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Quote from: alancalverd on 01/04/2020 09:32:38It's a ramshackle collection of historical fact swimming in myth and magic, with a few good ideas for survival in a desert (Leviticus) and an urban society (Mark). A sound basis for workers' rights ("six days shalt thou labor " "the laborer is worthy of his hire....") and some general commandments that underpin most criminal and civil law. But it doesn't provide any excuse for tithes, pogroms, crusades, inquisitions, self-flagellation, paedophilia, shunning, pilgrimage... or any evidence for the supernatural or an afterlife, and the reification of the adjectives "good" and "evil" is an insult to the human intellect.Would you be willing to support each of your claims here? Start with "ramshackle collection of historical fact swimming in myth and magic..." if you can. If you decide to go ahead and defend your positions, it will require a significant amount of time. One or two liners won't work.
It's a ramshackle collection of historical fact swimming in myth and magic, with a few good ideas for survival in a desert (Leviticus) and an urban society (Mark). A sound basis for workers' rights ("six days shalt thou labor " "the laborer is worthy of his hire....") and some general commandments that underpin most criminal and civil law. But it doesn't provide any excuse for tithes, pogroms, crusades, inquisitions, self-flagellation, paedophilia, shunning, pilgrimage... or any evidence for the supernatural or an afterlife, and the reification of the adjectives "good" and "evil" is an insult to the human intellect.
Quote from: duffyd on 04/04/2020 21:29:36That is a perfectly legitimate conclusion for you. You don't need to make any further inquiries.true, i no longer enquire whether the bible is true or not. i accept the fact that its not. just like i accept that 1+1=2, regardless how i feel about it. the thing that i still enquire about though is why others ignore the fact(s) and still choose the 'believe' option. do those people also choose the 'believe' option with 1+1?what i mean is, for someone to believe the bible that means he is a basic ignorer of facts. does he also ignore other facts in his life? does he ignore the car speedo while driving, does he ignore the ingredients of a food, does he ignore his bank balance figure while shopping? this is the stuff that boggles my mind.
That is a perfectly legitimate conclusion for you. You don't need to make any further inquiries.
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Duffy, dear, I think you will find the parting of the waters in the OT, not the NT. And the quote only had resonance with its audience because it was foretold by the OT prophets.
Quote from: duffyd on 06/04/2020 02:39:22Quote from: Petrochemicals on 06/04/2020 01:42:12Quote from: duffyd on 06/04/2020 01:04:33Quote from: Petrochemicals link=topic=79132.msg598720#msg598720 Again, I think positivity, projection self service and emplacement, dude.[/quoteWell, look, you don't have to be all snooty about it. I'm convinced a couple Methodists, maybe an Assembly of God or two, at least 5 Nazarenes and, believe it or not Mom Teresa and one or two other Catholics may show up. Now, did you call anybody yet? I'm dying here man. Let's go! Oh, BTW, do you want me to call anyone on your behalf? You seem a little you know a little half-cracked yourself. Happy Fesiivus Everybody!! Now, come on Georgie and wrestle your father, Georgie, until you pin meNo Frank. Leave him alone!Well diversion feigned misunderstanding, social distancing, frivoloty, flipancy, ad nauseum.Call a psychiatrist, please, for me, please do.For reasons of repetitive antagonism, this user is currently not responding to messages from;BoredChemist
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 06/04/2020 01:42:12Quote from: duffyd on 06/04/2020 01:04:33Quote from: Petrochemicals link=topic=79132.msg598720#msg598720 Again, I think positivity, projection self service and emplacement, dude.[/quoteWell, look, you don't have to be all snooty about it. I'm convinced a couple Methodists, maybe an Assembly of God or two, at least 5 Nazarenes and, believe it or not Mom Teresa and one or two other Catholics may show up. Now, did you call anybody yet? I'm dying here man. Let's go! Oh, BTW, do you want me to call anyone on your behalf? You seem a little you know a little half-cracked yourself. Happy Fesiivus Everybody!! Now, come on Georgie and wrestle your father, Georgie, until you pin meNo Frank. Leave him alone!Well diversion feigned misunderstanding, social distancing, frivoloty, flipancy, ad nauseum.Call a psychiatrist, please, for me, please do.For reasons of repetitive antagonism, this user is currently not responding to messages from;BoredChemist
Quote from: duffyd on 06/04/2020 01:04:33Quote from: Petrochemicals link=topic=79132.msg598720#msg598720 Again, I think positivity, projection self service and emplacement, dude.[/quoteWell, look, you don't have to be all snooty about it. I'm convinced a couple Methodists, maybe an Assembly of God or two, at least 5 Nazarenes and, believe it or not Mom Teresa and one or two other Catholics may show up. Now, did you call anybody yet? I'm dying here man. Let's go! Oh, BTW, do you want me to call anyone on your behalf? You seem a little you know a little half-cracked yourself. Happy Fesiivus Everybody!! Now, come on Georgie and wrestle your father, Georgie, until you pin meNo Frank. Leave him alone!Well diversion feigned misunderstanding, social distancing, frivoloty, flipancy, ad nauseum.Call a psychiatrist, please, for me, please do.For reasons of repetitive antagonism, this user is currently not responding to messages from;BoredChemist
Quote from: Petrochemicals link=topic=79132.msg598720#msg598720 Again, I think positivity, projection self service and emplacement, dude.[/quoteWell, look, you don't have to be all snooty about it. I'm convinced a couple Methodists, maybe an Assembly of God or two, at least 5 Nazarenes and, believe it or not Mom Teresa and one or two other Catholics may show up. Now, did you call anybody yet? I'm dying here man. Let's go! Oh, BTW, do you want me to call anyone on your behalf? You seem a little you know a little half-cracked yourself. Happy Fesiivus Everybody!! Now, come on Georgie and wrestle your father, Georgie, until you pin meNo Frank. Leave him alone!Well diversion feigned misunderstanding, social distancing, frivoloty, flipancy, ad nauseum.Call a psychiatrist, please, for me, please do.
Well, look, you don't have to be all snooty about it. I'm convinced a couple Methodists, maybe an Assembly of God or two, at least 5 Nazarenes and, believe it or not Mom Teresa and one or two other Catholics may show up. Now, did you call anybody yet? I'm dying here man. Let's go! Oh, BTW, do you want me to call anyone on your behalf? You seem a little you know a little half-cracked yourself. Happy Fesiivus Everybody!! Now, come on Georgie and wrestle your father, Georgie, until you pin meNo Frank. Leave him alone!
Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 01:42:38How did they come up with this material?“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”Can you find comparable speeches anywhere that were composed before this was written for the N.T.?Funny. Nothing. Why? Because the account is so extraordinary and unique no one could conceive of the things he said and did.Let's bear in mind, the simple-minded believe we live in the universe and in the MW galaxy and a solar system in which a thermonuclear reactor hangs in freezing cold blackness millions of miles from a blue speck where living beasts possess a flesh and blood sponge that calculates how to send tons of inanimate pieces of tin a million miles away to observe that reactor churn and burn 600,000,000 million tons of hydrogen every second, yet it is inconceivable that GOD separated some water in a river
How did they come up with this material?“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”Can you find comparable speeches anywhere that were composed before this was written for the N.T.?
Quote from: duffyd on 07/04/2020 03:48:59For reasons of repetitive antagonism, this user is currently not responding to messages from;BoredChemistFor reasons of repetitive antagonism, this user is currently not responding to messages from;BoredChemistThis is my favorite verse in the good book
Christendom will never recover
Quote from: duffyd on 07/04/2020 17:24:14Quote from: duffyd on 07/04/2020 03:48:59For reasons of repetitive antagonism, this user is currently not responding to messages from;BoredChemistFor reasons of repetitive antagonism, this user is currently not responding to messages from;BoredChemistThis is my favorite verse in the good bookDo you remember signing up to the rules?In particular, this one."The site is not for evangelising your own pet theory. It is perfectly acceptable that you should post your own theory up for discussion, but if all you want to do is promote your own idea and are not inviting critical debate about it, then that will not be acceptable."Your refusal to engage in debate is a breach of the rules.
I have copied every page with your attacks.
You have zero interest in debate.
Quote from: duffyd on 07/04/2020 17:48:52Christendom will never recoverFor which, many thanks. The world is still recovering from Christendom. It's sad, because Jesus seems to have been a really nice guy with some good ideas, but the appalling things that have been done "in his name " and the wordy drivel that accompanies them, would make him shudder.
Quote from: duffyd on 07/04/2020 21:50:07You have zero interest in debate.Well, that's simple then.If you respond, that would make it a debate and, according to your viewpoint, I'd lose interest.Feel free to try it.