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Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?

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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #20 on: 17/08/2020 23:08:50 »
Quote from: self on 17/08/2020 17:01:20
consciousness.

The definitive sign of bullshit.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #21 on: 19/08/2020 15:01:37 »
Hello confused and doubtful. I will just cut to the chase, what ever that means.  A drain is where things go and don't come back. Cellular drains drain by way of quantum fields known as caged electrons which are velocity gradients.

There is a way to test this theory which says the caged electrons are our quantum field of mind. Origin of Consciousness. The theory is that these quantum fields contain our self who is a value operator. The field of mind thinks by emitting photons and the self values the emission. It's actually much more complicated, perhaps some other time when you understand the basics.

According to the theory the self has a natural polar negative orientation within the field but since the top of the drain and the bottom of the drain are of equal strength polar opposites the self is also entitled to the polar positive orientation when available.

The brain reproduces what orientation is happening in the drains. Positive ion flow in the brain is completely natural but very limited. If the brain or brain body system were do be introduced to a positive ion charge, cloud, strong enough to flood the brain's drains with a positive ion charge, the self would be forced into the polar positive orientation. The positive orientation is where one experiences the afterlife and other NDE type experiences.

I read about a Captain in the Air force who was producing positive ion clouds from buckets of gator aid so it cannot be beyond our technology to control the strength of the production and match it up with the capacity of the 10x17th caged electrons.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #22 on: 19/08/2020 17:53:58 »
Quote from: self on 19/08/2020 15:01:37
Hello confused and doubtful. I will just cut to the chase, what ever that means.  A drain is where things go and don't come back. Cellular drains drain by way of quantum fields known as caged electrons which are velocity gradients.

There is a way to test this theory which says the caged electrons are our quantum field of mind. Origin of Consciousness. The theory is that these quantum fields contain our self who is a value operator. The field of mind thinks by emitting photons and the self values the emission. It's actually much more complicated, perhaps some other time when you understand the basics.

According to the theory the self has a natural polar negative orientation within the field but since the top of the drain and the bottom of the drain are of equal strength polar opposites the self is also entitled to the polar positive orientation when available.

The brain reproduces what orientation is happening in the drains. Positive ion flow in the brain is completely natural but very limited. If the brain or brain body system were do be introduced to a positive ion charge, cloud, strong enough to flood the brain's drains with a positive ion charge, the self would be forced into the polar positive orientation. The positive orientation is where one experiences the afterlife and other NDE type experiences.

I read about a Captain in the Air force who was producing positive ion clouds from buckets of gator aid so it cannot be beyond our technology to control the strength of the production and match it up with the capacity of the 10x17th caged electrons.

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Now go through that and look at all the phrases like "cellular drains" and explain, in clear language, what they mean and what the actual evidence is for their existence.

Take your time.
We will wait.

But don't bother to post any more until you have done it. You would be wasting everyone's time.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #23 on: 19/08/2020 17:58:15 »
Quote from: self on 19/08/2020 15:01:37
A drain is where things go and don't come back.
But getting rid of an idiot on a web forum is like trying to flush a spider down the bath plughole. They cling on to something and keep coming back. The difference is that spiders are useful and intelligent.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #24 on: 19/08/2020 20:15:37 »
Hi all you wise posters. I must say that I hope someday you realize how wrong you all are. I have done this experiment and have visited the after life many times. That is why I know so much about how it works

Small minds talks about other people. If you have an intelligent question feel free to ask it.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #25 on: 19/08/2020 20:38:28 »
Quote from: self on 19/08/2020 20:15:37
If you have an intelligent question feel free to ask it.
What do all the made-up phrases mean?
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #26 on: 19/08/2020 20:42:15 »
Please pick one phrase out that you believe is made up and ask about it in particular.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #27 on: 19/08/2020 20:47:26 »
Quote from: self on 29/02/2020 13:35:32
super fluid drains
is meaningless in the context of brains
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #28 on: 19/08/2020 21:49:06 »
Do you know of anyone who is claiming super fluids in the brain? Not me. I have repeatedly said that the super fluids are not in the brain. I cannot help people who cannot understand that the drain is not part of the brain. The super fluid forms after the molecules are done with the material making up the super fluid.

The opposing electromagnetic fields on either side of the cavity drive the super fluid. Without the brain there would be no super fluid but one is not officially part of the other.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #29 on: 19/08/2020 21:57:59 »
Quote from: self on 19/08/2020 21:49:06
I have repeatedly said that the super fluids are not in the brain.

Where are these superfluids at, then?

Quote from: self on 19/08/2020 21:49:06
The super fluid forms after the molecules are done with the material making up the super fluid.

What molecules? From where?
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #30 on: 20/08/2020 13:17:11 »
The caged electron is a super fluid. There are about 100000000000000000 of them located inside the skull but outside the brain. They form in the Dimer cavity and the Dimer form into micro tubules. The micro tubules are the brain mind interface.

The micro tubules replicate the behavior of the caged electrons.

If you do not believe this then feel free to explain to me what a caged electron is, why a caged electron is, what form a caged electron takes and how the the electron got in the cage. I have answered all these questions.

To help you understand that the caged electron is not part of the brain it is because what goes in the cage does not come out and interact with the brain anymore. The cage dissipates the quantum into the vacuum of spacetime by accelerating them until they break free from the caged electron.

Why that is so hard to understand is beyond me. The brain powers the super fluid but is not part of the super fluid.

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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #31 on: 20/08/2020 14:17:05 »
Quote from: self on 19/08/2020 21:49:06
Do you know of anyone who is claiming super fluids in the brain? Not me. I have repeatedly said that the super fluids are not in the brain.
What I said was that the phrase "super fluid drains" was meaningless in the concept of brains.

I didn't say where the drains or the fluids were.
Quote from: self on 20/08/2020 13:17:11
The caged electron is a super fluid
No, it is not.
For example...
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jpclett.9b02934


Anyway, you asked me to say what particular phrase which you used, I wanted an explanation for.
I gave one
"Super fluid drains"
And you got all shouty about something irrelevant about who had said what, because you didn't understand what I said.
OK, I realise you have difficulty with understanding things.

Now, answer the question.
What does "super fluid drains" mean?
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #32 on: 21/08/2020 12:26:40 »
I make no promises that you will understand but I am willing to try again.

Super fluid drain that I refer to is located in the Dimer cavity in the micro tubule in the neuron. The drain is known to science as a caged electron. The caged electron is a Hilbert space being located on a path of dissipation called pi. Hilbert spaces have an imaginary component. The self is able to imagine because the photons emitted with same spin have a separate future than the future of the self located in the mind field which is the caged electron.

The Dimer molecules bond by sharing the electron cloud constituents from one molecule to the other. After bonding the receiving molecules does not want or need or accept the linear curving wave of electron cloud constituents that it received from the opposing molecule.

The linear curving wave of electron cloud constituents, which are oblong and bi polar begin to enter the cavity on the path of dissipation, a inward curve which eventually circles around thousands of times to form a tornado.

The tornado as well as the bonding is driven by the magnetic moment of the receiving molecule which allows the linear curving wave, think garden hose, to enter the cavity one link at a time. The electron cloud flow from the molecules on either side of the cavity is what drives the super fluid to rotate in the cavity with resistance to flow.

Nothing but information can escape this cavity so the brain cannot use the electron cloud in the cavity to further brain activity.

The tornado can emit photons three ways. It can spontaneously emit or emit when one or both of the Dimer molecules get excited. If all three are excited the caged electron can super radiate. The super radiated photons have a spin counter to the spin of the caged electron but the other two types of emission have spin the same as the caged electron.

So these are super fluids which drain the excess electron cloud which is being continually depleted from the Dimer molecule. The virtual components of the electron cloud dissipate when hurled free from the spinning tornado. This involves three additional vortex embedded in walls of the caged electron. There is a total of four vortex in the cavity.

I do not care to explain any more to you unless you show some ability to understand. I have better ways to spend my time than repeating facts over and over to persons who appear to have no capacity to learn.

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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #33 on: 21/08/2020 13:58:03 »
Please explain
Quote from: self on 29/02/2020 13:35:32
velocity gradient in the lowest portion of the brain's energy field.
to someone who knows what each word means, but (as Eric Morecambe said to Andre Previn) not in that order. I will then be able to match this with my studies of hermeneutic quantisation in the subclavian cortex, and possibly agree with your hypotheisis. 
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #34 on: 21/08/2020 14:25:06 »
Quote from: self on 21/08/2020 12:26:40
The drain is known to science as a caged electron.
Known to whom as a caged electron?
I ask because science uses that phrase (with disappointingly little originality) for electrons that are caged.
Things like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-center
And that doesn't tally with what you are using it to mean.
Quote from: self on 21/08/2020 12:26:40
The caged electron is a Hilbert space


Your problem seems to be that you are unable to explain any of your made up phrases except in terms of other made up phrases.

I'm afraid I'm reminded of a woman I saw on a documentary who was asked to explain why she had done something (I forget what the thing was, but it was odd behaviour. I have a vague idea that it was something about putting all her furniture outside in the garden).
Her response was "Because the angels were flighty".
That didn't really explain anything, but she thought that it was a valid explanation. She didn't seem to understand why others didn't see it that way.

The documentary was about schizophrenia and the woman was a patient.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #35 on: 21/08/2020 15:13:25 »
Stuart Hameroff personally told me that "caged electrons" super radiate and both of us know which caged electrons we were talking about.

Roger Penrose has a twistor theory which calls for Four Momentum particles that are Hilbert spaces. The caged electron fulfills Penrose's requirements.

Hilbert spaces are considered to be mathematical spaces and have not yet been discovered but that will eventually change.

Like I said in a previous post, this theory is testable should anyone want to visit and see for themselves. I have.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #36 on: 21/08/2020 15:22:09 »
Quote from: self on 21/08/2020 15:13:25
Stuart Hameroff personally told me that "caged electrons" super radiate and both of us know which caged electrons we were talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Hameroff#Criticism

I built a laser in which the  medium was superradiant, so I actually personally know what it means without needing to namedrop quacks.


Quote from: self on 21/08/2020 15:13:25
Hilbert spaces ... have not yet been discovered
Quote from: self on 21/08/2020 12:26:40
The caged electron is a Hilbert space
In principle, on of those might be correct, but not both.
In practice I suspect one is wrong to the point of absurdity.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #37 on: 22/08/2020 14:25:10 »
Thank you all for your interest in good science.  Self.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #38 on: 22/08/2020 15:12:26 »
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Thank you all for your interest in good science.  Self.
Thanks.
You should try it. It's much more rewarding that trying to support bad science.
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Re: Does this experiment tell us something about our brain and consciousness?
« Reply #39 on: 24/08/2020 13:03:19 »
The living state is dependent on both the hydrogen proton as well as electrons. Water, which is the dominant material within life, is not a great conductor of electron based electricity. The oxygen atoms of water are highly electronegative and hold the electrons tightly. The hydrogen proton, on the other hand, is more mobile and is the main conductor within water and life. Electrons will follow the hydrogen proton currents.

What is unique about hydrogen proton currents is this type of electricity has mass and inertia. The proton weigh over a thousand times more than an electron. Therefore the currents are slower yet more persistent due to the inertia. This is useful for sensory systems, since consciousness would have a hard time keeping up with nothing but faster electron currents and impulses. The proton currents slow things down, so we can become more aware.

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