[Origin]

I get my information from my unconscious mind as per Carl Jung’s definition of the human mind.

I get my information from my conscious mind.  My data is from experiments, observations and measurements.

What I am discussing is called science.

What you are discussing is called fantasy or delusion.

Why are you here?  You do know this is a site to discuss science, not your silly fantasies.  At least I know for sure that it is useless to have a logical discussion with you...

Does this site have an 'ignore' feature?

[Kryptid]

Vb* = expansion rate of Bohr orbit from near zero to present

Again, this is not an equation explaining how you arrived at the value for Vb*.

[Bored chemist]

K = 8.98756E9

What units?

[jerrygg38 (OP)]

Origin says: I get my information from my conscious mind.  My data is from experiments, observations and measurements.
GG: Yes that is experimental physics. Do you know that there are physicists who only deal with theoretical physics and they study a wide variety of ideas. These people appreciate my books. They need new ideas to study. You prefer things that are more concrete to you. And in this group of forums, some only will look at tried and true ideas. So you should stay in those forums. Here people express many new ideas some of which make no sense whatsoever.

[jerrygg38 (OP)]

Bored Chemist asks:
What units? (for K)
K can be expressed in many different units.
I use the permittivity eo = Coulomb Seconds cubed /meters^4
For standard units you can use
Volts = K Q/ r the voltage is the constant K time the charge Q over the distance R.
Thus K = Volt meters/ coulomb, likewise it can be expressed many other ways for the standard physics system.

[jerrygg38 (OP)]

Origin says
So basically you pick a Vb based on nothing to give the answer that you want.  That ain't science my good fellow, that is little more than numerology.
GG: Yes I study numbers and the constants of the universe looking for a set of number that is common to all that I study. My methods are to solve the problem and try to find the steps to prove the results. In general I solve the problems. For example on one physics test the professor added a question for extra credit that would take a huge amount of time and no one every found a simple formula to solve it. It was done by trial and error and the answer was known but it took quite a long time for mathematicians to do the work. The day of the test I was rather sick I could not think so I cheated. I turned on my unconscious mind and I blanked out during the test.
   The professor was shocked that in a few minutes I came up with a formula and calculated the exact answer. I do not know. I just was not there during the test. So my methods are different for sure. My situation is strange and freaky. Sometimes I am taken over and have no ability to function independently from whatever controls me. So I am just forced into obedience and I always wished to be free of the power which controls me.

[Kryptid]

I turned on my unconscious mind and I blanked out during the test.

How about we put that unconscious mind of yours to the test? Can it come up with a formula for, say, predicting the half-life of any isotope based on the number of protons and neutrons in it?

[jerrygg38 (OP)]

Kryptid said
Again, this is not an equation explaining how you arrived at the value for Vb*.
GG: I showed the total equation and then the final solution from plugging in the numbers into the equations. So I am not sure what you want. Perhaps you want the words to explain how I produced the mechanical and electrical force equations. On the left side is standard physics for the force between to hydrogen atoms. On the right side is the force between the magnetic field of atom one due to the motion of the electron in the Bohr orbit. This is a complicated motion that spins all around the atom.  In addition there is a magnetic field produced by the loss of charge of the electron in atoms 2 as the atom expands. This too has a complex motion. Then we have  the effect of atom 2 on atom one. Now the only thing missing is the phase angle between these two magnetic fields. They are really AC type fields so we need a phase angle. The most likely phase angle is 30 degrees. The net result is an electrical equivalent to the gravitational attraction.
   The question is what is the actual scientific solution? I have an engineering model solution. The actual solution involves very complex dual dimensional math. That is beyond my ability. You have a loss of charge flowing from the Co dimension to the Cs dimension. That expands the atoms. At the same time you have Co/Cs oscillations extending from the first atom and the same is true from the second atom.  Then you get complex wave equations. I prefer the engineering models which are easier for me to understand.

[Kryptid]

So I am not sure what you want.

I want to know how you arrived at a value of 1.21667E-28 meters per second for Vb*. You are not showing me that. You keep giving me the run-around instead by referring to an equation that Vb* is already a part of.

[jerrygg38 (OP)]

Naked 2.7.20 9AM
Kryptoid said
I want to know how you arrived at a value of 1.21667E-28 meters per second for Vb*. You are not showing me that. You keep giving me the run-around instead by referring to an equation that Vb* is already a part of.
GG: I am having a hard time understanding what you are saying. How I wrote the equation was from an electrical analogy of a magnetic attraction between the field produced by an electron spinning around the proton and the expansion field of an opposite electron in another atom. That is just a model I used for the calculation. It gives me an answer in the ballpark of what the astronomer’s got.
   In my “Doppler Space Time” copyright 2000 book which was sold by Quality Books I did not use the cosine 30 degrees and I got 15.75 billion years. At that time I did not have a home computer and I typed my book and sent it to the printer for 1000 copies which cost me $6000. My first four books cost me $24,000 and I made no profit. Nowadays on Amazon a book cost me basically nothing.
   In any event Doppler sold good but my biggest income was from the tax breaks on my regular salary as an engineer.
   The question is what does the equation mean? The force of gravity is due to interactions between the Co dimension and the Cs dimension. Currents flow from the hydrogen atom into the Cs dimension. As it does the hydrogen atom expands. Thus there is a current flow.  It is a DC flow which has an AC waveshape. So this becomes an electrical analogy for the very complex inter-dimensional reaction.
  As for the calculation the equation becomes
Vb* = G Mh Mh / 2 Uo(QC/137.036) (4 pi Q)Cos 30
G = 6.67260E-11, Mh = 1.67353E-27,  Uo = 1.25664E-6, C= 2.99792E8, Q= 1.60218E-19
Solving for Vb* (repeating the calculation)
Vb* = 1.21667E-28 meters per second. (I got the same answer today as in my revised Doppler equation.
   Anyway hopefully I have answered your question.
   When I worked for Con Edison it took some people a week to calculate a complex electrical distribution system which was tied together by many sources two of which could go out. Then they had to calculate Y-Delta current flows. They also used an analog type computer which took almost as long to set up. But I saw an electrical analogy similar to a Thevenin type equivalent so that I could do the job in less than four hours. In a similar manner my hydrogen calculation is an analogy.
   And the work of Newton is an analogy as well. He produces simple equations to explain how the universe works. For some strange reason our very complex universe operates upon some very simple equations.
   In my design of the Aegis system, I did the electronics but the programmers used 1000 simultaneous equations to define the motion of the shells for the 5 inch guns. Newton’s original equations were but in the end simple you had to account for the rotation of the Earth, the humidity, the speed of the wind and the direction of the wind and many other factors and you had to do this real time.

[jerrygg38 (OP)]

Kryptid asks:
How about we put that unconscious mind of yours to the test? Can it come up with a formula for, say, predicting the half-life of any isotope based on the number of protons and neutrons in it?
GG: Thankfully my unconscious mind is relatively quiet. From Childhood till 1970 it would speak at various times. Then I tried to end all conversations. In 1981 a big battle occurred and I fought it as best I could. Occasionally I would ask for help and it would return. At my age it is very difficult to stir up my hypomanic mind to bring me into contact with my inner being. It pushes me on the edge of insanity. When I was a child it was a gift I relied upon. Later this ability was more of a curse than a gift. Yet I survived. Perhaps I should have taken medicine to calm my brain but then this gift/curse would have been damaged.

[Bored chemist]

Uo = 1.25664E-6

G = 6.67260E-11

G(units) = Uo(units)

Setting that aside, are you sure you used the right numbers?
You have chosen to make it difficult for us to tell and you have failed to say what the numbers are.

[Kryptid]

Vb* = G Mh Mh / 2 Uo(QC/137.036) (4 pi Q)Cos 30
G = 6.67260E-11, Mh = 1.67353E-27,  Uo = 1.25664E-6, C= 2.99792E8, Q= 1.60218E-19

Thank you. I want to check the math, but this is a little complicated. Maybe I'll do it later. Anyway, you should put the proper units for your equation in there. This is what they should be:

G (gravitational constant) = 6.674 x 10^-11 m³kg^-1s^-2
M_h (mass of hydrogen atom) = 1.6735575 x 10^-27 kg
μ₀ (permeability of free space) = 1.256637 x 10^-6 H/m
c (speed of light) = 299,792,458 m/s
q_e (electron charge) = 1.602177 x 10^-19 C

GG: Thankfully my unconscious mind is relatively quiet. From Childhood till 1970 it would speak at various times. Then I tried to end all conversations. In 1981 a big battle occurred and I fought it as best I could. Occasionally I would ask for help and it would return. At my age it is very difficult to stir up my hypomanic mind to bring me into contact with my inner being. It pushes me on the edge of insanity. When I was a child it was a gift I relied upon. Later this ability was more of a curse than a gift. Yet I survived. Perhaps I should have taken medicine to calm my brain but then this gift/curse would have been damaged.

It seems a little convenient that the only evidence you had in favor of your idea being correct is now untestable.

[jerrygg38 (OP)]

Kryptid says
It seems a little convenient that the only evidence you had in favor of your idea being correct is now untestable.
GG: It is my effort to bring my solutions to the minds of those scientists and mathematicians who will find them worthwhile to study. So I email a lot of professors and some of them ask for an autographed copy of my book. One years later won a Nobel prize. In general I have never good enough words to explain my work. And I am still studying new information from the scientists that I get on the internet. Since I believe in the Fifth dimension, my work goes into collective memory and in the future my ideas will flow into the minds of those who will appreciate them. In any event I like being a handyman and fixing houses and appliances. I like to pain. And I like to study the universe. It is a hobby. I was lucky to have interesting engineering jobs since 17.5 years till 55 years of age. I did a lot of fun things. Climbed on the Verozenno Bridge while they were building it. It was very scary because below the thin side rail was only water below. And I am afraid of heights but I did it. We went places where sometimes the police would pull their guns on us. Fortunately they were not trigger happy. I tested waterproof equipment by buying a kiddie pool and jumping in with a bathing suit at Sperry. A lot of fun.

[Bored chemist]

I use the permittivity eo = Coulomb Seconds cubed /meters^4

The accepted unit (in which the value is usually quoted) is Farad per meter.
Please show that the unit you chose is equivalent (with a value of K = 8.98756E9)

[Bored chemist]

I like to pain.

I'm just leaving that one there.

[jerrygg38 (OP)]

Bored Chemist asked:
Setting that aside, are you sure you used the right numbers?
You have chosen to make it difficult for us to tell and you have failed to say what the numbers are.
GG: Sperry Gyro was like an ivory tower with lots of physicists and engineers and mathematicians with little to do some of the time. So I was able to get several of them to proof read my Doppler Space time of year 2000. Therefore my original work was checked for accuracy by some very bright people. This insured that my calculations were quite correct mathematically.

[Bored chemist]

Sperry Gyro was

Nobody cares.
Answer the questions.

[jerrygg38 (OP)]

Bored says
Answer the questions.
GG: I thought that I did. Perhaps you should be more specific in your questions.

[jerrygg38 (OP)]

Bored Chemist says
The accepted unit (in which the value is usually quoted) is Farad per meter.
Please show that the unit you chose is equivalent (with a value of K = 8.98756E9)
GG: I work with my units or no units at all. Since you recognize the constant by the number, you can use your units and see that they match. In any event to go to the old units is a step backwards for me.