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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #20 on: 02/04/2020 21:15:29 »
Quote from: duffyd on 02/04/2020 21:02:35
BTW, does entanglement disprove C is the fastest anything can go?

It's more correct to say that c is as fast as information can go. Quantum entanglement doesn't transfer information.
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #21 on: 02/04/2020 22:02:33 »
If the scientist were on the pavement as they were lowering a piano and it fell ... just as an old guy on a mobility scooter knocked them off the pavement ... into the path of an oncoming bus ... which stopped to pick up passengers ... just in time ... he would think how lucky for me that all that happened ... it must be a ... coincidence.
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #22 on: 02/04/2020 22:06:23 »
And God said. "Happy is the man who believes in the holy scooter and the halting bus. For he shall enjoy the pleasures of public transport".
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #23 on: 02/04/2020 22:08:14 »
Please feel free to translate the above into Latin to get the full ambience.
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #24 on: 02/04/2020 22:29:50 »
Dr. Stephen Smith reported that this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic. He pointed out that not a single COVID-19 patient of his that has been on the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin regimen for five days or more has had to be intubated. The odds that that is a coincidence are off the charts
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #25 on: 02/04/2020 22:45:57 »
In 80 in-patients receiving a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, the team found a clinical improvement in all but one 86 year-old patient who died, and one 74-year old patient still in intensive care unit. The team also found that, by administering hydroxychloroquine combined with azithromycin, they were able to observe an improvement in all cases, except in one patient who arrived with an advanced form, who was over the age of 86, and in whom the evolution was irreversible, according to a new paper published today in IHU Méditerranée Infection.
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #26 on: 02/04/2020 23:05:33 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 02/04/2020 22:08:14
Please feel free to translate the above into Latin to get the full ambience.
Good one. Funny.
I know how it looks. I had no faith for a long time. Wasn't interested, didn't care and thought the whole religious thing was junk and not worth my time. Jesus was Santa, nothing more; an imaginary boob who most likely never  lived but, if he had lived, he was long gone. The story concocted about him was a ruse, an effort to control others for power.
Then, I started reading things like, “My teaching is not my own. It comes from the one who sent me. 17 Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own. 18 Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain personal glory, but he who seeks the glory of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him. 19 Has not Moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps the law. Why are you trying to kill me?”

20 “You are demon-possessed,” the crowd answered. “Who is trying to kill you?”

21 Jesus said to them, “I did one miracle, and you are all amazed. 22 Yet, because Moses gave you circumcision (though actually it did not come from Moses, but from the patriarchs), you circumcise a boy on the Sabbath. 23 Now if a boy can be circumcised on the Sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken, why are you angry with me for healing a man’s whole body on the Sabbath? 24 Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.”


25 At that point some of the people of Jerusalem began to ask, “Isn’t this the man they are trying to kill? 26 Here he is, speaking publicly, and they are not saying a word to him. Have the authorities really concluded that he is the Messiah? 27 But we know where this man is from; when the Messiah comes, no one will know where he is from.”

28 Then Jesus, still teaching in the temple courts, cried out, “Yes, you know me, and you know where I am from. I am not here on my own authority, but he who sent me is true. You do not know him, 29 but I know him because I am from him and he sent me.”

30 At this they tried to seize him, but no one laid a hand on him, because his hour had not yet come. 31 Still, many in the crowd believed in him. They said, “When the Messiah comes, will he perform more signs than this man?”

32 The Pharisees heard the crowd whispering such things about him. Then the chief priests and the Pharisees sent temple guards to arrest him.

33 Jesus said, “I am with you for only a short time, and then I am going to the one who sent me. 34 You will look for me, but you will not find me; and where I am, you cannot come.”

35 They said to one another, “Where does this man intend to go that we cannot find him? Will he go where our people live scattered among the Greeks, and teach the Greeks? 36 What did he mean when he said, ‘You will look for me, but you will not find me,’ and ‘Where I am, you cannot come’?”

37 On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38 Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.”
You can discover for yourself who he is. That's what blows me away. We can prove, conclusively, whether or not HE IS, by taking him up on his offer. Pray. "GOD, JESUS, are you real? Show me!" How cool is that?
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #27 on: 02/04/2020 23:29:45 »
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-stephen-smith-on-effectiveness-of-hydroxychloroquine-with-coronavirus-symptoms-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-pandemic
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #28 on: 02/04/2020 23:32:37 »
I have tried to respond to requests for links, without success. More data is coming in. Very good researchers are confirming other studies which demonstrate the efficacy of the quinine based drugs to act prophylactically and to reduce symptoms.
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #29 on: 02/04/2020 23:47:18 »
I want to clarify something. In a post I wrote on the positive results researchers were getting on the quinine based drugs to combat this virus, I referred to one doctor using a word to describe his religious/ethnic/national background. I never do that, but in my excitement, I did it on this occasion. I did it because I believe people from the same "group" are the best researchers in the world. I don't see it, so perhaps it was blocked. I meant no ill will. Just the opposite, but will not do so again, in case it was inappropriate. I hate bullies. I have hated them my whole life, even as a little kid, and go out of my way to support anyone who is mistreated.
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #30 on: 02/04/2020 23:58:27 »
Because if you do not take the bible as a religious book, just a mish mash of foke lore and history its very relevant.

Dont marry your sister as you could get genetic problems

Thievery leads to social breakdown

Infidelity spreads VD

Pork is a two way street concerning viruses, especialy somewhere hot,

There was a tsunami in the red sea

Somesort of ancient flood happened

Egypt was one of the ancient civilisations.

There is wisdom to life quality

Etc
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #31 on: 03/04/2020 00:05:02 »
Quote from: duffyd on 02/04/2020 20:42:47
"And when the blood of your martyr Stephen was shed, I stood there giving my approval and guarding the clothes of those who were killing him."
Why? As his pals murdered Steve, Saul/Paul guarded their clothing. What? He was worried that these assassins, while stoning to death some guy, risked having their clothing stolen? They feared some idiots walking by would think, "My, what a perfect opportunity to snatch some new threads!" And, what were they doing killing somebody with their clothes off?
Quote from: duffyd on 02/04/2020 22:29:50
Dr. Stephen Smith reported that this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic. He pointed out that not a single COVID-19 patient of his that has been on the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin regimen for five days or more has had to be intubated. The odds that that is a coincidence are off the charts
Are you alligning dr stephen smith with the martyr stephen ? Are you stephen smith ?  Gin and tonic with a twist of lime,  kills the bugs dampens the inflamation, provides vitamin c. The raj
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #32 on: 03/04/2020 00:14:18 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 03/04/2020 00:05:02
Quote from: duffyd on 02/04/2020 20:42:47
"And when the blood of your martyr Stephen was shed, I stood there giving my approval and guarding the clothes of those who were killing him."
Why? As his pals murdered Steve, Saul/Paul guarded their clothing. What? He was worried that these assassins, while stoning to death some guy, risked having their clothing stolen? They feared some idiots walking by would think, "My, what a perfect opportunity to snatch some new threads!" And, what were they doing killing somebody with their clothes off?
Quote from: duffyd on 02/04/2020 22:29:50
Dr. Stephen Smith reported that this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic. He pointed out that not a single COVID-19 patient of his that has been on the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin regimen for five days or more has had to be intubated. The odds that that is a coincidence are off the charts
Are you alligning dr stephen smith with the martyr stephen ? Are you stephen smith ?  Gin and tonic with a twist of lime,  kills the bugs dampens the inflamation, provides vitamin c. The raj
I'm his barber. Quinine is where it's at.
What I would give to be able to encourage you to seek Him. Have you experienced the love of your children, your parents, a spouse? He loves us. I would to GOD you would find out for yourself if that is true. You will never be the same person if and when you realize deep down how He loves you.
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #33 on: 03/04/2020 00:19:27 »
I can assure you without hesitation or the slightest doubt, growing up I was the very last person those who knew me would predict would care about JESUS or anyone else for that matter.
« Last Edit: 03/04/2020 11:47:27 by duffyd »
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #34 on: 03/04/2020 01:16:37 »
INGRAHAM: "Dr. Smith, we’re going to have you back — it’s a game changer. Correct?"
SMITH: "It’s a game changer. Absolutely, game changer. I think these data go to really support the French data. Now you actually have comparison saying that this regimen works and I will get some real statisticians besides my sons to look at that."
INGRAHAM: "Dr. Smith, thank you for all the work. You and I and our medicine cabinet of folks in all your colleagues, thank you."
SMITH: "Laura, I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic. I’m very serious."
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #35 on: 03/04/2020 06:29:49 »
im having trouble working out what a corona doctor and some random bible passages have to do with the thread title.
should i start discussing the compression ratio of various diesel engines.? perhaps there a link to the trustworthiness of the bible there somehow?
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #36 on: 03/04/2020 06:54:22 »
Quote from: jfoldbar on 03/04/2020 06:29:49
im having trouble working out what a corona doctor and some random bible passages have to do with the thread title.
should i start discussing the compression ratio of various diesel engines.? perhaps there a link to the trustworthiness of the bible there somehow?
Well, me too. I haven't made sense since 1937. What can I say?
Actually, excellent topic. What do human suffering, hope and God have to do with each other? Everything. I would have shouted the great news about the progress scientists are making from the top of the Empire State Building if I could make it that far.
If I care, God cares, because if He didn't, I wouldn't. I'd be playing the piano in a whore house in The Big Easy, drinking port and stumbling to the john.
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #37 on: 03/04/2020 09:35:36 »
Quote from: duffyd on 03/04/2020 06:54:22
I'd be playing the piano in a whore house in The Big Easy, drinking port and stumbling to the john.
It's what I do for relaxation, but your god seems to have closed the whorehouses with COVID. Pity - they never had this much trouble with syphilis or any of His other creations. But you see I care about people, He doesn't.
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #38 on: 03/04/2020 12:14:48 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 03/04/2020 09:35:36
Quote from: duffyd on 03/04/2020 06:54:22
I'd be playing the piano in a whore house in The Big Easy, drinking port and stumbling to the john.
It's what I do for relaxation, but your god seems to have closed the whorehouses with COVID. Pity - they never had this much trouble with syphilis or any of His other creations. But you see I care about people, He doesn't.
You care about Him?
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Re: why would a scientist accept the bible
« Reply #39 on: 03/04/2020 17:41:17 »
Scientists are human and humans know when they are loved. You can know everything and not have a true friend. 
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