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It's a ramshackle collection of historical fact swimming in myth and magic, with a few good ideas for survival in a desert (Leviticus) and an urban society (Mark). A sound basis for workers' rights ("six days shalt thou labor…" "the laborer is worthy of his hire....") and some general commandments that underpin most criminal and civil law. But it doesn't provide any excuse for tithes, pogroms, crusades, inquisitions, self-flagellation, paedophilia, shunning, pilgrimage...… or any evidence for the supernatural or an afterlife, and the reification of the adjectives "good" and "evil" is an insult to the human intellect.
im by no means a scientist or even highly educated. but the last 20 odd years (since the internet) it always seems to be my hobby to learn about all things science. if i could have my life over i would have studied hard and tried to become some kind of braniac.so in all my reading about all kinds of subjects there is always the same common underlying theme that is there if you decide to see it. that the religions of the world are just wrong.there is so much scientific and mathematical evidence against the bible that it is just staggering that any educated (scientific) person accepts it. for a laymen i get it. the whole 'feel good' or 'someone watching down upon us' is a very sobering thought. and if you dont know any better than why not believe it. (that used to be me) but anyone that bothers to invest the time to learn about the world around us and learns a bit from each field of science(and maths) can easily see that the bible just simply does not correspond with what we observe in the world. (this is inherently different to the concept of a creator though)so, given all the knowledge that man has now, why do people still consider the bible as 'more' than a story book
Quote from: jfoldbar on 01/04/2020 08:45:34im by no means a scientist or even highly educated. but the last 20 odd years (since the internet) it always seems to be my hobby to learn about all things science. if i could have my life over i would have studied hard and tried to become some kind of braniac.so in all my reading about all kinds of subjects there is always the same common underlying theme that is there if you decide to see it. that the religions of the world are just wrong.there is so much scientific and mathematical evidence against the bible that it is just staggering that any educated (scientific) person accepts it. for a laymen i get it. the whole 'feel good' or 'someone watching down upon us' is a very sobering thought. and if you dont know any better than why not believe it. (that used to be me) but anyone that bothers to invest the time to learn about the world around us and learns a bit from each field of science(and maths) can easily see that the bible just simply does not correspond with what we observe in the world. (this is inherently different to the concept of a creator though)so, given all the knowledge that man has now, why do people still consider the bible as 'more' than a story bookYou've listed a number of objections. Would you mind getting specific? Francis Collins, B.S. chemistry University of Virginia 1970, Ph.D. physical chemistry, Yale University 1974. Led the National Institutes of Health for President Barack Obama. He headed the successful drive to sequence the human genome. As director of the NIH, he oversaw 27 institutes with an annual budget of more than $30 billion.As the director of the National Human Genome Research Institute since 1993 — what some call the most prestigious job in science — Collins has led the effort to decode human DNA, along the way developing a revolutionary method of screening genes for disease. Yet according to this widely respected scientist, the newfound power to "read our own instruction book" is no obstacle to faith in the existence of God. He converted from atheism to Christianity in his twenties after seeing how radically his patients' faith transformed their experience of suffering, and after reading several works by C.S. Lewis. Some 30 years later, he stands by his convictions, positioning science not as substitute for theology, but as a subset of it. Here, Collins traces out his personal path to God, and explains how his faith affects his work. Read his book, The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief
"Do you think he believes it was made 6000 years ago, or do you think he believes in science?"people dont 'believe' in science. they understand it. there is no 'belief'. it just is.
Quote from: duffyd on 02/04/2020 06:13:38Quote from: jfoldbar on 01/04/2020 08:45:34im by no means a scientist or even highly educated. but the last 20 odd years (since the internet) it always seems to be my hobby to learn about all things science. if i could have my life over i would have studied hard and tried to become some kind of braniac.so in all my reading about all kinds of subjects there is always the same common underlying theme that is there if you decide to see it. that the religions of the world are just wrong.there is so much scientific and mathematical evidence against the bible that it is just staggering that any educated (scientific) person accepts it. for a laymen i get it. the whole 'feel good' or 'someone watching down upon us' is a very sobering thought. and if you dont know any better than why not believe it. (that used to be me) but anyone that bothers to invest the time to learn about the world around us and learns a bit from each field of science(and maths) can easily see that the bible just simply does not correspond with what we observe in the world. (this is inherently different to the concept of a creator though)so, given all the knowledge that man has now, why do people still consider the bible as 'more' than a story bookYou've listed a number of objections. Would you mind getting specific? Francis Collins, B.S. chemistry University of Virginia 1970, Ph.D. physical chemistry, Yale University 1974. Led the National Institutes of Health for President Barack Obama. He headed the successful drive to sequence the human genome. As director of the NIH, he oversaw 27 institutes with an annual budget of more than $30 billion.As the director of the National Human Genome Research Institute since 1993 — what some call the most prestigious job in science — Collins has led the effort to decode human DNA, along the way developing a revolutionary method of screening genes for disease. Yet according to this widely respected scientist, the newfound power to "read our own instruction book" is no obstacle to faith in the existence of God. He converted from atheism to Christianity in his twenties after seeing how radically his patients' faith transformed their experience of suffering, and after reading several works by C.S. Lewis. Some 30 years later, he stands by his convictions, positioning science not as substitute for theology, but as a subset of it. Here, Collins traces out his personal path to God, and explains how his faith affects his work. Read his book, The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief Interesting.Obviously I haven't met him. If I did, I'd probably be more interested in his work than his beliefs, but maybe, if there was a lull in conversation I'd ask what he actually thinks about the origin of the world.Do you think he believes it was made 6000 years ago, or do you think he believes in science?I guess there's some interesting information there "Francis Collins, B.S. chemistry University of Virginia 1970,"So, born about 1950, and now about 70 years old."why do people still consider the bible as 'more' than a story book?"Force of habit, maybe?
John's gospel is a fantastic read.
So is the Lord of The Rings, but I'd not base my life on it.
That is what is so cool about GOD. He can be known!