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Quote from: Petrochemicals on 06/04/2020 00:51:25From a humanitarian point, are you ok Duffy, should we contact the relevant authorities ? I mean your answering yourself.Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 23:24:05Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 01:28:05Quote from: Petrochemicals on 04/04/2020 20:59:42Dear god is this still going ?People ressurected by jesus - 0Years of living in plague filled misery since jesus 1600Separation of religion from law 400 years agoPeople saved from malaria by jesus 0People saved by science from malaria over 1 billionDont marry your sister !1. 0 resurrected by jesusCan you support that with credible evidence? ThanksNo. I know no one resurrected by christ, no one i know has heard of this. Its never made the news. Promises promises and no honouring of them. I cannot prove somethingincorrect that refuses to exist.Yea. If you don't mind. Hurry! I've got loonie tunes on here saying Christ doesn't take his own to heaven when they die. HurryBut, not as a humanitarian type thing. See if you can find an outfit that wants a fresh cadaver. I refuse to pay somebody to throw my carcass in an expensive hole someplace. Again, you're alright dude.
From a humanitarian point, are you ok Duffy, should we contact the relevant authorities ? I mean your answering yourself.Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 23:24:05Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 01:28:05Quote from: Petrochemicals on 04/04/2020 20:59:42Dear god is this still going ?People ressurected by jesus - 0Years of living in plague filled misery since jesus 1600Separation of religion from law 400 years agoPeople saved from malaria by jesus 0People saved by science from malaria over 1 billionDont marry your sister !1. 0 resurrected by jesusCan you support that with credible evidence? ThanksNo. I know no one resurrected by christ, no one i know has heard of this. Its never made the news. Promises promises and no honouring of them. I cannot prove somethingincorrect that refuses to exist.
Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 01:28:05Quote from: Petrochemicals on 04/04/2020 20:59:42Dear god is this still going ?People ressurected by jesus - 0Years of living in plague filled misery since jesus 1600Separation of religion from law 400 years agoPeople saved from malaria by jesus 0People saved by science from malaria over 1 billionDont marry your sister !1. 0 resurrected by jesusCan you support that with credible evidence? ThanksNo.
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 04/04/2020 20:59:42Dear god is this still going ?People ressurected by jesus - 0Years of living in plague filled misery since jesus 1600Separation of religion from law 400 years agoPeople saved from malaria by jesus 0People saved by science from malaria over 1 billionDont marry your sister !1. 0 resurrected by jesusCan you support that with credible evidence? Thanks
Dear god is this still going ?People ressurected by jesus - 0Years of living in plague filled misery since jesus 1600Separation of religion from law 400 years agoPeople saved from malaria by jesus 0People saved by science from malaria over 1 billionDont marry your sister !
Quote from: duffyd on 06/04/2020 01:04:33Quote from: Petrochemicals on 06/04/2020 00:51:25From a humanitarian point, are you ok Duffy, should we contact the relevant authorities ? I mean your answering yourself.Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 23:24:05Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 01:28:05Quote from: Petrochemicals on 04/04/2020 20:59:42Dear god is this still going ?People ressurected by jesus - 0Years of living in plague filled misery since jesus 1600Separation of religion from law 400 years agoPeople saved from malaria by jesus 0People saved by science from malaria over 1 billionDont marry your sister !1. 0 resurrected by jesusCan you support that with credible evidence? ThanksNo. I know no one resurrected by christ, no one i know has heard of this. Its never made the news. Promises promises and no honouring of them. I cannot prove somethingincorrect that refuses to exist.Yea. If you don't mind. Hurry! I've got loonie tunes on here saying Christ doesn't take his own to heaven when they die. HurryBut, not as a humanitarian type thing. See if you can find an outfit that wants a fresh cadaver. I refuse to pay somebody to throw my carcass in an expensive hole someplace. Again, you're alright dude. What is heaven, do the people walk round on monkey legs, eating nuts, and breathing into there lungs, only the christians, only the protestants, only the lutherans, only the male lutherans from the such and such vein..........Again, I think positivity, projection self service and emplacement, dude.
Your death is around the corner and death is pretty final.
Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 23:31:45Your death is around the corner and death is pretty final.Thankfully.
To just give Him a shot. It is so simple and so profound.
It's a ramshackle collection of historical fact swimming in myth and magic, with a few good ideas for survival in a desert (Leviticus) and an urban society (Mark). A sound basis for workers' rights ("six days shalt thou labor…" "the laborer is worthy of his hire....") and some general commandments that underpin most criminal and civil law. But it doesn't provide any excuse for tithes, pogroms, crusades, inquisitions, self-flagellation, paedophilia, shunning, pilgrimage...… or any evidence for the supernatural or an afterlife, and the reification of the adjectives "good" and "evil" is an insult to the human intellect.
A fundamentalist rabbi crucified for annoying the Romans and the established clergy? Quite likely (we are an argumentative tribe).
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 06/04/2020 01:42:12Quote from: duffyd on 06/04/2020 01:04:33Quote from: Petrochemicals on 06/04/2020 00:51:25From a humanitarian point, are you ok Duffy, should we contact the relevant authorities ? I mean your answering yourself.Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 23:24:05Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 01:28:05Quote from: Petrochemicals on 04/04/2020 20:59:42Dear god is this still going ?People ressurected by jesus - 0Years of living in plague filled misery since jesus 1600Separation of religion from law 400 years agoPeople saved from malaria by jesus 0People saved by science from malaria over 1 billionDont marry your sister !1. 0 resurrected by jesusCan you support that with credible evidence? ThanksNo. I know no one resurrected by christ, no one i know has heard of this. Its never made the news. Promises promises and no honouring of them. I cannot prove somethingincorrect that refuses to exist.Yea. If you don't mind. Hurry! I've got loonie tunes on here saying Christ doesn't take his own to heaven when they die. HurryBut, not as a humanitarian type thing. See if you can find an outfit that wants a fresh cadaver. I refuse to pay somebody to throw my carcass in an expensive hole someplace. Again, you're alright dude. What is heaven, do the people walk round on monkey legs, eating nuts, and breathing into there lungs, only the christians, only the protestants, only the lutherans, only the male lutherans from the such and such vein..........Again, I think positivity, projection self service and emplacement, dude.Well, look, you don't have to be all snooty about it. I'm convinced a couple Methodists, maybe an Assembly of God or two, at least 5 Nazarenes and, believe it or not Mom Teresa and one or two other Catholics may show up. Now, did you call anybody yet? I'm dying here man. Let's go! Oh, BTW, do you want me to call anyone on your behalf? You seem a little you know a little half-cracked yourself. Happy Fesiivus Everybody!! Now, come on Georgie and wrestle your father, Georgie, until you pin meNo Frank. Leave him alone!
GOD!! Help me to help others
Quote from: duffyd on 06/04/2020 05:34:40GOD!! Help me to help othersYou would find it more effective if you were to study something useful like nursing or civil engineering, then help others without invoking a fairy who doesn't seem particularly interested in relieving human suffering. And if you read your own reply #106 with understanding instead of pointless anger, you will see that far from disagreeing with me, you have simply restated my summary in rather more words than necessary.
How did they come up with this material?“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”Can you find comparable speeches anywhere that were composed before this was written for the N.T.?
Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 01:42:38How did they come up with this material?“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”Can you find comparable speeches anywhere that were composed before this was written for the N.T.?As you can see, they couldn't address good arguments. Given their level of education and intelligence, I thought they would have had a few sophisticated, powerful arguments under their belts. It's getting too easy. I enjoy a really thought provoking, stimulating, hard fought debate. Sweet little Jesus boy, Made you be born in a mangerSweet little holy child, We didn’t know who you wasDidn’t know you’d come to save us LordTo take our sins away, Our eyes was blindWe could not see, We didn’t know who you wereThe world treat You mean, LordTreat me mean tooBut that's how things is down hereLook how we treated youYou done showd us howWe is a tryingMaster you don showd us how,Even when yous diedJust seem like we can’t do rightLook how we treated you,But please sir forgive us LordWe didn’t know who you wasSweet little Jesus boy, born long time agoSweet little holy childWe didn’t know it was you
Quote from: duffyd on 04/04/2020 12:52:26is my "knowing" that individualthe thing with jesus, (or anything else in the bible) is you dont 'know' they exist, you 'believe' they exist. they are 2 different things
is my "knowing" that individual
Quote from: duffyd on 04/04/2020 21:29:36That is a perfectly legitimate conclusion for you. You don't need to make any further inquiries.true, i no longer enquire whether the bible is true or not. i accept the fact that its not. just like i accept that 1+1=2, regardless how i feel about it. the thing that i still enquire about though is why others ignore the fact(s) and still choose the 'believe' option. do those people also choose the 'believe' option with 1+1?what i mean is, for someone to believe the bible that means he is a basic ignorer of facts. does he also ignore other facts in his life? does he ignore the car speedo while driving, does he ignore the ingredients of a food, does he ignore his bank balance figure while shopping? this is the stuff that boggles my mind.
That is a perfectly legitimate conclusion for you. You don't need to make any further inquiries.
Quote from: jfoldbar on 04/04/2020 21:54:11Quote from: duffyd on 04/04/2020 21:29:36That is a perfectly legitimate conclusion for you. You don't need to make any further inquiries.true, i no longer enquire whether the bible is true or not. i accept the fact that its not. just like i accept that 1+1=2, regardless how i feel about it. the thing that i still enquire about though is why others ignore the fact(s) and still choose the 'believe' option. do those people also choose the 'believe' option with 1+1?what i mean is, for someone to believe the bible that means he is a basic ignorer of facts. does he also ignore other facts in his life? does he ignore the car speedo while driving, does he ignore the ingredients of a food, does he ignore his bank balance figure while shopping? this is the stuff that boggles my mind.What are the possible answers? 1. Yes, everyone who believes the bible is accurate is a moron.2. Those who believe it is accurate ignore facts. A. He ignores all facts orB. He only ignores facts as they pertain to the bible.3. He studies the bible and legitimately understands it is an accurate account of GOD's interaction with people .
yet it is inconceivable that GOD separated some water in a river
Quote from: duffyd on 06/04/2020 05:34:40To just give Him a shot. It is so simple and so profound.And absurd.You don't "choose" to believe something.You can't choose to believe that I'm six foot six.Either you believe it or you don't.