the body of matter has reached its maximum strength, being inwardly directed towards the centre point of the body of matter where the force is zero.

But as the gravitational field has developed within the same universal lattice structure, the internal and external parts of their field are in equilibrium all around the surface of the body of matter, but with the external force field declining to zero with its increasing radial distance from the surface of the body of matter.

In effect, the internal and external gravitational fields are a mirror images of each other in all directions around the body of matter.
 
With this structural model of gravity to work with, it is now possible to illustrate how two macro bodies of matter, located in space, are physically drawn together within the framework of the universal lattice.

The presence of a second body of matter in the gravitational neighbourhood of the first body of matter, causes the outer lattice tiers of both their gravitational fields to be compressed together.

This compression of the universal lattice tiers, creates an attracting force to develop between their two gravitational fields that starts their movement towards each other.

The greatest displacement of the lattice occurs at their closest point of contact, this being along a straight line between their two centres of gravity.

The movement together of both bodies of matter, forces the tiers of the universal lattice to be drawn closer together, but at the same time, releasing the lattice field lines at the rear of each body of matter, enabling these tiers to return to their original positions in the universal lattice.

Once the movement towards each other has started, the mutually attracting force between them constantly increases, accelerating their speed of movement towards each other.

If left to this force, the two bodies of matter will eventually collide, just as other matter does in our universe.

The only way of escaping a collision is if one body of matter is already moving in a direction away from the other, with an escape velocity that enables it to counter this mutually attracting gravitational force.

One of the features of this concept of a universal lattice of particles, is the dynamic nature of the force of the gravitational field created by a moving object

When a planet is orbiting around its star, it displaces the lattice particles within and around itself creating its own gravitational field, but as it moves on in its orbit, the lattice passes through it, being reformed again behind it, whilst the lattice in front is displaced, re-creating its gravitational field once again.

This process is also true for a body of matter moving along the surface of the earth.

Just as the magnetic field of the earth, streams through you without you being aware of its presence, so the graviton particle lattice is constantly present within you, binding your mass to the earth’s surface, wherever you are located upon it.

However, the quantum structure of the particle lattice model, has another implication.

The number of lattice particles displaced by the mass of a body of matter is a finite quantity and the attracting force acting between the lattice particles in their equilibrium state, also has a finite magnitude.

Based upon the principle that energy can be neither created nor destroyed and that a body’s mass is a fixed quantity at a particular point in time, then the gravitational field around a body of matter, is itself finite in size, coming to an abrupt end in all directions at the outermost undistorted horizontal and vertical tiers of the universal lattice.

This change of gravity from an infinite reach to a finite reach has its consequences.

Until such time as their body masses grow to a size that enables the compressed lattice tiers around them to meet, there is no gravitational attraction between them, as implied by Newton’s formula.

Hence the stars in a galaxy that are located too far apart for their gravitational fields to reach each other, remain isolated within the  galaxy.

This is also why individual human beings with their tiny gravitational fields, do not experience any gravitational force acting between them.

However, the quantum nature of the particle lattice of gravity, explains how two colliding bodies of matter, such as two stars or two galaxies, initiate a vibrational effect all around the perimeter of their joint gravitational fields, which spreads out in all directions,

These vibrations exploit the flexibility of the graviton lattice by transmitting gravitational waves, which have now been experimentally verified as existing throughout space.
 

[Kryptid]

This is also why individual human beings with their tiny gravitational fields, do not experience any gravitational force acting between them.

Or the pull is so minuscule that you don't notice it due to the other forces acting on you that are many orders of magnitude stronger.

We have measured the gravitational attraction between bodies that are much smaller and less massive than humans, so you are wrong that no gravitational attraction exists between humans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment#The_experiment

[RTCPhysics (OP)]

I was trying to illustrate the quantum nature of a gravitational field.

All bodies have a gravitational field, but unlike Newton's formula, all gravitational fields have a finite reach in all directions.

Hence if the gravitational fields of two separate bodies of matter lie outside of their joint gravitational field reach, then they will not experience any gravitational attraction together.

Proving this will require a very sensitive experiment to determine if gravity is continuous or quantum in its nature. It is not something I have the means to test, but perhaps you have.

For sure, fact is better than fiction!   

[jerrygg38]

You have some interesting ideas. The graviton could be a photon that bombards everything. the net result would be a universe with external pressure pushing everything together.
   If you look at the field between two objects that are near each other such as the sun and the Earth. You would be able to detect the local field between them. Once you move away, the field is still there but it becomes mixed with all the other fields. Thus when you move to a nearby galaxy all you would see is a combined field. The gravitational waves we detect is because the individuals fields are extremely strong.
   My own gravitons are high light speed photons in the Cs dimension where
Cs = 18832.8 Co. Thus we live in a dual light speed universe of X,Y,Z,Co, and Cs. It is the high speed photons that push everything together and at the same time expand the universe.

[Kryptid]

The graviton could be a photon that bombards everything.

They have fundamentally different properties (the graviton would be a spin 2 particle, whereas the photon is spin 1).

[evan_au]

unlike Newton's formula, all gravitational fields have a finite reach in all directions.

In particle physics, the range of a force field is determined by the lifetime of the carrier particle. So:
- Photons: mediate the electromagnetic force; they are massless and have an infinite lifetime. So the electromagnetic field has an infinite range.
- W & Z Bosons: mediate the weak nuclear force; they have a high mass, and a lifetime around 10^-24 seconds. The Weak force has a range of less than the diameter of a proton
- Mesons: mediate the strong nuclear force in the nucleus; they have a moderate mass, and a lifetime under a microsecond. The Strong nuclear force has a range about the diameter of a Uranium nucleus.

Gravitons mediate the gravitational force. They travel at the speed of light (confirmed to an extraordinary degree of precision during the collision of two neutron stars). This means they are massless, and gravity has an infinite range.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_star_merger#Observed_mergers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_interaction#Properties

[jerrygg38]

evan said
Gravitons mediate the gravitational force. They travel at the speed of light (confirmed to an extraordinary degree of precision during the collision of two neutron stars). This means they are massless, and gravity has an infinite range.
   What was confirmed? Our telescopes and measuring instruments operate by photons and electrons in the light speed Co dimension. So the high degree only shows us the interactions at the speed of light C. Normally we do not pick up the high light speed Cs photons where Cs = 18823Co.
   Someday we will have light speed Cs sensors. With them we will know in advance when a star explodes or the reasonable present time of the black hole interactions.
   The main problem is that we do not have a single time dimension. In fact time does not really exist. There was no time when the universe came into being. It always existed. All we have is a big bang which is the start of this particular configuration of the universe. The first cause therefore is meaningless.
   The work of Einstein is excellent. It is a very important and accurate mathematical analysis . Yet physically it is false. An object in motion spends a greater percentage of the travel distance in the Cs light speed dimension as it speeds up. The clock does not move when it is in the light speed Cs dimension. We then get the appearance that the distance traveled in the Co dimension that has shrunk and the clock has slowed.
   

[Kryptid]

Yet physically it is false.

Based on what evidence?

[Bored chemist]

Cs = 18832.8 Co

Which hat did you get that out of?

[jerrygg38]

TDWT2020 1.19.20 9.30pm
GG had said said:Yet physically it is false
Kryptid asked “What evidence is it based on
GG: I am not a scientist and I do not use ordinary logic and reasoning to arrive at answers. I have a hypo-manic mind which enables me to readily communicate with my unconscious mind as per the understanding of Carl Jung. To solve various problems I will fill my conscious mind with data. My unconscious mind will work on the problems while I sleep and provide the answers to me in dreams or an inner voice which speaks to me. If I bring my mind up to a manic high I get audio/visual communication between the various sections of my brain.
    My unconscious mind does not think step by step. It provides answers. Then I must try to work backwards to explain how to get to the answers. As an engineer I was always given the problems others could not solve. I gave the answers but I often could not explain how I arrived at them. Yet the bosses and the government was happy for the solutions.
   My work on understanding the universe began in 1981. My unconscious mind wanted to understand how we came to be. So IU studied religion, philosophy, and physics. As soon as I put enough data into my conscious mind, answers came from my unconscious mind. However I did not have enough information for my unconscious mind to produce an answer.
   I see engineering type solutions. Models and simple algebraic equations are what I want to understand. The physicists want complex math but I want to understand how the  universe got here and where it is going. For years I strove to find answers from a single light speed solution. Einstein’s work was very good but if time is a dimension then the universe had a first cause.
   My unconscious mind was never satisfied with my solutions. It specified to my conscious mind that we come from a higher light speed dimension. I just copyrighted my latest book “The Dot-wave Theory and the Dual light speed Universe with Quantum Entanglement 2020. I am awaiting the proof copies from Amazon shortly.
   Every time I finished a prior book, my unconscious mind was unhappy. It was not good enough. So far it is telling me that my answers are good. Time will tell. I send my books to various professors and unfortunately my work has not been good enough so far. I am hoping that this time I will be successful.
  I said:  Cs=18832.8Co
Bored Chemist asked “What hat did you get that from?
GG: Inmy original year 2000 book “Doppler Space Time” for the electrical universe solution
Mass = coulomb meters per second
G = meters squared per coulomb seconds
Uo = meters squared per coulomb seconds
Uo/G = 18832.8 = Cs/Co
The quantum researchers have found an interaction greater than 10,000Co. Therefore the most likely solution for the top slight speed is 18832.8C.
    Since E = mCC, at the very high speed the equivalent mass of the photon would be very small.
    It is only a few weeks that I have concluded that the gravitational interaction is caused by a high light speed photon.
   The dual light speed universe is an integrated set of dimensions. They are tied together which makes it appear that Einstein is correct but it only appears that way. The lower dimension goes from 0 to Co and the upper dimension goes from 0 to Cs. 
   In the future we will be able to build mini black holes and produce Cs photons out of the protons. This will provide abundant clean energy with no radioactive waste material. At that time, the dual  light speed universe will become fully understood. The force within black holes produce the most Cs photons which fill the universe. They produce gravitational forces and also expand the universe. This should become understood within another hundred years.

   
 

[Kryptid]

That was quite a long way of saying that you don't have evidence that relativity is wrong. Having some kind of subconscious revelation that has not been backed up by observation or even a decent thought experiment isn't science.

[Bored chemist]

Bored Chemist asked “What hat did you get that from?

And I'm asking it again.
If you can't answer then you are, at best, not going to convince anyone.

[jerrygg38]

Kryptid said
That was quite a long way of saying that you don't have evidence that relativity is wrong. Having some kind of subconscious revelation that has not been backed up by observation or even a decent thought experiment isn't science.
GG:    I did not imply that relativity is wrong. It is the best possible mathematical fit for space time problems. Therefore for the dual light speed solution we can take the Doppler toward the front and the rear . Then if we take the geometric mean we get Einstein’s equations. So mathematically he has the best answers. I used to think the Doppler was the correct answer. I had no idea of the higher light speed until the scientists had found interactions at a distance of 10,000C.
   I have always relied upon my inner mind to solve problems or even take over my conscious mind during tests. It always got me 100%. It would always write down the solutions first and I had to work backwards to show some work. Often it would produce equations that no one had seen before.
   Unfortunately if I do not provide enough information to me, it cannot give me a perfect answer. Sometimes it would heal me physically such as when I was dying of double pneumonia. It was able to absorb healing light speed Cs energy and radiate me. This happened twice over the years.
  The led me to believe it had communicated with the collective consciousness in the Cs dimension. Yet I am not 100 percent convinced that this is true. It just may have the ability to control my body chemistry when necessary for survival.
   In any event I am not trying to convince you of the dual light speed solution. I am just putting my ideas into the collective consciousness so that some people will pick up the ideas. It will be others that are convinced and the proof of the pudding is the proton rocket engine which will enable us to achieve the moon in 2.5 hours and Mars in a little over 2 days with a constant acceleration of 1 G half way and a deceleration of 1 G for the rest of the way.
   Once the ideas are into the collective consciousness, progress will be made. So I did my job. Many will say I am wrong but eventually they will come to understand the fifth dimension.
Bored Chemist asked “What hat did you get that from?
And I'm asking it again.
If you can't answer then you are, at best, not going to convince anyone.
Not everyone for sure. It is only important that I convince myself. Once the ideas are out they will become part of our collective learning. Then some will look at it and in the future the proof will come. I have not fully understood my spiritual interactions. I continued to work on a single light speed solution to no avail. I did not realize that the light speed Co and Cs dimensions form a unity. The dimensions are not independent as I long ago believed.
   They interlock with each other. This causes Einstein’s work to be very mathematically accurate. The higher light speed dimension ties the universe together into a unity. And I have no ability to express it any better way. If you take a ball of energy and the light speed Co dimension would make it small and the Cs dimension would make it large, my Postulate 3 would specify the  true size is the geometric mean of both sizes. Since Einstein is the geometric mean of the Doppler, he is mathematically correct although physically he is wrong. For the double slit experiment, the electrons move in the light speed Co dimension and always switch to the light speed Cs dimension. When they travel in the Cs dimension, their time clocks stop and they do not see the slits. They can move a short distance or even a hundred miles depending upon probability. With two light speed dimensions it is easy to understand the difference between Einstein and Bohr.
   

[The Spoon]

I have not fully understood my spiritual interactions.

You do realise that this is a science site? Discussion of 'spiritual interactions' are consequently, deserved of short shrift.

[evan_au]

(Gravitons) travel at the speed of light (confirmed to an extraordinary degree of precision during the collision of two neutron stars).

What was confirmed? Our telescopes and measuring instruments operate by photons and electrons in the light speed Co dimension. So the high degree only shows us the interactions at the speed of light C.

It was observed that a pair of neutron stars collided, with an estimated distance of 130 million light-years away from Earth.
- It was initially detected by gravitational waves; that alone shows that gravitons have an enormous range

The last 100 seconds of the death spiral was observed with gravitational waves.
- 1.7 seconds after the collision ringdown, a gamma ray burst was observed by satellites (gamma rays are a high-energy form of light)
- given the direction, it is assumed that this was from the same event.
- If so, the gravitational waves and light waves arrived together: within 2 seconds out of 130 million years: an extraordinary level of precision for a single measurement!
- That was the basis for my claim that gravitational waves (made of gravitons) travel the same speed as light waves (in a vacuum)
- And hence that gravitons have an infinite range

I agree that our telescopes operate by photons, which is why a long-distance race between photons and gravitons produces compelling evidence that it was effectively a dead heat: gravitons travel at the same speed as light.

Now if you say that there is another kind of light that travels faster than light (only we can't detect it), then I wasn't comparing the speed of gravity to this unknown and undetectable form of light.
- I was only claiming that gravitons travel at the same speed as light = C
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GW170817

[Kryptid]

I did not imply that relativity is wrong.

You did when you said:

Yet physically it is false.

[jerrygg38]

RTC said:
Hence if the gravitational fields of two separate bodies of matter lie outside of their joint gravitational field reach, then they will not experience any gravitational attraction together.
 GG replied:  Your statement is basically true.  Newton’s formula is basically true as well. The gravitational attraction upon any body is the gravitational constant times the mass of a body times the mass of all the other bodies divided by the inverse square of the distance between them.
F = G Ma Mb/ RR
   The distance from a far star is so large that the force produced by the star is basically zero.  MY gravitons are high light speed photons. There are huge numbers of them hitting all masses from all directions. That puts a crushing force on everything. This is the driving force of gravity. However there is another important part. A body such as the earth is vibrating between the light speed Co dimension and the light speed Cs dimension. However there is a spectrum of waves so the vibration is very complex.
   The Earth is vibrating and the sun is vibrating.. These complex waves produce a combined wave between the sun and the earth. So the force of gravity has a particle physics type component and a wave component. The gravitons will push the earth toward the sun but the waves will determine the orbit.
   When we go far away from the Earth and the  Sun, you do not see a component of the force as per Newton. All you see is the Gravitons flying all around and you do not see the combined wave patterns between the Earth and the Far star. They are gone. Therefore Newton’s equation is a first order approximation to the gravitational force.

[jerrygg38]

Kryptid said
It was observed that a pair of neutron stars collided, with an estimated distance of 130 million light-years away from Earth.
- It was initially detected by gravitational waves; that alone shows that gravitons have an enormous range
GG replied: OK
Kryptid said
The last 100 seconds of the death spiral was observed with gravitational waves.
- 1.7 seconds after the collision ringdown, a gamma ray burst was observed by satellites (gamma rays are a high-energy form of light)
- given the direction, it is assumed that this was from the same event.
GG replied: seems reasonable
Kryptid said:
- If so, the gravitational waves and light waves arrived together: within 2 seconds out of 130 million years: an extraordinary level of precision for a single measurement!
GG replied : sounds good
- That was the basis for my claim that gravitational waves (made of gravitons) travel the same speed as light waves (in a vacuum)
- And hence that gravitons have an infinite range
GG replied: The question is what are you seeing? The neutron stars radiate a lot of gravitons. They collide and radiate a lot more. The gravitons are in the light speed Cs dimension. Space is filled with dot-waves of low mass. The gravitons hit the light speed Co dot waves. This causes the space around the neutron stars to become compacted. The compacted wave can only travel at light speed Co.
   The reaction you measure is at light speed Co which is our light speed C. Most of the gravitons moving at light speed Cs are gone. Space is still filled with the gravitons but we have no ability to measure them.
   Some of the gravitons took only 130,000,000 / 18833 = 6903 years to get here. Most of the energy of the burst was used up in the compression of space between the stars and the Earth. Thus the wave we see is the reaction of our light speed Co dimension to the light speed Cs burst of energy.
Kryptid said
I agree that our telescopes operate by photons, which is why a long-distance race between photons and gravitons produces compelling evidence that it was effectively a dead heat: gravitons travel at the same speed as light.
Now if you say that there is another kind of light that travels faster than light (only we can't detect it), then I wasn't comparing the speed of gravity to this unknown and undetectable form of light.
- I was only claiming that gravitons travel at the same speed as light = C
GG replied: Thanks for the information. What I call the gravitons is the high speed photons which is the driving force of gravity. However it is only in the last two weeks that I called them gravitons.  My light speed Co dot-waves within space itself is the very important component of the gravitational wave. This is what we observe. And it is these particle/waves which are being hit by my gravitons.
   The particle/waves oscillate between the light speed Co dimension and the light speed Cs dimension. This acts as an interface between the dimensions since the light speed Cs photons need something in their dimension to interact with. Then the high light speed graviton has a lower light speed particle wave to work with. What you see is a particle/wave which will operate at a speed close to light speed Co.

[Kryptid]

Kryptid said

No I didn't. Make sure you are quoting the right person.

[jerrygg38]

GG: Did Einstein have evidence in   1905.
Kryptoid: Two things to say about that:
(1) Einstein had evidence (for at least some of his ideas) in the form of thought experiments and equations that followed logically from known physics. You do not. There is no thought experiment based on known physics pointing to the existence of a second light speed. Quantum entanglement does not count because it cannot transmit information (whereas a light beam can).
(2) Relativity was not widely accepted in 1905. It was only after experimental support was acquired that it was.
GG: Most of my equations come from known physics. This produces a lot of sister solutions for the electrical model of the universe. After years of looking at all the solutions I chose the Sister One solution. This provides me with electrical type equations which I match to the astronomical data.
   I have my conscious mind and my unconscious mind as per the understanding of Carl Jung. My unconscious mind works on the information I provide to it verses my conscious mind. It then produces dreams with solutions in them. Sometimes when I bring my hypo-manic mind to a high level of energy, I am able to communicate between the two sections of my brain.
   So I finish a solution and the information is studied and unfortunately there is a conflict. My unconscious mind has always solved the most difficult engineering problems. Some people thought I used witchcraft to produce the solutions to difficult problems without knowing the steps. My unconscious mind just gives me solutions. It thinks differently than me. Whole bodied thinking.
   So for years I worked on a single light speed solution to no avail. My work never produced results than my unconscious brain could accept. Just recently it praised my latest effort.
   In the past it had shown me images of coexisting objects of higher light speed energy. Yet I did not understand that the higher light speed dimension is tied in a unity so that Einstein would have the correct answers although time is not a dimension. In 1981 I fought to be left alone from the conflict within me. So it has been a battle between my conscious mind and my unconscious mind.
   Quote from: jerrygg38 on Yesterday at 22:39:29
GG: It was many years later when others proved what he said were true.



Kryptoid: Science isn't about proof, it's about evidence. Long-held theories supported by old evidence can still be overturned by the acquisition of new evidence that is incompatible with them.
GG: That may be good for scientists. As an Engineer I build things that work. Most often no one cares how they work. Problems occur in complex systems and they need to be fixed. So they call me in and I fix them but often I cannot tell them why. Or they say I use witch craft. (The religious people do).
Quote from: jerrygg38 on Yesterday at 22:39:29
GG: I have explanations and equations.
Kryptoid: That lack support.
GG: That is true. Most things today were built by engineers. Scientists came later.
Quote from: jerrygg38 on Yesterday at 22:39:29
GG: In the future others will provide the evidence of what I say to be true.
Kryptoid: How do you know that? Is your model even falsifiable? Can you think of a potential experiment that would be able to turn up a negative result if your model is wrong?
GG: When they are able to build the proton thruster engine which readily turns protons into photons of light speed Co and light speed Cs energy, then what I say will be proven. It may take another 100 or 200 years but my unconscious mind has been able to communicate with the collective consciousness. This collective entity knows that these spaceships exist. Perhaps someday they will land upon the Earth and provide the engine to us.